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Hazwan
01-18-2012, 08:06 PM
Oh I realized that this is not the lame ass 3geez group on failbook but





































http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/398072_10150498045452106_724677105_8996496_1059469 472_n.jpg

Say wuuuut?

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/404350_10150496146627106_724677105_8991452_1797662 431_n.jpg

Yep.

obdriver6
01-18-2012, 10:22 PM
Are those for your car?

Hazwan
01-18-2012, 10:47 PM
Nope. Theres nothing available for my car haha!

Its off an Evo III and obviously it won't fit without a lot of work :D

What I did is remove the bottom mounts since its threaded in and mount it directly into my spindle.

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/400839_10150498201387106_724677105_8996793_2052049 323_n.jpg

Close enough
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/393964_10150498201577106_724677105_8996794_4169487 76_n.jpg

So much shorter
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/400317_10150498201667106_724677105_8996795_1990794 839_n.jpg

Bottom machined and theres still a lot of material left
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/404334_10150498202012106_724677105_8996798_1140183 737_n.jpg

Christofur
01-18-2012, 11:42 PM
very nice. now lets see em on the car on the ground :thumbup:

AccordB20A
01-19-2012, 01:32 AM
oh how creative!!!

Hazwan
01-19-2012, 01:32 AM
Car is on the ground now but its on the same ride height like it used to as the stupid header is hitting the axle now LOL. I gotta get that fixed and soon I shall be LOWARRRRRRRRRRRRR.

But FUCK my ride quality is just amazing LOL. Going from 3-4 coils off cut springs and stock blown struts to this is like riding a BMW now hahahahah!

Did I mention that I can go at least another 2 inch lower too?

Hazwan
01-19-2012, 01:32 AM
double post wut

Hazwan
01-19-2012, 07:02 AM
oh how creative!!!

You <3 the mitsi part :D

Anyway here are some moar PICS!

Reused upper spring perch and top mount. They fit but I might get a camber plate made eventually as the springs are mounted about 2" lower than it should be using this setup. Every inch counts!
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/406854_10150498714122106_724677105_8998321_3138186 23_n.jpg

Its on!
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/394861_10150498715297106_724677105_8998324_5259626 90_n.jpg

Gotta fine tune the right height and such. I'm surprised at how easy everything goes.

Now heres hoping that this wont happen to me :ugh:
http://www.toysport.com/IMGP0502.jpg

I'm gonna be fine right? right??????

2ndGenGuy
01-19-2012, 02:20 PM
I would think as long as that strut is designed to be used in a MacStrut setup, it should be strong enough. I don't know if a strut in a double-wishbone configuration would have to be a strong, since the control arms prevent any movement of the wheel... Looks great man, I knew you could do it. ;)

Hazwan
01-19-2012, 02:56 PM
Yeah I was thinking of going with the struts off an EG or something but decided against it since the shaft is so tiny compared to what I have now. But I'm just worried since I've took quite a bit of materials down there.

I didn't really measure the before and after but I can honestly say I've took off about 3mm max and half of it is just the threads and I think the threads doesn't count as the body rigidity no? Please say no LOL. But theres still about 3mm left so I don't know :facepalm:

obdriver6
01-19-2012, 07:00 PM
You should be fine! Like 2ndgenguy said, if its design that way it should be strong enough. That guy probably hit a curb or a big hole!

Hash_man_Se_i
01-19-2012, 08:23 PM
Good work man! looks like it should be a nice suspension setup

dark_accord
01-20-2012, 01:48 AM
me gusta. now just need to work on the moar low

PDXAccord79
01-20-2012, 03:21 PM
How are you doing the back? If this works I'll be doing it to my 79!

Hazwan
01-20-2012, 06:26 PM
I'll figure out another way since the Evo's rear struts are way too small and too tall to fit. It should be similar to the front anyway since the design is similar (Y)

gfrg88
01-20-2012, 06:35 PM
where the hell are the pics of said car?! :hs:

Hazwan
01-20-2012, 07:04 PM
Haha nothing to see, its still on the same height as the old one. I need to fix my pass axle hitting the header before I can go any lower (N)

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/399469_10150502200877106_724677105_9007077_1333782 247_n.jpg

Honda Man
01-22-2012, 01:23 AM
I've seen for a while that you have been dying to go low for a while and now you have the chance. Its going to look sick when its lowered. I've always wanted to see what a first gen looks like slammed. Good work so far, your almost there man!

gfrg88
01-22-2012, 08:40 AM
Pics of your car never get old.. no matter how many times we've seen them!! I should start looking around for a nice clean 1st gen!! :D

2ndGenGuy
01-23-2012, 11:28 AM
Now do the rears!

Hazwan
01-24-2012, 10:48 PM
I've seen for a while that you have been dying to go low for a while and now you have the chance. Its going to look sick when its slammed. I've always wanted to see what a first gen looks like slammed. Good work so far, your almost there man!

Thanks! Gotta get the header issue fixed first before I can go lower!


Pics of your car never get old.. no matter how many times we've seen them!! I should start looking around for a nice clean 1st gen!! :D

Do it :D


Now do the rears!

As soon as I have the money, and when I got the horrendous bump steer fixed D:

79cord
01-25-2012, 05:48 AM
Great to see the progress.
Always looked gorgeous low but so much better when it doesn't cripple the cars dynamics.
Makes my temptations to buy some cheap old mk1 Golf front struts (just to try) seem silly.

Re bump-steer
I wonder if there are different types of steering tie-rod end mountings available so that it could be mounted to the underside of the knuckle, instead of top, without irreversibly drilling out the tapered mounting holes to taper them the opposite way.

Hazwan
01-25-2012, 06:58 AM
Re bump-steer
I wonder if there are different types of steering tie-rod end mountings available so that it could be mounted to the underside of the knuckle, instead of top, without irreversibly drilling out the tapered mounting holes to taper them the opposite way.

Exactly what I thought! Looks like I gotta do another junkyard run to see what fits and stuffs haha.

A18A
01-25-2012, 03:23 PM
I thought I already posted in this thread, I guess I haven't yet. Oh well, I'm posting in it now :D

MessyHonda
01-26-2012, 08:50 PM
low low low 1st gen is looking great.

rustlude87
01-26-2012, 09:36 PM
OMG this is purely amazing, you sir are a genius!

amirul
01-28-2012, 06:19 AM
cant wait for the new rear setting

gfrg88
01-28-2012, 09:42 AM
god. I always come in here and drool over your car.

In for more pics!! :D

Hazwan
01-28-2012, 09:36 PM
god. I always come in here and drool over your car.

In for more pics!! :D

Heres your PICS!


























http://i.imgur.com/Ic6pY.jpg

Honda Man
01-28-2012, 11:42 PM
Pics of your car never get old.. no matter how many times we've seen them!! I should start looking around for a nice clean 1st gen!! :D

X2 DEF!

So let's say I wanted to import one of these sexy 1st gens (RHD FTW) to the US. How much would it cost to at least buy a beatup one?

Hazwan
01-29-2012, 06:33 AM
X2 DEF!

So let's say I wanted to import one of these sexy 1st gens (RHD FTW) to the US. How much would it cost to at least buy a beatup one?

More than you can afford pal...

hondalude86
01-29-2012, 08:18 AM
Dude, im assuming this is how far this car has come, amazing!

Honda Man
01-29-2012, 02:28 PM
More than you can afford pal...

Hmmm.....smaoke em'.....
Haha nice. Seriously though, I've always been so jelly of your car and I want one really bad

Hazwan
01-31-2012, 03:31 AM
I have no idea how much they gonna be haha sorry. Trade me with a real LHD USDM 1g? :p

Anyway so using the stock 1g strut mounts appears to be a fail idea since its been making a lot of weird noises and the springs doesnt sit properly on the top perch. My strut bearings are failing anyway so I figured, why not make the stock Evo mounts to fit?

Check out my super accurate method of making a template for the Evo's mount
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/422537_10150525532632106_724677105_9073846_4635138 80_n.jpg

New hole drilled on the strut tower
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/405426_10150525532767106_724677105_9073847_1183387 384_n.jpg

IT FITS!!!11
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/429939_10150525532862106_724677105_9073848_1835701 662_n.jpg

I'm gonna add a plate under the mounts so they would fit between the plates and the strut towers. I'll get pics of that later
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/421469_10150525533002106_724677105_9073849_6557925 42_n.jpg

A lot shorter now
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/423486_10150525533137106_724677105_9073850_6167185 32_n.jpg

Compared to this:
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/406854_10150498714122106_724677105_8998321_3138186 23_n.jpg

Does it work? Yes. A LOT better since the bearings in these mounts are much superior than the lame ass needle bearings on the stock 1g mounts. Steering feels so much lighter and a lot better now. The noises are gone. And I actually mounted the passenger side mount further back to compensate for my screwed up caster from the tweaked frame (N) But hey it drives straight and better now. My 'eyelignment' seems to work just fine :p

I'll keep an eye on them and see if mounting them like this is gonna affect anything. I doubt that it would though considering the Evos have them mounted the same way but like I said, I'll make a sandwich plate between the mounts and the strut towers or get the old holes welded shut or something.

Also, car is about half inch lower now. Sorry I just have to :p

Honda Man
01-31-2012, 10:06 AM
Alright I'm going to take you up on that so when I find one I'm shipping it to you with a quickness. :) carzy stuff with the coilovers. You made it look so easy to do man. Hella good work....now fix the header problem so you can SLAM It!

Hazwan
01-31-2012, 07:40 PM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/407517_10150527247442106_724677105_9077806_2503049 06_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/417930_10150527247812106_724677105_9077807_1905069 179_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/429790_10150527248532106_724677105_9077809_1759812 874_n.jpg

Poor fender
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429764_10150527248182106_724677105_9077808_1185366 653_n.jpg

AccordB20A
01-31-2012, 08:42 PM
damn get some more caster boy

Honda Man
01-31-2012, 08:52 PM
Dam that looks a lot beter man. I'm jelous. id say do a pic of the side of the car to show how flush it is and how the wheel stick out. that is some badassness right there!

hondalude86
02-01-2012, 06:33 PM
dude, this looks great! very genious! (Y)

Nicktorius
02-02-2012, 12:15 PM
Looks great... those tires are too beefy though!

obdriver6
02-02-2012, 03:14 PM
damn get some more caster boy

YES MOAR CASTER!!!... looks good btw!

edit: I hella space out, yeah I meant camber!

Hazwan
02-02-2012, 05:59 PM
Caster wut?

hondalude86
02-02-2012, 08:40 PM
I think what you heed is more camber! Its what tilts the tires inwards

Hazwan
02-02-2012, 11:46 PM
Yeah I figured haha. Funny how they mentioned that. My caster settings are messed up on both sides from the tweaked frame (N) But I've compensated the difference with moving the strut mount back so it would be parallel with both sides. (My passenger strut tower, crossmember mounting points as well as the wheel has moved back about an inch compared to the driver's side.)

Drives straight and fine now so I guess I can't complain.

PDXAccord79
02-04-2012, 10:41 AM
You should try and roll those fenders with a bat or metal pipe. It should flare them out a bit in the process.

What year Evo are these off of? This is very temping to do to mine now that I know that the strut mount works.

AccordB20A
02-04-2012, 02:07 PM
i meant caster. wheel is way too far back in the guard for my likings :P

hondalude86
02-04-2012, 02:36 PM
caster really is just the axis that the turning wheel pivots on... I do know that to adjust the axis most cars really force the lower control arm back or deflect from the "zero" point. But in this case he would be heavy positive therefore needing less positive caster. Remember, you can't have negative caster (although it seems like you could) but when you look at his wheel turned out, it doesn't seem to have that much caster...hmmm,
there is an inherient increase of caster when lowing a vehicle, and its possible that it isn't possible to change this on his car, since its macpherson strut, or at least for it to look normal in the fender wheel, but really i think this is what he was trying to correct with the modification of the top hat placement for the strut. Without adjustable tophats i think he is stuck with what he has...
fwew, thinking about this whole thing makes my head hurt...I guess most of what i just talked about really only applies to my prelude...i think i have over generalized here...sorry if what i posted is completely wrong... Some one shed some light on this?

One thing is for sure though, I love me some positive caster, makes my car turn better, but damn hard to keep going straight...

Hazwan
02-04-2012, 04:21 PM
This is pretty much what happened to my crossmembers. And no, they are not bent. I had both of them replaced and my frame was bent (N)

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6990/effed.jpg

Hada compensate for the difference by bringing the right wheel back about 1cm or so and the left wheel up front about 1cm as well so they would be parallel to each other by adjusting the radius rod. That and the left side strut tower is bent too (moved about 1.5cm back) so right now my caster and possibly camber too is all messed up.

What I did was, I mounted the left side strut mount about 1cm further up front and the drivers side about 5mm back so they would be equal with both sides. Funny how it drives straight/fine now even with my 'eye'lignment done :p

I really would love to see what its like on the alignment rack tho. My dad told me to not get the frame straightened back as there are cases with older cars like this with hidden rust spots basically having the whole front end ripped off haha. These band aid fixes works as a dd, drives fine, it goes straight. steers fine even with the unequal caster o.O Not sure how it would work on the track but then I don't plan on doing that anytime soon, at least not with this car :D

BTW its off an early 90s lancer/Evos. Evo III to be exact, I'm not sure of the year?

edit: its early in the morning so I'm sorry if I don't make any sense at all in this reply kthx

EM1 ADCT
02-10-2012, 07:14 AM
I read this and I want to hug you......in a none homo kinda way. haha. U sir are a genius!

I just located all four Koni Insertable Struts for my ludes housings and I think I'm going to keep the cut springs but hope for a better ride quality with the Koni's. The difference in the cylinder size is amazing compared the preludes size.

Hazwan
02-10-2012, 08:25 AM
I lol'd. Can't wait to see yours slammed once again!

charliefowle03
04-05-2012, 10:49 AM
This is great innovation! I own a 2g, 83 sedan and Im struggling to figure a way out to drop the baby. I do not want to chop up these springs. Hazwan or anyone, could you reccomend to me any alternatives to lowering my 83? Are there any other coilovers from other vehicles that would match up correctly, with limited modifications,aka no welding..Thanks man ride looks fantastic!

Hazwan
04-20-2012, 09:05 AM
I'm not familiar with 2g suspension design but I am pretty sure that they are similar to the 1g? Anyway I've looked around and it appears that most MacPherson coilovers have similar size to ours, try to find something like mine where the height is adjustable instead of just the lower spring perch so you can get them off and machine the bottom part to fit like what I did to mine (Y)

79cord
04-21-2012, 03:12 AM
So tempting.
2g top mounting has different top bolt pattern, bigger diameter spring winding & springs mounted on an angle on their struts but none of that should affect things too much.
Still wondering about swapping original or adjustable top mountings on struts, and mk 1 or 2 VW Golf struts - coilovers. Especially for 1st Preludes with their VW inspired top mountings.