Finally, I'm BACK in a 3G!!

[Doward]

That DX I thought I was going to snag back in March fell the hell through (guy was a douchebag, talked up how awesome the car was, then suddenly wanted 2x the price, just total fucktard)

Anyway, sitting in my front yard is what will be the wife's new daily - '89 Accord LXi Coupe 5 speed / sunroof for $400. Supposed BHG, we'll see what I find after a new battery.

Turbo project is still on! 8psi blown A20A3 with a mild cam, intercooled, on an OBD1 ecu setup. Asked the SO what she thought of it, her words - "I heart boost, you know that!"

Pics tomorrow. Got a very slight bit of rust around the sunroof, and the seal appears to be shot, so off the search 3Geez.

For anyone that doesn't know, and didn't care, I had the $50 '88 DX 4 door back in '08-'09... ended up having to sell her for $900, and I've been looking for a clean 3G ever since.

NO IDEA WHY I LOVE THESE CARS SO MUCH :( I'm happy to have one again!!

[jesus_charger]

NO IDEA WHY I LOVE THESE CARS SO MUCH

haha x2

[Doward]

I love the style... My old 88 had a broken front coil spring, busted shocks, bent radius arm and still handled better than any other beater I've had. Going to fix this one up right :)

[Demon1024]

Congo-Rat-mutilations man. BOOST that sucker!

give us some pics!

[Doward]

Pics coming once I get the bitch off the trailer ;) Tracking down battery. Looks like SEARS of all places will be my best bet - 525CCA 1 year warranty for $49.98 - gonna see if Advance up the road will price match that ;)

[2oodoor]

Pics coming once I get the bitch off the trailer ;) Tracking down battery. Looks like SEARS of all places will be my best bet - 525CCA 1 year warranty for $49.98 - gonna see if Advance up the road will price match that ;)

I amember you...was jetting a weber holley before I think
Good luck on price matching, good price btw... they can opt out of those sometimes by comparing the free replacement warrenty, advance has some of the highest month terms for those.

[Doward]

Yeah, walmart had a 26 series for 45 so went that route.

[Doward]

Sorry about the tarp, not taking any chances of the sunroof leaking until I get a chance to go over it thoroughly... the inner shade says SKY TOP if anyone knows anything about it? PICS:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8795/1001321d.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/1001321d.jpg/)

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4940/1001322g.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/1001322g.jpg/)

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4913/1001323t.th.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/1001323t.jpg/)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9445/1001324h.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/1001324h.jpg/)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2869/1001325a.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/1001325a.jpg/)

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/695/1001326k.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/1001326k.jpg/)

I'll start a project thread after I actually start tearing in... supposed BHG? We'll see what the real culprit is ;)

Day 1: Attempted Startup
1989 Honda Accord Revival: Day 1 - Trying to start her up! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWvQW296_E0)

Day 2: Testing ECM
1989 Honda Accord Revival: Day 2 - Testing the ECM - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfE9QpUwWpo)

Day 3: Hitting the U-Pull-It for more injectors
1989 Honda Accord Revival: Day 3 - U Pull It + Injectors - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APNTKS9npsY)

Day 4: Part 1 - Disassembly Junkyard injectors
1989 Honda Accord Revival: Day 4(a) - Disassembling U-Pull-It Injectors - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDUQQfygj0)

Day 4: Part 2 - Ultrasonic cleaning the Junkyard Injectors!
1989 Honda Accord Revival Day 4(b) - Ultrasonic Cleaning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB0NNRNcZuE)

Day 4: Part 3 - Swapping injectors
1989 Honda Accord Revival: Day 4(c) - Swapping Injectors - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI-TSLOeXZk)

Day 4: Part 4 - Light 'er up!!
1989 Honda Accord Revival: Day 4(d) - Firing the old girl up! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hR3jbFXI-o)

Day 5: Setting the timing!
1989 Honda Accord Revivial: Day 5 - Setting the timing! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn0DvY7GBLc)

[Doward]

Ouch... compression test results - 50 / 67 / 60 / 105

Definitely gonna be doing some work in there ;)

[ShyBoyCA6]

piston rings and head gasket. wow those numbers are lower than my black coupe :omg:

[Doward]

It's raining, so I'll do another test tomorrow after squirting a bit of oil into the combustion chambers. If it comes up - worn rings (motor only has 101k tho), if not, head gasket is the likely culprit.

Might just yank and re-ring the motor with fresh bearings anyway, though...

[Vanilla Sky]

Where are you located? Trees make me think somewhere pretty local to me. Central Florida?

[Doward]

Hah, yep - G'ville.

[Vanilla Sky]

Let me know if you ever need a hand. I'm like an hour away, and I still have a small stash of 3gee parts, including at least one good motor.

[stat1K]

good pickup man, that shit looks pretty nice for the price. wish i could find something like that.

[Doward]

Vanilla, I might hit you up on that - Current plan of attack:

1) Pull head, inspect, rebuild top end of engine, retest compression
2) Fix the sunroof
3) Roll-on paint job (Rustoleum Sand)
4) Suspension/brakes (4 wheel discs + poly bushings)
5) OBD-1 conversion
6) Built a20 + LX/DX 5 speed (want the lower final drive ratio) / Turbo

I intend to keep this 3G for a long, LONG time :)

[Vanilla Sky]

For the cost, I'd install megasquirt instead of OBD1. It's really about the same price, but MS is SO much more configurable.

[Doward]

It's going to depend on whether or not I find an OBD1 Integra / Civic sitting in the u-pull-it :) If I can find one there, I can get ECU / Distributor / harness for about $50.

Convert the distributor, rework the harness, chip the ECU, and away we go :) If not, MS2 will be the backup plan.

[Vanilla Sky]

I'd skip straight to MS3. I'm more of a geek than needed for fuel injection, though.

If you're buying the parts to make the distributor fit and the conversion harness, you're well into MS3 territory, price wise. From there, it gets more difficult to set up, but for crank fire ignition, it's completely worth it to me.

[Doward]

I'd skip straight to MS3. I'm more of a geek than needed for fuel injection, though.

If you're buying the parts to make the distributor fit and the conversion harness, you're well into MS3 territory, price wise. From there, it gets more difficult to set up, but for crank fire ignition, it's completely worth it to me.

I would, but the MS3 system I've got here is already slated to go into the Supra.

And honestly, I have no need *at all* for the extra capabilities of the MS3 vs MS2. Hell, I WOULD just go MS1 on it, but I do like the extra resolution of the MS2.

As for OBD1 conversion, if I can find what I need at the u-pull-it, I'm only looking at $50 or so... we'll see, first gotta see if what I need is out there ;)

[Vanilla Sky]

Are you getting the adapter plate or working something out?

[Doward]

Thinking I'm just going to cast my own aluminum plate and mill the faces (I have my own foundry)... haven't decided yet :)

[charliekuney]

ssmca6<3

[MessyHonda]

looks in nice shape

[Doward]

Yeah, now if I could just find time to work on the damn thing :(

$95 from RockAuto, and I've got everything for tuneup, filters, and top end rebuild... just need TIME :(

[Doward]

Head is off, I've got pics around somewhere. The head gasket had no major issues I could spot - I'm picking up the head tomorrow, then I'll slam it all back together over the weekend and do another compression test, including a leak down if warranted.

The headliner is out - it was total garbage. The sunroof is actually and entire assembly that bolts in - I'll get pics of it at some point over the weekend, then I'll be pulling that entire assembly out so I can test the electric retraction motor and everything else.

[Doward]

Yep, I'm slow :( No damn time to get anything done!!

Latest:

New water pump + thermostat...
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293659_10150418001357495_533907494_9878333_8578231 53_n.jpg

New alternator + upper end parts...
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/320523_10150418001807495_533907494_9878335_1012941 345_n.jpg

Head waiting patiently to go back in...
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305820_10150418003262495_533907494_9878339_2060806 560_n.jpg

Head + gasket on, timing belt finally on! I cut the old one off, forgot I had to remove the right engine mount to put the new on one LOL
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316698_10150418234077495_533907494_9880388_2070462 803_n.jpg

Me taking a damn break, lower timing cover is on, water pump is on, alternator is on, head is on (just needs to be torqued)
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/300022_10150418334852495_533907494_9881372_3123975 42_n.jpg

Not bad for a Saturday :cool: Should have the engine buttoned back up tomorrow!

Tonight I'll:
1) Finish putting the head bolts in, torque all to spec
2) Finish installing the 'front' of the engine with new belts
3) Hook up the electrical system

Tomorrow will be:
1) Grab some 1/4" and 5/8" line to finish some coolant house routing
2) Flush (forward and back) the cooling system
3) Fluids

Is there an easy way to drain the fuel tank in these 3Gs, short of 'punch a hole'?

[import racer]

Some had a drain plug in them and some didn't,maybe you'll get lucky.

[obdriver6]

Just a little more and you'll have her running.

[Doward]

Latest pic:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305769_10150422546927495_533907494_9910584_4617817 18_n.jpg

Poor engine looks rough, but I should finish buttoning her up tomorrow and then I'll see if she fires for me :)

Anybody have a pic of where the hose from the PCV valve goes on the EFI engine? Previous owner had a water hose (yellow garden hose, I shit you not) running from the valve cover down to the side of the transmission as his ventilation system.

I'm fairly certain it'll just go up to the post-TB port on the intake manifold, but would rather check, first ;)

[elpuma]

Its the black one running to the intake mani right there on the front.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7725/enginebayy.jpg

[apache07x]

Is there an easy way to drain the fuel tank in these 3Gs, short of 'punch a hole'?[/QUOTE]

Don't know if all of the 3g's are the same but mine actually has a drain plug in it.

[2drSE-i]

I should have seen this sooner, I could've warned you. That Duralast water pump is absolutely worthless. I've replaced it twice now and it still makes so much noise!

[Doward]

Damn, it's already in. Well, it's getting a full flush and I'll make sure to keep good coolant in the car. It seemed to have a decent bearing system in it when I tested it prior to install.... Gonna hope your store has a bad batch, LOL. Otherwise, I'll go OEM.

[Doward]

I love how I work on things. Almost a year later I FINALLY start working on the car again....

And what do I have to show? Well, nothing right this second, I'm at work, but I'll post pics of the haul I made this week.

SEi complete rear end, B20A complete engine, SEi cupholders / armrest and misc other parts... yeah, it's a start ;)

[Doward]

Pics!

Rear SEi Assembly:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Hpu_QK7IqDI/UDEc06epOrI/AAAAAAAABTU/NkgJhwGZHJI/s1157/IMAG0032.jpg

Back of the Avalanche filled with B20A lol
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f4JCnRNi1ME/UDEc3vKu47I/AAAAAAAABTc/Z7E6WtIDX2s/s1157/IMAG0033.jpg

Misc parts:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZSYCEm79KjI/UDEdBPlonCI/AAAAAAAABTs/516hPq2g1Co/s1157/IMAG0035.jpg

Latest (yesterday) is everything is hooked up, drained the old gas out of the tank.

Next will be fresh gas + freshly charged battery, see if the fuel pump (hopefully) still works!

[LJ1987LX-I]

Can't wait to see more, good sir!

[Doward]

Fuel pump = dead. Jumped the Main Relay, verified +12 at the pump, pump doesn't respond.

Got a cheap $25 ebay (new) Fuel pump + strainer on the way, going to see if I can bring her back to life.

Already found out that I definitely will be doing some electrical work. PO mangled quite a bit of wiring :( Brake lights stay on, for example - even with the key off!

[Civic Accord Honda]

Car looks nice! and great progress made so far! take a video when you fire it up on the new fuel pump :D

[obdriver6]

Brake lights should always work whether the key is in any position. Have you tried looking at the switch?

[Doward]

Not yet, that's on my agenda. You're saying the brake lights should still light up, even with the key outside of the vehicle?

Fuel pump should be going in on Monday!

[obdriver6]

Yep. A couple of weeks ago me and a buddy were picking up somebody, after a while we got out of the car to get some ice cream, as I was walking back to the car I noticed my brake lights were ON. So I started looking under the dash and found that the rubber piece the pushes on the brake switch was missing and since we where in a hurry I just ended up putting a screw where the rubber piece is suppose to go. You could also have a mis-adjusted switch. Sorry for blabbering! lol

[Doward]

That's great information! I may actually move that circuit to an ignition-only. But I bet when i check the wiring harness, I'll find the brake lights are involved with the hazard circuit, which clearly needs 12v constant.

I'll dig out my manuals and see what I find out. Looking forward to installing the fuel pump on Monday, though! Hope to finally get her to fire up.

[Civic Accord Honda]

the brake lights should only turn on when you press the pedel lol (good to leave it that way if your car stalls out or something you still want the lights on ) but if there staying on like when your not pushing the pedel down then its the switch under the dash on the pedel arm. little piece of rubber breaks off and they dont off

[Doward]

Heading out shortly to swap the 14" steelies + $200 for a set of super clean looking fat fives with good tires :)

[Civic Accord Honda]

Winning

[Doward]

Fat fives procured. The tires aren't quite as nice as the guy made 'em out, but hey, it's better than steelies!

Pics and hopefully running video tomorrow.

[Doward]

Got an early start!

Fat Fives installed:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ngIgBp-d3oc/UESYPJr8SqI/AAAAAAAABdY/QHsrnco9zwI/s1424/IMAG0052.jpg

Unfortunately, I found this :(
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rAa730qIrfw/UESYaGUZOKI/AAAAAAAABdo/2CZFFAdxdXs/s1424/IMAG0054.jpg

So what does this mean? Well, obviously I'll have some body work to do in the future! For right now, I just need to get her running. I might fiberglass it over until I get a chance to do it right, though.

[2oodoor]

Looks good with those on there:D

[Doward]

Fuel pump pressurizes. After charging the battery, spin her over... no run.

Ok, check spark again - good, strong spark. Pop the service bolt on the fuel filter, and I've got fuel pressure.

So next will be a) verifying correct fuel pressure and b) noid lights on the fuel injectors.

If I have good fuel pressure and the noid lights confirm commanded fuel from the ECU, then I'm looking at sending the injectors off to have them cleaned!

[Civic Accord Honda]

go to the local junkyard and get another set of injectors!

[Doward]

What guarantee do I have that they'll work? My guy charges $18/injector, fully blueprinted and flowtested. I'd rather spend the $72 to KNOW they are perfect ;)

But first, I have to make sure they are even being commanded to operate.

[Civic Accord Honda]

junkyard is free :lol: :lol: i allwasy just a couple spare sets for testing and what knot. it also could be injector reistor box have you tried starting it on starting fulid?

[Doward]

Just tried to start on starting fluid... didn't fire up on there. Going to do some more work on it Tuesday, I hope!

[Doward]

SO Tuesday became... well... MUCH later.

She's alive. I'll update this thread with some videos :)

[Vanilla Sky]

Sweet. What was it?

[Doward]

Fuel Injectors were crapped. New ones with some ultrasonic cleaning handled that.

[Doward]

Updated Post #8 with video links :)

Why don't we have [youtube] tag ability here?

[Legend_master]

Updated Post #8 with video links :)

Why don't we have [youtube] tag ability here?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWvQW296_E0

[Doward]

Ah, it's [video]! LOL thanks ;)

[Doward]

Alright, latest update on the car (been working on her sporadically)

Double checked the timing, got her to fire up (had to pedal her to get her to start) - she warms up a bit, then stalls out. Great.

That was 3 days ago, and I haven't been able to get the car to fire back up for me. I'm beginning to think I may need to drop the fuel tank, pick up another fuel filter, and do a full clean and flush of the entire fuel system. I'm almost certain I have more garbage in the fuel system again. Ugh.