A18A's 1988 Vigor 2.0MXL

[A18A]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1428/img1936medium.jpg
moar pics tomorrow :)

[forrest89sei]

Yay!!!!!

[charliekuney]

Same color?

[AccordB20A]

its tomorrow

[A18A]

i didnt get any decent pics of the car, i did sand back this rust though. i'll weld it tomorrow. check dat orange peel
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5577/img1937medium.jpg
a crack in the windscreen
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/152/img1940medium.jpg
no crack in the windscreen
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8746/img1941medium.jpg

passed a wof today so so i can start modifying now lol :)

[Hazwan]

They arr rook the same ><

[AccordB20A]

lol i have a oil service sticker over my wof failure worthey stone chip.

[Pico]

Woot

[Hazwan]

I see cujo 2.0

[A18A]

hahaha didnt even knowtice her before!

[A18A]

here's some actual photos of the car
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/5858/img1943medium.jpg
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/8823/img1952medium.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9020/img1963medium.jpg
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http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/8373/img1968medium.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/521/img1969medium.jpg
yet another a20 in nz proving they never come with a full set of matching leads
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/180/img1942mediumv.jpg

[A18A]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3419/img1944medium.jpg
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http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4813/img1950medium.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4548/img1951medium.jpg

[A18A]

a few things that require installing
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4753/img1953medium.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4897/img1954medium.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3081/img1955medium.jpg
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http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/5747/img1725medium.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4581/img1728medium.jpg

[forrest89sei]

Can't wait to see what you do with it!

[87roach]

The F1 stuff is soooo soo nice man, damn lucky guy.

[HON-DUH]

Where did you get the F1 stuff?

Looks awesome! :)

[A18A]

thank you :) i got them off trademe, expensive stuff too!!

update time. i have temporarily installed a accord ass while i panelbeat the prefacelift vigor boot lid I'm going to install. I also installed a towbar and some superstage mudflaps
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7031/img1970medium.jpg
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/5748/img1971medium.jpg
typical rust spot
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4791/img1972medium.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/951/img1973medium.jpg
no more d1-spec rear bumper!
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7700/img1974medium.jpg
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2839/img1975medium.jpg
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/4526/img1976medium.jpg
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6602/img1977medium.jpg

[ShyBoyCA6]

Buttsecks!!! I want the Vigor trunk lid :D!

[forrest89sei]

You should install a 85-86 Vigor Center, I like the preface lift sooo much better :D

[DJAJ]

Nice :)

[A18A]

back to work, I took out the ugly red rear tray thing with shitty speakers and put my grey tray in with pioneer 6x9s. much better
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8831/img1983medium.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9639/img1993medium.jpg
disassemble interior, acquire currency
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4056/img1990medium.jpg
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7697/img1991medium.jpg
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2951/img1992medium.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3170/img1994medium.jpg
cujo2
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2483/img1988medium.jpg
someones amateureness
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5086/img1989medium.jpg

can't really start the major work till the garage is empty grrrrr

[MessyHonda]

haha...look at that car

[forrest89sei]

Oooooh yeeeah!

[AccordB20A]

good to see some work has ben done haha

[2ndGenGuy]

Moar kittehs!

[A18A]

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/23/img1995medium.jpg
after a little bit of persuasion with a hammer
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8642/img1996medium.jpg
and a new grill
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/883/img1997medium.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8416/img1998medium.jpg
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1537/img1999medium.jpg
a bit more work required, aligning front panels on these cars sucks

lol the car has usdm (lack of) style bumper lights

[87roach]

a bit more work required, aligning front panels on these cars really sucks

x2

[A18A]

lol yep. I can never get them 100% perfect

[A18A]

drum brakes
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5818/img2000medium.jpg
no drum brakes, and carb fuel tank
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9581/img2001medium.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5956/img2002medium.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5480/img2003medium.jpg
old stuff
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/839/img2004medium.jpg
rear discs
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5996/img2006mediumi.jpg
efi fuel tank
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3761/img2007medium.jpg
tank installed
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3030/img2009medium.jpg
this annoyed me cause it wasn't centered, i also swapped out the efi pump for a carb one cause i still currently drive the car
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7173/img2012mediumd.jpg
vigor sway bar
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4705/img2014medium.jpg

[A18A]

lowering springs in
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5583/img2013mediumo.jpg
discs installed
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6394/img2015medium.jpg
sway bar installed
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/2679/img2016medium.jpg
all done & bled
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/1821/img2019medium.jpg
enjoy :)

i haven't swapped the prop valve or m/c & booster yet, which causes the rear brakes to lock up instead of the front ones when you slam the brakes. i'll swap all them when i do the engine bay makeover :D

[87roach]

Wow man. A serious amount of work you're getting done so quick.

[A18A]

thank you :)

today i pulled off the front panels & got the motor ready for removal. also started removing the loom, but then had to plug it back in so i could move the car, because i don't like pushing cars
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/2034/img2022medium.jpg
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3074/img2021medium.jpg
a reminder of why these carbs suck
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8850/img2023medium.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/986/img2026medium.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7739/img2027medium.jpg

still waiting to get my garage back to myself...

[AccordB20A]

engine swap when you get the garage>? lol

[itzdave]

love the rims!

[DJAJ]

Where do u find all these Accords? :cheers:

[A18A]

trademe lol. and yes engine swap when i get my shed back

[Hauntd ca3]

well if the chassis number says what i think it does, being number 30 ca5 off the line, keep it stock just for history.
if i had ca3-1000030, i'd keep it stock as eh.
very nice find dude

[A18A]

i would but 2.0si is the best so i'll convert it to a si :)

[A18A]

drove the car into the garage and pulled the a20a out
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1687/img2031medium.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4381/img2032medium.jpg
engine bay is dirty but not as bad as i expected. typical broken front & rear engine mounts
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9639/img2035medium.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5052/img2036medium.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6939/img2037medium.jpg
dashboard removed
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/669/img2041medium.jpg
heater & such removed
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1649/img2043medium.jpg
steering column & pedals removed
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/537/img2044medium.jpg
loom removed
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6595/img2045medium.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9199/img2046medium.jpg

[A18A]

pull back firewall mat to install efi line
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6209/img2048medium.jpg
drill the efi feed line hole
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2007/img2049mediumd.jpg
^that is what it should've looked like. this is what it actually looks like lol
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6580/img2050medium.jpg
efi feed line
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7831/img2053medium.jpg
installed
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/4602/img2054medium.jpg
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the shittiest job of the whole efi conversion is now done yay!

now the engine bay needs to be cleaned. mother nature is helping me right now by rinsing it for me
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/640/img2061medium.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6932/img2060mediump.jpg

[Mellexx]

Holy massive amount of work! Yay for rear disks too (Y)

[charliekuney]

Stop making me relive how little I've done to my car. Also, what's the significance of "MXL"?

[Pico]

quick work Matt..Awesome!!!

[A18A]

thank you all :D

Stop making me relive how little I've done to my car. Also, what's the significance of "MXL"?

2.0 = A20A (cause they normally come with a A18A), M = Vigor (Accord would be E, and Accords with fixed headlights would be G, so it goes EXL, GXL, MXL, etc..), XL is basically just a LX like your guys cars.

[A18A]

engine bay is now cleaned
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/6316/img2065medium.jpg
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8179/img2062medium.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7026/img2064medium.jpg

car is now ready for reassembly. i get the garage back tonight yay!!!

[A18A]

lucky me, i went into my wire pile and got out this unmolested 2.0Si loom. it's wired for ABS & digital climate controls. The ABS wiring is good cause I can use those wires for other car features instead of running my own wires. WIN WIN WIN
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1369/img2066medium.jpg
started installing it but ran out of day light
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[AccordB20A]

well if the chassis number says what i think it does, being number 30 ca5 off the line, keep it stock just for history.
if i had ca3-1000030, i'd keep it stock as eh.
very nice find dude

funny how it says ca5 number 30 yet there were 2348952 ca5 accords made before it in prefacelift, i dunno how that works to be honest. maybe that is JDM only as a20a motors only came in japan in facelift cars. and edm/usdm ca5's have their own chassis number thats different.

good to see the POS motors out. lol your fuel line holes tidier than mine!

[A18A]

lol my last efi line i hammered heaps of holes with nails and bashed it out, that was hory as fuck. i assume that these chassis numbers are specific to jdm cars. i've never seen a factory prefacelift ca5 jdm accord before. this car must be a 87 unless they didn't start making the ca5s till 88

[DJAJ]

Do u sell these cars? u must go thru alot of them, your yard is the like the Dream version of Pick a part LOL!

[A18A]

my other ones are deregistered, only good for parts. only people who would buy them is the scrappy :lol:

I have 2 with live plates, one is a project, and the other is this one :D

[DJAJ]

Nice, what have you done to the headlights? looks good

[AccordB20A]

im the one thats had like 30 accords haha

[DJAJ]

Oh true :lol:

[A18A]

nothing done to the headlights, just pulled off the eyelid thingies cause they where broken :)

[DJAJ]

On your grey accord sq81? looks like yellow fog lights on your headlights?

[A18A]

oh lol yeah i painted the outside yellow. i got bored of that and then painted the insides black with the fog light reflector yellow
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/743/s5303800medium.jpg

[87roach]

Holy shit man.

Slow it down, this took me a long time to do and here you are busting it out in a few hours. Crazy balls.

[DJAJ]

Sweeet, is it not a sealed unit?

[A18A]

Holy shit man.

Slow it down, this took me a long time to do and here you are busting it out in a few hours. Crazy balls.
hehe, I'm trying to get this over and ddone with so I'm mobile again. I don't like having to use my mums car :P

Sweeet, is it not a sealed unit?

they are, i just chucked them in the oven for a couple minutes to soften the glue stuff and the glass just pulls right off :)

[DJAJ]

Oven! classic! Off to PaP to get another bumper woo hoo :D

[A18A]

didn't get as much done today as i planned due to too many interruptions. here's what has been done though..

loom installed inside the car
http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/2029/img2076medium.jpg
my customized pedals installed
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1382/img2078medium.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5609/img2081medium.jpg
mint guard installed
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/5753/img2083medium.jpg
engine bay almost ready for a motor
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8634/img2084medium.jpg
once everything is in, i'll spray the whole lot in degreaser and waterblast it

heater & blower installed with new seals. i can't find the a/c delete :mad:
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/5827/img2085medium.jpg
all electrics are working so far :D

[DJAJ]

Is this your new project car? Like them in that colour with pop up lights i actually hate the front of my car but it was all that was on offer at the time in 2.0SI.

[A18A]

nah my project is sitting in the shed still. I'm just fixing this one up to use as a run-around car, cause this is all that was on offer at the time with live plates :P

[DJAJ]

True dat :D

[A18A]

installed some good engine mounts & b20a power steering line
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/573/img2086medium.jpg
put the motor in the car!!
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3692/img2088medium.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/642/img2089mediumh.jpg
then 3-4 hours of good daylight got robbed from me by other people :( but i installed my lowering springs and connected it up enough & swapped fuel pumps and now the car runs! yay! would drive too if I had the accelerator cable installed. see all that lovely carbon monoxide in the air
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1209/img2091medium.jpg

[charliekuney]

Wait, your inner lights are fog lights, not the high beams?

[A18A]

yeah the high & low beam are in the same bulb on the outter lights

[DJAJ]

Looking good man :thumbup:

[AccordB20A]

cool, so tell me more about this fire you speak of

[A18A]

well i was looking to see if fuel was actually coming up through the fuel rail, so i loosened the nut on the rail and turned the key on and sure enough fuel everywhere, i bolted the line back on then tried to start the car and there must have been a spark through the leads or something cause the whole motor caught on fire lol

[A18A]

todays update: i installed all the brakes stuff and half ass bled them, they do not operate. maybe i failed when installing calipers or something. i'll have to look into it. went to take the car for a little blat but as soon as i went for 2nd gear all i got was lots of back firing and loud bangs. the rotor that aaron gave me had snapped inside the dizzy, however the fuck that happens. also the spark plugs that I bought brand new last year where smoking when i was testing for spark :wtf:

well I installed my air horns (needs to be wired up still), and some fog light brackets & the drivers side guard.
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2005/img2097medium.jpg
a honda just isn't right without one of these
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9104/img2094medium.jpg
next I hope to have all the body panels on, then I can start with the interior. I'm gonna paint one of my dashboards black since I don't have any factory black dashboards

[A18A]

wired up my horns and installed a front bumper and lights and stuff
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7986/img2098medium.jpg
it looks like a car again :)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8734/img2100medium.jpg
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9762/img2102mediumj.jpg
got this dash
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6046/img2106medium.jpg
cleaned it and put a 2.0si loom in it and then painted it
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/412/img2108medium.jpg
vacuum out the interior
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1733/img2109medium.jpg
interior halfassly installed. i'm having a hard time finding all the little bits and pieces needed to complete the car (N)
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8/img2113medium.jpg
I installed the seats aaron gave me cause they're in worse condition, and i don't want to put my mint ones in here as they will probably get owned
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/1389/img2112medium.jpg

i still haven't fixed the brakes yet lol

[DJAJ]

WOW! so quick looks awesome so far, Seats look good i saw some on TM but wasnt gonna buy them as they wouldnt match all my other brown LOL!

[A18A]

they are probably the ones that i bought :) and yeah you really need the rest of a interior to match lol. i'm just missing the back seats now

[AccordB20A]

haha your car looks like my car now. people are gunna think our cars are identcal twins. apart from mine has a digital dash and yours doesnt

[DJAJ]

:kekeke: I saw a digi dash at pick a part on a 1988 Prelude.

[AccordB20A]

it was a 2g lude and my mates bought it :)

[A18A]

anyways back to my car.. i bled the brakes properly today, they feel like shit. need a slightly bigger booster. engine now runs without error codes, but it's gone back to its subaru ways. what a cunt. i installed all my audio though and some more interior. i really wish i knew my motor runs so rough though :(

[A18A]

I swapped in a stock booster & adjusted it all the way so the pedal will be closer to the floor. brakes work better now, they at least lock up, and stops in a straight line, which is good. they could probably do with a re-bleed though since they still feel a little soft.

engine still running like shit for some unknown reason

[A18A]

so i mixed up a lot of plugs & leads, swapped the coil and sanded the rotor, the car doesnt run like a suby now MEAN jsut a little misfire every now and then. I can live with that. gonna make up a blower > heater duct thing cause i lost mine & foggy windows suck

car is fully road worthy now YAY

[A18A]

installed my wheels
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6392/img2117medium.jpg

[forrest89sei]

Yay! Wheels look nice :thumbup:

[1813mdw]

how many coats of clear did you end up putting on your rims? they look great btw

[charliekuney]

What color are all of your cars? Paint code?

[forrest89sei]

What color are all of your cars? Paint code?

NH-502M Asturias Grey Metallic

[charliekuney]

Isn't that the same color as our SE-i coupe?

[forrest89sei]

Isn't that the same color as our SE-i coupe?

http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Available_colors :naughty:

[AccordB20A]

one of the best colours that these cars come in (Y)

[charliekuney]

http://3geez.wiki-tv.com/Available_colors :naughty:

Indeed, I have seen that and reference it often, but Honda's SE-i brochure states that the SE-i coupe came in Brittany Blue and Asturias Gray.

[A18A]

Yay! Wheels look nice :thumbup:
thank you :wave:

how many coats of clear did you end up putting on your rims? they look great btw
i think it was 2 or 3, they ended up getting that yellowish tinge that you get with spray can clears, but that should make the wheels easier to clean (i hope)

one of the best colours that these cars come in (Y)
indeed

Indeed, I have seen that and reference it often, but Honda's SE-i brochure states that the SE-i coupe came in Brittany Blue and Asturias Gray.

those grey se-i coupes look quite different to the grey on our cars. unless there was a grey se-i coupe that I don't know about?

I like the se-i grey better, but i'm happy with what I got :)

[AccordB20A]

the 86-86 and 88-89 grey is different too rememeber on our JDm NH502M cars

[DJAJ]

Looking good, i was gonna put white mags on my car but i already have trouble keeping those clean :rofl:
I picked up a grey CA SI 4years back for $200 had really bad paint fade and clear was all peeling and the tranny was buggered no suprise there haha, but do agree its the best colour for these cars and less chance of rust! and it had elec sunroof wish i was in car restoration mode back then and not sold it oh well.

[A18A]

oh yeah that's another good things about the grey ones is they rust less lol. my white ones where pretty bad. what's yours like for rust?

[A18A]

i made a a/c delete till i can find my oem one.

pulled out some scrap metal
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/736/img2119medium.jpg
cut up & taped in some cardboard
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9092/img2120medium.jpg
done
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3047/img2122medium.jpg

this is cool & I know you all agree

[DJAJ]

Mine looks pretty tidy but has had alot of "work" done by previous owner most of it hidden, i replaced 2 doors that was the worst part for me.
Unless its had one owner and lived in a garage Honda's die so young ;)

[A18A]

lol yep. my first grey one was mint & garage kept by an old lady up until I bought it. pitty i ruined that car :(

[Mellexx]

Flippin' boss! Wheels look good

[A18A]

thank you (Y)

I gave the car its first wash today. white wheels are a bitch to keep clean
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8541/img2128medium.jpg
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/967/img2124medium.jpg
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[DJAJ]

:D Looks Awesome, what ya doing to inside, changing all the interior? i wish i had ripped all the exclusive leather out of a '88 Accord at pickapart, that place can be cheap and also a big ripp off!.

[A18A]

indeed. i have exclusive door panels & carpet installed (except for the rear, haven't done that yet) just missing some little bits and pieces for the interior but it's mostly complete lol.

I took the car for a decent drive today, it really sucks at cruising smoothly & it feels underpowered compared to a normal b20a. I don't know why it's running the way it is

[AccordB20A]

i wish i had ripped all the exclusive leather out of a '88 Accord at pickapart, that place can be cheap and also a big ripp off!.

was it grey with missing gearbox and carpet? both of which are in my car right now (Y)

[DJAJ]

Narh it was Blue :lol:

[AccordB20A]

muat have a few of them go through pick a part aye, soon there will be none left, ive wrecked like 5 of them

whats new mr A18A?

[A18A]

nothing new yet. need to install my other tinted windows and louvers and stuff. car should be looking pretty good after that :)

oh yeah i installed my homemade a/c delete. it works flawlessly

[AccordB20A]

so your driving it around now and the gearbox is sweet?

[A18A]

for now yeah lol. the only complaint i have about the drive train so far is the shift linkage i made could do with some tweaking. shitty apart about that is that would require cutting & welding

[A18A]

i swapped the rear doors cause it was faster than swapping windows and stuff. i also installed the window visors
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9529/img2131medium.jpg
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6924/img2132medium.jpg
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8813/img2134medium.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9708/img2135mediuml.jpg
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/8732/img2136medium.jpg
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/9034/img2137medium.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/836/img2141medium.jpg
and i got the rest of the interior in minus a hand brake cover and 2 door sill covers
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7028/img2143medium.jpg
and a picture of how shitty my motor is looking
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3154/img2144medium.jpg

[87roach]

Seat belts don't match.

Car looks horrible.

[forrest89sei]

Looking Great (Y) :thumbup:

[A18A]

the seat belts match the darker stripes in the floor mats :P

[A18A]

lol @ tonight. cruising around, being the ricer i am I launch the car from the lights and as i go to slam it into 2nd the shift linkage broke (obviously because teh b20a makes too much power) so i pull over cause the car was now stuck in neutral.. i get out and reach under the car and push the linkage into whatever gear i can, then get back in and drive home, in 4th. I thought it was funny. tomorrow: redo linkage better

[forrest89sei]

lol @ tonight. cruising around, being the ricer i am I launch the car from the lights and as i go to slam it into 2nd the shift linkage broke (obviously because teh b20a makes too much power) so i pull over cause the car was now stuck in neutral.. i get out and reach under the car and push the linkage into whatever gear i can, then get back in and drive home, in 4th. I thought it was funny. tomorrow: redo linkage better

FAIL! but you can mend it :cheers:

[AccordB20A]

lol poo spec. but yah i hate it how shit breaks cause of the power these old engines have!

[A18A]

yep. as long as i don't break any more gearboxes i should be alright

[DJAJ]

Loving the interior man :naughty:

[Mellexx]

aha failure at the shift linkage win for powaaa!

[A18A]

Loving the interior man :naughty:
thank you, and me too :)

aha failure at the shift linkage win for powaaa!

lol fail indeed. i replaced it with a stock one for now & now that i'm used to the short shifter, the stock one feels like the gears are miles apart lol

[MessyHonda]

thank you, and me too :)


lol fail indeed. i replaced it with a stock one for now & now that i'm used to the short shifter, the stock one feels like the gears are miles apart lol

your right when i drove my coupe it had a stock shifter and it almost took an extra 10 ms just to shift

[A18A]

installed my louvers :)
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/2858/img2145medium.jpg

[DJAJ]

:bow: So jealous hahaha

[AccordB20A]

looks good! is your motor as fast as mine yet??

[A18A]

no it's pathetic atm. almost as slow as a a20a. if it's not cold tomorrow i'm gonna put the stock intake manifold back on and see if i get some power back

[A18A]

here's a quick (or rather slow & disappointing) 0-100 kph run. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8EJ_nYapOU

[A18A]

i put the stock manifold back on and it's way more torquey down low. but it still doesn't feel as fast as it should be. it's still doing its stupid shudder at cruise speeds too, that's really annoying. other than those 2 issues it's good

[DJAJ]

Haha i think my auto is about that fast all the time, still pretty good till ya tweak it.

:rockon:

[Hauntd ca3]

thats not that slow matt. try a carbed d15 ef civic, thats slow.
and dont those louvers look sweet!

[AccordB20A]

thats not that slow matt. try a carbed d15 ef civic, thats slow.
and dont those louvers look sweet!

has one. d15b dual carb auto and its faster than a a18/a20 acord

[Hauntd ca3]

single carb lx manual. 290,000 on the clock

[A18A]

oh yeah single carby d15 lol i used to drive one and think it was fast haha. but nah yeah i think this car just lacks some high end power? maybe it might go good if i chuck the cam timing off a tooth or something like it used to be on my old motor.. or put my PT5 ECU back in.. i dunno. i'm more annoyed about its shdudering while cruising. that's highly annoying

[A18A]

Haha i think my auto is about that fast all the time, still pretty good till ya tweak it.

:rockon:

lol sad that means my car is as fast as a auto :(

[AccordB20A]

my cars faster than all of yours

[DJAJ]

Wanna race boi :rofl:

[A18A]

i'm in. winner takes all

[Hauntd ca3]

my cars faster than all of yours

and mine will kick your arse there youngun, well when its done it will

[AccordB20A]

^^if you EVER get it done that is lol. even then its a blacktop motor so it wont

[Hauntd ca3]

am getting back into it man, dont you worry bout that.

[A18A]

and back to my car, I installed a new alarm today. it goes awesome. it's good having the folding mirrors wired to the alarm again. yay

[AccordB20A]

good to hear

[DJAJ]

Cool, i always laugh when i see mirrors smacked off cars in the city :kekeke:

[A18A]

it also sucks when you're at countdown or something and you come back and find one of your mirrors are folded (usually all the way out). yay for the fold button. more yay for the alarm that folds them in. hmm what next to do to the car??

all i need to complete the car now is my pfl vigor bootlid & to get the motor running better. yayah

[Hazwan]

Mine is slower :'(

[A18A]

i put a vigor ass back on the car, it's looking good now :) i put the pt5 ecu in the car and done some other minor stuff and now it's running all smoothy mint again yay. still lacking high end power but i'll just call that "gearbox protection" mode

[AccordB20A]

maybe your ecu has some fail solder joins in it thats making kit run like crap

[DJAJ]

One thing i didnt like bout my '86 vigor mxl was the ass :kekeke:
Pic'S?

[A18A]

lol haha nah i dont has any pics. another update though the car is being damn good on fuel. I ran it dry the other day then put 4.71 litres of 95 in, done around 60km (nana driving, around town) and it hasn't sputtered yet. im guessing thats somewhere over 13km/l sweeet. i also installed my flashing fog lights for a laugh cause i was bored

[AccordB20A]

im not a fan of the vigor rear end either but at least its a PFL one not the facelift one which is even gayer.

[A18A]

vigor rears look lame unless they have a spoiler, then they look awesome. anyways update time, i acquired another car that runs mint so i'm gonna swap out the dizzy, plugs & leads so mine can be all factory again. it also has all the little bits and pieces i want for my car that i've lost over the years

[A18A]

i swapped the leads and plugs from the other car into this one. this motor now runs flawlessly smooth, probably the smoothest drive train i've ever had. i'm happy. still lacking in the power department, but i don't really care lol

[A18A]

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4773/image013o.jpg
that's just rain. I haven't cleaned it yet. when i get some degreaser, i'll spray the whole engine bay and then water blast it all minty clean. until then, i'm happy with how it looks

[AccordB20A]

you and you gay stock blacktop motors

[Jorge Ariel Gyökér]

you and you gay stock blacktop motors

sorry about the ignorance... but.. wich color is the best top on those engines? and how much does it costs where you are?

[AccordB20A]

gold top b20 motors have more power, but the only differences between the two are emission related due to new emission standards that came in in 1988 or something...

[Jorge Ariel Gyökér]

gold top b20 motors have more power, but the only differences between the two are emission related due to new emission standards that came in in 1988 or something...

thank you! and.. is possible to get one of those? how much does it costs? :)

[AccordB20A]

i dunno if they are available where you are, but if you look hard enough you will find one, but good luck finding a manual gearbox for it.

probably cheaper to do a b series conversion that to import one from over here..

[Jorge Ariel Gyökér]

i dunno if they are available where you are, but if you look hard enough you will find one, but good luck finding a manual gearbox for it.

probably cheaper to do a b series conversion that to import one from over here..

:O but tell me how much does it cost there... i dont think i can find one here.. :S so... how can i do de conversion? i have just a A20A2 :(

[A18A]

and back to my car, i have acquired a full set of king springs that i have no idea what they're from, but they look like they'll fit in my car, so I'll try them out. also made up a new exhaust which sounds nice and doesnt rattle. got me some mint 205/55/15 tyres for the rear. yay. also bought a new sub, just need a good enough amp to use it to its full potential now.

[Hazwan]

Pics or it didn't happen

[A18A]

pics when i remember lol. i stuck the rear king springs in and they raised the car (probably cause i had to put another spring-sitty-onny-thing on the stock spring-sitty-onny-thing)

also discovered the shocks are really fucked lol. i knew they where bacd, but did't know they where THAT bad

[AccordB20A]

are the shocks that fucked they squirt oil at you haha i had that happen once at work

[Hauntd ca3]

pics when i remember lol. i stuck the rear king springs in and they raised the car (probably cause i had to put another spring-sitty-onny-thing on the stock spring-sitty-onny-thing)

also discovered the shocks are really fucked lol. i knew they where bacd, but did't know they where THAT bad

when i put the kings in my car, i threw all the rubber bits that the springs sit on and the bit at the top of the spring in the bin. with just low kings and 205/50/15s i was 5mm above the old 100mm ground clearance. whack a bloody great sub box in the boot and a tow bar, and you will be good.

[Hazwan]

Moar low or GTFO.

[A18A]

slight update, car is on its 4th motor now, seems to be reliable now. i got me a free parts car at work
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9149/image011yw.jpg
and a couple hours later, after i got everything i wanted
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8948/image012fj.jpg
lol. got me some new tail lights, retractable rear seat belts, mint dual core copper radiator with a mint cap, and lots of other random shit

i also have a couple subs & amps in the back now. goes loud :)

i should get some pics of my car cause it looks good now

[Hazwan]

Sends teh climate control D:

[obdriver6]

Poor 3g :( I never want to see mine end up like that

[AccordB20A]

pics@!!@@112 lol

[Andy Frank]

The red car looks good & still worth US$3.000 in my country, OMG you've just destroyed it.

[A18A]

bump. update time. i put a new towbar on my car cause the old one started splitting. i got me some of those chromey things that go over the stock exhaust tips to make them bling. i done a bunch of other things to that I can't remember.... and gave the car a good cleaning which only happens like once a month
http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/989/25820159253255.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7805/25820199261683.jpg
http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/6767/25820129274809.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3249/25820139286964.jpg
heres my current boom setup. the box was made for my old sub, it's a bit small for this one i think
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6878/25820169316336.jpg
at least i get to keep most of my boot space

[AccordB20A]

copycat. next thing your gunnas have a digital dash like me too. haha

[obdriver6]

Looking good!!!

[A18A]

look my clutch is rooooooted
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1048/2583012medium.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/251/2583010medium.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9975/2583011medium.jpg

[A18A]

i took this opportunity to water blast the motor & gearbox & engine bay
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2615/2583017medium.jpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9243/2583018medium.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9250/2583015medium.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5184/2583016medium.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7928/2583021medium.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/770/2583019medium.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4641/2583020medium.jpg


pics suck cause the camera flashed

[AccordB20A]

lol nice alarm siren placement. lets hope you can find a clutch kit cheap local

[Hauntd ca3]

i think someone has been beating on that clutch eh?
i am beginning to think i should have kept those louvers now :)

[A18A]

the clutch has had a good run, since i've had it i've prolly towed a good 50 or so cars with it :)

speaking of the louvers i used some liquid nails to stick the clips to the glass & some duct tape for extra peace of mind, they've been on there for about a month now with no sign of failure :D

[ShyBoyCA6]

can i haz motor?

[A18A]

buy me a real b-series + mounts and you can haz :P

[A18A]

i bought a new clutch & got my flywheel resurfaced. I even torqued the bolts down properly. in theory the clutch should be good for another couple hundred thousand km (hopefully)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/465/2583034medium.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4535/2583035medium.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4690/2583038medium.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1763/2583039medium.jpg
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/9617/2583040medium.jpg
these mounts
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2849/2583042medium.jpg
caused this lean (N)
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7675/2583041medium.jpg

i put about 100km on the car so far. it sucks having to be gentle on the car

[Hauntd ca3]

with the way you north islanders drive, i doubt the clutch will last 10k let alone 200k . sorry, just feel like poking fun at the NI.
looks to be a good thing,exedy at least.
is nice having a clutch you can give arseholes with out worrying about.
just be nice to it
we all know how hard b2k5 g/boxes are to find.

[ShyBoyCA6]

where did you buy those mounts?? was it rockauto?

[A18A]

i got them from work lol

[ShyBoyCA6]

lol oh :ugh:

[AccordB20A]

maybe that front mount is a legend one or something that caused that lean. those round mounts suck cock anyways they allways fuck out. 2 X rear mounts in where its at fool

[A18A]

nah it was from an accord. all stock mounts can go fuck them selves. i made my own front mount out of a old nissan one. it's solid as now, prolly dont even need the dog bone mount anymore

[AccordB20A]

like this one i made?
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4092/2583048medium.jpg

like my wireless O2 sensor??

[ShyBoyCA6]

Lol wireless O2

[A18A]

like this one i made?
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4092/2583048medium.jpg

like my wireless O2 sensor??

similar, except mines not as hory as yours :D

i made one for the back too, and i also realized they where actually vl mounts
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4646/img2376medium.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6882/img2377medium.jpg

[AccordB20A]

are they actually the right height etc?

[A18A]

it's a lot straighter than before, but not 100% perfect. it's good enough

[obdriver6]

like this one i made?
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4092/2583048medium.jpg

like my wireless O2 sensor??

I didn't know the B20A had this kind of technology, now I want one even more! lol

[dark_accord]

custom motor mount is (Y)

[A18A]

Why yes, fellow newbie dark accord, i agree with you. welcome to this website. :kekeke:

[Hazwan]

buy me a real b-series + mounts and you can haz :P

Heres your real B series:
http://cumminsengines.com/assets/images/products/const_ag_other_bseries.jpg


Why yes, fellow newbie dark accord, i agree with you. welcome to this website. :kekeke:

X2

:welcome: Now PICS of your car kthx

[A18A]

why that there looks like a boat anchor :lol:

[A18A]

time for some moar h22
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2301/2583433mediumqjd.jpg

[tiefling]

Love it all. Gotta ask what rims are those? size and such? Not sure about white on my car but everything else is perfect. :) Oh, and foglights... where do you find those square ones? Thanks in advance.

[A18A]

cheers. the wheels are "PIAA nakajima racing" not sure on size, I think they're 15x6.5. the fog lights are standard ones for these cars :)

[obdriver6]

time for some moar h22
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2301/2583433mediumqjd.jpg

So much win but where's the B20A?

[A18A]

It's on the garage floor.

[obdriver6]

So no more B20A?

[A18A]

not for this car :)

[MessyHonda]

sweet h22

[AccordB20A]

(y)

[A18A]

it's alive and powers its own wheels, now i have to do all the shitty boring stuff of tidying it up making it work mint
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2604/2583466medium.jpg
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/5351/2583467medium.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6638/2583468medium.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4883/2583469medium.jpg

[87roach]

Sweet!

Is it touching the firewall?

[obdriver6]

Nice! Another H22 3gee on the road!

[A18A]

Sweet!

Is it touching the firewall?

it's very close, i had to cut out the torque rod mount thing and bash some of that lip away from just under the chassis number. I also had to bash the frame rail a bit for the crank pulley to fit properly, and also the subframe that holds the steering rack. I didn't realize how big these motors where till it was in the engine bay
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5883/2583470medium.jpg

I took it for a drive today, left side axle binds like fuckery under load. i'll just chop some of the cv joint off till it works. that will do until I can get me a mid shaft from a 4g accord. drivers side axle works mint though, it's a EF civic axle with a 90 accord inner CV

power wise, I'm currently using a dohc f22b ecu (no vtax) and it's about as fast as a good running b20a. so it should go mint once i've wired up all the extra stuff and install the h22a ecu.

[obdriver6]

You need VVVTTTAAAKKKK!!!!

[A18A]

I just spent all night converting this
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2121/2583489medium.jpg
into this
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6954/2583494medium.jpg
the car is permanently obd1 now. I'll tidy that up tomorrow.

the h22a has 2 ECTs, I don't know where to wire the 2nd one. I get error codes for ELD (using an Accord alternator instead of a prelude one) and a o2 sensor heater error, dunno why, sensor must be fucked

i put the gauges with a electric vss in (no more cable yay)
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/310/2583490medium.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/627/picture006ggb.jpg

power steering is also all done now and works the best ever since i've had the car
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4986/2583487medium.jpg

almost complete, main things left that need doing are:
notch the stock crossmember (for the exhaust) and put that back on
install a heatshield between the exhaust and shifter cables
modify my passenger side cv joint
install teh dual core radiator
and get another rocker cover

sweet!

[AccordB20A]

are you excited about having a vtec accord that u made by yourself that wont pass a Warant of Fitness Check???

[A18A]

still havent driven it yet lol. i'll make my car wofable some how

[AccordB20A]

at least now the mounts are sorted you can pull out the engine and get someone to weld the mounts and make them look prety

[A18A]

i really wont look forward to pulling the motor out of this, that will be like a whole day job just to get it out

[A18A]

i took it for a blat today, car goes hard :D

[2oodoor]

amazing!

[MessyHonda]

vids!

[A18A]

vids after the car is fully functional

today i decided to notch the accord front cross member to clear the exhaust(cause the prelude cross member had too much fail going on) obviously i didn't measure before cutting and cut it way off target
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5858/2583506medium.jpg
never mind, it turned out all good
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9765/2583514medium.jpg
installed a stock radiator, wrapped the hose joinery things in tape to fit the bigger hoses
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9950/2583517medium.jpg
not much room between my the fan and my churr bro clutch adapter
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4065/2583519medium.jpg
should have a rocker cover by the end of the week if things go to plan

[AccordB20A]

lol measure not at all and cut 30 times!!!

[obdriver6]

Is it functional now?

[A18A]

i do drive it yes, but it still needs a axle, exhaust heat shield & a rocker cover before i'd call it complete

[bullard123]

Nice swap Matt!! And Im digging the yellow top valve cover lol

[A18A]

that wont be around for much longer, there should be another one on the way to me right now :)

also fixed the axle binding problem, i removed both clips on each end of the axle so i could move the cv joint & bearing holder as far back on the axle as they can go, on the outer end i welded it to the cv joint, on the inner end i just slid the bearing holder thing as far back as it would go. hory as, but is working good for now lol. now i can replace the upper & lower ball joints on that side that have play in them now lol

[AccordB20A]

told ya that idea would work

[A18A]

indeed. hope it's reliable lol. now my rocker cover should just hurry the fuck up and arrive!

[AccordB20A]

i reckon. then u need to get some fuel and come a visit au

[A18A]

lol yeah, when i have money to throw around. i washed the car
http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/5595/2583582medium.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3936/2583583medium.jpg

[ShyBoyCA6]

Damn how many 3g's do you have lol?

[A18A]

1 daily (this one)
1 project
1 spare
1 for parts

[AccordB20A]

damn your back yards turned into a dumping site again.

car looks standard and slow with those wheels haha

[ShyBoyCA6]

can i haz right hand assem?

[A18A]

damn your back yards turned into a dumping site again.

car looks standard and slow with those wheels haha
lol yeah, most of the mess is trees this time instead of car parts

can i haz right hand assem?

watchu mean?

[pickupman6]

Hey, that thing is lookin B-E-A-UTIFUL. Are those 13s on there with your rear discs? I didn't know the would fit.

[ShyBoyCA6]

right hand drive :) wouldn't mind having it for my car haha im kidding though. it will cost to much and way to much work.. :/ or i would buy it and convert.

[obdriver6]

I want that duck tail! :/

[AccordB20A]

im sure you guys have ducks over there to steal a tail off.

fixed ur vtec yet?

[A18A]

nah im not gonna bother doing anything to it till i got my rocker cover

[Hash_man_Se_i]

I haven't checked this build thread in a long long time... Looking good! that h22 looks huge in there.

[A18A]

it is indeed a big motor. i have a video of the car with it running shitty as, probably about as quick as a a20a lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgmHFc2F0zs

i'll probably weigh the car sometime in the near future. last time i weighed the car it was 1240kg, can't remember what was all in the car though

[Hauntd ca3]

so it might be almost the same a a b20a on 4age quads then when it running right

[A18A]

dunno lol, is yours running yet? I'll youtube race you!

[AccordB20A]

yay i have the slowest accord in NZ

[Hauntd ca3]

dunno lol, is yours running yet? I'll youtube race you!

nah, its a ways off yet.
after a few more hold ups ( wife having baby, house needing painting etc etc)
i finished all the body work on the shell in the weekend , and if weather is good this weekend i'll be priming it and blowing colour on at easter.
am tossing up an engine rebuild for the accord or a new motor bike as a qualification pressie in a few months when i finish my apprenticeship.

[Tdurr]

I want.

[A18A]

fukyea just what i've been needing for the past 2 years
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2626/2583587mediumr.jpg
even better, it didn't come with a gasket :rant: i'll have to hory one up out of other gaskets

[Tdurr]

I'm guessing gaskets are hard to get?

[A18A]

nah i'm just too cheap to spend $20 on a new one :D

[Tdurr]

-_-

[A18A]

hey i'm already $50 over budget for this swap :(

[A18A]

tu meke bro!
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6431/2583594medium.jpg
I'll do something more permanent when I install the cover for the final time
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/558/2583595medium.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3305/2583596medium.jpg
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5324/2583597medium.jpg
now i want a spark plug cover, the loom bit that goes over the rocker cover for the alternator, a exhaust manifold cover & a intake & the motor should look factory in there :)

I also require spark plug leads that are longer than teh d-series ones in there right now

[AccordB20A]

dumb.

au videos bro

[A18A]

vids when it's running better & vtec is working. hopefully it's EGR related why it's not working, or my non-matching knock sensor is making the ecu retard the timing. not something major fail i hope.

I still need to fix this
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5479/img0078mediumj.jpg

I think this motor has passed it's best-before date lol