oil filter every other change?

[w261w261]

Let me apologize in advance for not wading through prob 500 posts having to do with oil, filters, etc.....but as I washed off my arm after I managed to run warm oil down it, it occurred to me that I could probably change the filter every other time. I'm pretty religious about doing the oil at 3-4k, which I'm thinking is not really needed, but which makes me feel better. I wouldn't call my service "severe," meaning every time I drive the car it's for at least 20 miles and usually more. I use a premium filter (NAPA gold or equivalent).

I know this is very subjective, but what do you guys think?

[1813mdw]

Let me apologize in advance for not wading through prob 500 posts having to do with oil, filters, etc.....but as I washed off my arm after I managed to run warm oil down it, it occurred to me that I could probably change the filter every other time. I'm pretty religious about doing the oil at 3-4k, which I'm thinking is not really needed, but which makes me feel better. I wouldn't call my service "severe," meaning every time I drive the car it's for at least 20 miles and usually more. I use a premium filter (NAPA gold or equivalent).

I know this is very subjective, but what do you guys think?

try it once and see how dirty your oil is afterwards. if using a good synthetic w/ lots of detergents i don't really see this being a prob. you might also want to buy a magnetic drain plug to compare the amount of shavings between different filter change intervals. the filter will allow flow if it gets "clogged" but will no longer filter you're oil. when using synthetics most people go about 7000-7500 miles on the same oil and filter, so 6000-8000 is pretty much in that window. if still using dino oil i would def change the filter every time just because of the sludge that accumulates.

[lostforawhile]

why wouldn't you want to spend the few extra bucks and change the filter? the filters are designed to last an average oil change interval, plus all that dirty oil still in there added to your clean oil.

[Dr_Snooz]

It's really your call. Oil changes every 3k have always seemed excessive to me. Depends on the oil you use though. Seriously though, it's your car. You've had it long enough that you know it very well. Whatever you choose to do is probably going to be fine.

[w261w261]

why wouldn't you want to spend the few extra bucks and change the filter? the filters are designed to last an average oil change interval, plus all that dirty oil still in there added to your clean oil.

Money is not the object. It's the oil running down my arm part. I'm thinking that with my interval, the filter should be np at 6k. Maybe I'll go to the oil site. Thx

[Dr_Snooz]

It's the oil running down my arm part.

Use your other arm?

[dieselgus]

Put on a remote filter kit to get it out from under the intake to somewhere easily accesable and non spill?

Tip of the day- Break the seal on the filter, take a bread bag, medium ziplock, etc. put it around the filter (as in filter in the bag) and then unscrew it. If you do it right the oil ends up in the bag and not in your armpit.

The one thing I really do miss from the VW TDI motors is the cartridge style drop in oil filter that is right on the front of the motor. Unscrew the cap, pull old filter straight up and out, drop in new, screw cap back on. Super simple and easy.

[rocketman]

I have my '89 since August 1989 . . . bought it new. I have changed the oil and filter every 3000 since then (now it's almost 525,000 miles) and never had this problem. I reach back behind the engine (between the firewall and engine), break the filter loose with a filter wrench, spin it off a little bit, let it drain a little . . . as long as it takes for me to get the oil pan plug off and open the filler hole, and let it drain . . . maybe 10 minutes. By that time there is very little oil running out of the filter, never enough for me to notice it. In fact . . . I barely have enough to lube the gasket on the new filter. Don't skip the oil filter, just do it another (my) way. My whole oil change might take me 1/2 hour, cost me under $15, filter included. Seems to work too . . . lots of miles on my Accord, still runs GREAT! Rocketman

[rocketman]

It just occurred to me that you probably mean that you change your filter from the bottom . You can reach it from the top . . . passenger side, just reach behind the engine. Rocketman

[anaccordman]

Some people think if you do not change the filter every time----the filter holes get smaller after the first change (and it is able to filter smaller particles). I dunno.

Does that makes sense to anyone?

[rocketman]

This reminds me of a friend of mine in college . . . he had a VW Rabbit . . . used synthetic oil and a premium filter . . . changed the filter every 2500 miles, changed the oil and filter every 10,000 miles. He had to top off the oil whenever he changed the filter. His reasoning was that the synthetic lasted longer (and was more expensive) and that filtration was the key. He drove that VW forever, never had a oil related breakdown. Rocketman

[YK86]

Some people think if you do not change the filter every time----the filter holes get smaller after the first change (and it is able to filter smaller particles). I dunno.

Does that makes sense to anyone?


Kinda sounds like what K&N says about their filter (the trapped particles help to filter even more particles). I don't know if this applies to oil filters. At what point does it go from "helping to filter particles" to "too clogged to prevent proper oil flow"?


This reminds me of a friend of mine in college . . . he had a VW Rabbit . . . used synthetic oil and a premium filter . . . changed the filter every 2500 miles, changed the oil and filter every 10,000 miles. He had to top off the oil whenever he changed the filter. His reasoning was that the synthetic lasted longer (and was more expensive) and that filtration was the key. He drove that VW forever, never had a oil related breakdown. Rocketman

This kind of makes sense. There are people that run 10-15K between between oil and filter changes using premium synthetic oil. Unheard of for someone like me that does 3K oil changes using dino oil but their used oil analysis comes back with great results so it works for them.


And to the OP, if oil running down your arm is the only reason you don't want to change the filter every time, I think you just need to change the way you do it. I usually spin it til oil starts pouring out and just let it all drain before removing it completely. The only time I had a problem was when I was doing an oil change outside since my garage was full and it was a windy day. Did the usual crack open the filter and let it pour down the block BUT a nice sudden gust of wind sprayed it all over my hair and face while some of it also go into my eye :lol: I would rather take oil down the arm than have that happen again.

[anubis_4_99]

i've never done my filters every oil change. it just seems excessive to me.

i change my oil every 4.5k or so, and do my filter every other change.

never had any problems with any of my vehicles related to oil

[DBMaster]

I change it every time, but then I use synthetic oil and only change every 10,000 miles. Much earlier in the car's life I was still stuck in that 3,000 mile OCI mindset so I used to change the filer in the middle (at 5K) and add a pint of new oil. Now, I just buy a decent filter and run the whole mess 10K. Almost everything you read on forums related to oil and filters seems sort of fanatical to me.

[frantik]

pretty sure the car's manual says to change the oil every 6000 miles or so.. but as lost says the filter itself holds oil so i would change it when changing the oil

unless you are in rough conditions or have some other reason to change the oil often i think 3000 miles is overkill.. it's just marketing from jiffylube and the like

there are way too many high mileage 3geez on the road for it to make a big difference is probably the bottom line.. so do whatever makes you happy lol

[forrest89sei]

When I had my 3G I'd run 10W30 Castrol GTX High Mileage and a K&N Filter, Depending on if I was doing alot of Stop and Go or Highway Miles I'd change my oil every 5K-7.5K As the owners manual States.

With my 2006 CR-V The Severe Service is 5K on the oil and filter and The Normal is 10K on the oil and filter, I have been running Synthetic since about 15K on the car, I figure I'd rather pay a little extra for Full synthetic and a quality oil filter, then have issues down the road... Also going to Synthetic I gained about 2 MPG, Tomorrow it's getting changed with Mobil 1 0W20 and a Mobil 1 Filter :cool:

[lostforawhile]

When I had my 3G I'd run 10W30 Castrol GTX High Mileage and a K&N Filter, Depending on if I was doing alot of Stop and Go or Highway Miles I'd change my oil every 5K-7.5K As the owners manual States.

With my 2006 CR-V The Severe Service is 5K on the oil and filter and The Normal is 10K on the oil and filter, I have been running Synthetic since about 15K on the car, I figure I'd rather pay a little extra for Full synthetic and a quality oil filter, then have issues down the road... Also going to Synthetic I gained about 2 MPG, Tomorrow it's getting changed with Mobil 1 0W20 and a Mobil 1 Filter :cool:

you have to watch those K&N filters, they let more dirt through by design, they are designed for race applications, so the extra dirt isn't going to hurt an engine torn down all the time, a lot of people don't know that, same with the air filters, nothing wrong with them in the proper application, but they are not designed with engine longevity in mind

[forrest89sei]

you have to watch those K&N filters, they let more dirt through by design, they are designed for race applications, so the extra dirt isn't going to hurt an engine torn down all the time, a lot of people don't know that, same with the air filters, nothing wrong with them in the proper application, but they are not designed with engine longevity in mind

Well Now I Run the Mobil 1 Extended Filters, there EXACTLY the same filter as the K&N except it doesn't have the nut on the end of the filter, Bobtheoilguy shows proof if it.

After seeing the reports of 2002-2004 CRV's catching fire with the OEM Honda filters I'll spend the $11.99 for a better quality filter :D

[lostforawhile]

Well Now I Run the Mobil 1 Extended Filters, there EXACTLY the same filter as the K&N except it doesn't have the nut on the end of the filter, Bobtheoilguy shows proof if it.

After seeing the reports of 2002-2004 CRV's catching fire with the OEM Honda filters I'll spend the $11.99 for a better quality filter :D

why spend all that extra money, just get the wix? they've been shown to be one of the best filters over and over, Wix and nappa gold are the same thing, it will save you a few dollars, and you'll get a really good filter, I won't run anything else, I need to get a fram and cut it open,I have a wix for the civic I won't ever use, so I'll cut it open

[Dr_Snooz]

why spend all that extra money, just get the wix? they've been shown to be one of the best filters over and over, Wix and nappa gold are the same thing, it will save you a few dollars, and you'll get a really good filter, I won't run anything else, I need to get a fram and cut it open,I have a wix for the civic I won't ever use, so I'll cut it open

Just grab some of the pics online. There's all kinds.

[lostforawhile]

Just grab some of the pics online. There's all kinds.

well I wanted to cut one open myself, that civic one will never be used,since the car is gone, so I'll cut it up and keep it in my toolbox if anyone asks

[MessyHonda]

i done it once but later picked up a napa gold filter

[YK86]

well I wanted to cut one open myself, that civic one will never be used,since the car is gone, so I'll cut it up and keep it in my toolbox if anyone asks

Aren't the Civic filters the same as the Accords (or any other 80's and 90's Honda/Acura)?

[lostforawhile]

Aren't the Civic filters the same as the Accords (or any other 80's and 90's Honda/Acura)?

no this one is different, i checked, i have a one quart remote filter anyway

[forrest89sei]

Aren't the Civic filters the same as the Accords (or any other 80's and 90's Honda/Acura)?

Yes

The PH3593A As found on a 1998 Civic is Also used on the following:

ACURA (1988 - 2005)
Acura106 vehicles
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L4 - 1.6L 1590cc type D16A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
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L5 - 2.5L 2451cc type G25A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
3 vehicles1992 - 1994Vigor LS
L5 - 2.5L 2451cc type G25A1 - MFI GAS SOHC

[forrest89sei]

Aren't the Civic filters the same as the Accords (or any other 80's and 90's Honda/Acura)?

Yes

And :
HONDA (1983 - 2002)
Accord
L4 - 1.8L 1829cc type ES2 - GAS O.H.C.- SOHC
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L4 - 1.8L 1829cc - 3BBL GAS SOHC
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L4 - 1.8L 1829cc - MFI GAS SOHC
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L4 - 1.8L 1829cc - 3BBL GAS SOHC
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L4 - 2.2L 2156cc - GAS O.H.C.- SOHC
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L4 - 2.0L 1955cc type A20A1 - 2BBL GAS SOHC
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L4 - 2.2L 2156cc type F22A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
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L4 - 1.6L 1590cc type D16Y8 - MFI GAS SOHC
4 vehicles1992 - 1995Civic SI
L4 - 1.6L 1590cc type D16Z6 - MFI GAS SOHC
2 vehicles1999 - 2000Civic SI
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1 vehicles1999Civic Value Package
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1 vehicles2002Odyssey Cargo
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1 vehicles2002Odyssey LX
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L4 - 2.6L 2559cc type 4ZE1 - MFI GAS SOHC
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V6 - 3.2L 3165cc type 6VD1 - MFI GAS DOHC
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L4 - 1.8L 1829cc - 2x1BBL GAS SOHC
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L4 - 1.8L 1829cc type A18A1 - 2x1BBL GAS SOHC
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L4 - 1.8L 1829cc type ET2 - 2x1BBL GAS SOHC
5 vehicles1997 - 2001Prelude
L4 - 2.2L 2156cc type H22A4 - MFI GAS DOHC
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L4 - 2.0L 1958cc - 2BBL GAS SOHC
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L4 - 2.0L 1958cc type B20A5 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles1993 - 1994Prelude 4WS
L4 - 2.3L 2259cc - MFI GAS DOHC
5 vehicles1992 - 1996Prelude S
L4 - 2.2L 2156cc type F22A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
1 vehicles1991Prelude SE
L4 - 2.0L 1958cc - GAS O.H.C.- DOHC
1 vehicles1995Prelude SE
L4 - 2.3L 2259cc type H23A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
5 vehicles1997 - 2001Prelude SH
L4 - 2.2L 2156cc type H22A4 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles1990 - 1991Prelude SI
L4 - 2.1L 2056cc type B21A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
5 vehicles1992 - 1996Prelude SI
L4 - 2.3L 2259cc type H23A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles1990 - 1991Prelude SI 4WS
L4 - 2.1L 2056cc type B21A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
1 vehicles1992Prelude SI 4WS
L4 - 2.3L 2259cc type H23A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles1990 - 1991Prelude SI ALB
L4 - 2.1L 2056cc type B21A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
1 vehicles1990Prelude SR
L4 - 2.0L 1958cc - GAS O.H.C.- DOHC
4 vehicles1993 - 1996Prelude VTEC
L4 - 2.2L 2156cc type H22A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
3 vehicles2000 - 2002S2000
L4 - 2.0L 1997cc type F20C1 - MFI GAS DOHC

And many more :D http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/FRA1/PH3593A.oap?year=1998&make=Honda&model=Civic&vi=1315643&pt=C0289&ppt=C0023

[lostforawhile]

The PH3593A As found on a 1998 Civic is Also used on the following:

ACURA (1988 - 2005)
Acura106 vehicles
1 vehicles1997CL
L4 - 2.2L 2156cc type F22B1 - MFI GAS SOHC
2 vehicles1998 - 1999CL
L4 - 2.3L 2254cc type F23A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
3 vehicles1997 - 1999CL
V6 - 3.0L 2997cc type J30A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
3 vehicles2001 - 2003CL
V6 - 3.2L 3210cc type J32A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
3 vehicles2001 - 2003CL S
V6 - 3.2L 3210cc type J32A2 - MFI GAS SOHC
4 vehicles1997 - 2000EL
L4 - 1.6L 97ci 1590cc type D16Y8 - GAS
3 vehicles2001 - 2003EL
L4 - 1.7L 1668cc - GAS
4 vehicles1990 - 1993Integra GS
L4 - 1.8L 1834cc type B18A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
5 vehicles1997 - 2001Integra GS
L4 - 1.8L 1834cc type B18B1 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles1992 - 1993Integra GSR
L4 - 1.7L 1678cc type B17A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
8 vehicles1994 - 2001Integra GSR
L4 - 1.8L 1797cc type B18C1 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles1988 - 1989Integra LS
L4 - 1.6L 1590cc type D16A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
4 vehicles1990 - 1993Integra LS
L4 - 1.8L 1834cc type B18A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
8 vehicles1994 - 2001Integra LS
L4 - 1.8L 1834cc type B18B1 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles1988 - 1989Integra RS
L4 - 1.6L 1590cc type D16A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
4 vehicles1990 - 1993Integra RS
L4 - 1.8L 1834cc type B18A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
5 vehicles1994 - 1998Integra RS
L4 - 1.8L 1834cc type B18B1 - MFI GAS DOHC
1 vehicles1988Integra SE
L4 - 1.6L 1590cc type D16A1 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles1995 - 1996Integra Special Edition
L4 - 1.8L 1834cc type B18B1 - MFI GAS DOHC
1 vehicles1999Integra Type R
L4 - 1.8L 1797cc type B18C5 - MFI GAS DOHC
4 vehicles1997 - 2001*Integra Type-R
L4 - 1.8L 1797cc type B18C5 - MFI GAS DOHC
2 vehicles2001 - 2002MDX
V6 - 3.5L 3471cc type J35A3 - MFI GAS SOHC
2 vehicles2001 - 2002MDX Touring
V6 - 3.5L 3471cc type J35A3 - MFI GAS SOHC
1 vehicles2002NSX
V6 - 3.2L 3179cc type C32B1 - MFI GAS DOHC
1 vehicles2005RL
V6 - 3.5L 3471cc type J35A8 - MFI GAS SOHC
9 vehicles1996 - 2004RL
V6 - 3.5L 3475cc type C35A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
2 vehicles1996 - 1997SLX
V6 - 3.2L vin V 3165cc type 6VD1 - MFI GAS SOHC
2 vehicles1998 - 1999SLX
V6 - 3.5L vin X 3494cc type 6VE1 - MFI GAS DOHC
4 vehicles1995 - 1998TL
L5 - 2.5L 2451cc type G25A4 - MFI GAS SOHC
5 vehicles1999 - 2003TL
V6 - 3.2L 3210cc type J32A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
1 vehicles2002TL S
V6 - 3.2L 3210cc type J32A2 - MFI GAS SOHC
3 vehicles1992 - 1994Vigor GS
L5 - 2.5L 2451cc type G25A1 - MFI GAS SOHC
3 vehicles1992 - 1994Vigor LS
L5 - 2.5L 2451cc type G25A1 - MFI GAS SOHC

if someone wants it, I can throw it in a flat rate box for shipping, wouldn't be much, probably a couple of dollars, I think the filter was 7-8 bucks, it's a wix,

[YK86]

I kind of thought so. I do oil changes on so many different Honda/Acuras and as far as I knew, there were only 2 main kinds that I kept on the shelf plus 1 less used one that I don't think I've ever had to buy. One standard size (PH3593A) and the smaller diameter but slightly taller one (PH7313). NSX, some Legends and TL's used a PH8212.

While we're on this topic, I heard the 7313 is used on most of the newer Hondas and by design, raises the oil pressure a bit (or allows for a high oil pressure) and can be used on the cars using the 3593 but not the other way around. Anyone know if this is true?