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charliefowle03
06-04-2013, 08:38 PM
I have removerd the dreadful cluster from my 83 and now am read yto diagnose the malfunctioning fuel gauge and temp gauge. Neither of them work the Gas gauge light used to above 6 months ago but that was it. I am having no luck locating the circuit diagrams in the chilton. Anyone have any info they could give this way. Advice would be much appreciated! Per ushee picys!

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2ndGenGuy
06-05-2013, 10:21 PM
So, I know that those two gauges are powered and grounded on the same circuit. I think if you have a bad ground though, the ground goes through the gauge and they will peak out and then eventually burn out and no longer work. Was there ever a time when they were both gone up to max?

If I were you, I'd pick up one of these: Accord Honda Car Service Manual 1983 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Accord-Honda-car-service-manual-1983-/140989999669?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item20d3a8aa35&vxp=mtr)

I'm not sure if there was a separate electrical troubleshooting manual for 83 or not. But I know there was one for 1984.

2ndGenGuy
06-05-2013, 10:26 PM
This is from the 1984 Manual. But it should be pretty damn close, if not identical.

http://i.imgur.com/J0FcPYr.jpg

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charliefowle03
06-06-2013, 03:25 PM
This is from the 1984 Manual. But it should be pretty damn close, if not identical.

http://i.imgur.com/J0FcPYr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bzOGsAs.jpg


Ahhhh thats perfect! Right on thank you! I have pulled the physical meters in the cluster and i have some surprises.... MOARR PIciesss

charliefowle03
06-06-2013, 03:29 PM
When i purchased the vehicle, neither gauge functioned. The fuel light worked but only for a few weeks.. The owner noted that there was an electrical "fire" under the hood. I can see some wires were re loomed and replaced, but never investigated which ones fried. I have a feeling the two gauges were within this circuit and youll see by the pictures.... The

charliefowle03
06-06-2013, 03:31 PM
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charliefowle03
06-06-2013, 03:33 PM
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charliefowle03
06-06-2013, 03:38 PM
If you can see the little coil wire is fried and would like to know how to repair these guys. im assuming i could grab some wire at the hobby store or something.

Hazwan
06-07-2013, 06:31 PM
I think your best bet is to swap both gauges in a known working junkyard piece. Repairing them might be possible but its probably gonna be inaccurate or even work at all.

charliefowle03
06-07-2013, 06:56 PM
if only, if only there was a junkyard that had a darn 2g. Not a single place in ohio has one!

Dr_Snooz
06-07-2013, 07:36 PM
If you're going to geek out on your car (and pulling your dash apart to rewire the gauges is definitely geeking out), the OE Honda manual is the only way to go. :lol:

I've found the gauges are like soap bubbles. Touch 'em and they pop. I think your only real solution is to keep scavenging the yards until you find a 2g. In the mean time, keep a Christmas list of all the happy parts you need to get when you find one. You can also keep an eye on eBay to see if something comes up there.

charliefowle03
06-08-2013, 06:33 AM
If you're going to geek out on your car (and pulling your dash apart to rewire the gauges is definitely geeking out), the OE Honda manual is the only way to go. :lol:

I've found the gauges are like soap bubbles. Touch 'em and they pop. I think your only real solution is to keep scavenging the yards until you find a 2g. In the mean time, keep a Christmas list of all the happy parts you need to get when you find one. You can also keep an eye on eBay to see if something comes up there.

I see one on ebay for 60. i went ahead and picked it up before she dissapeared.

1983 Honda Accord Sedan Auto Speedometer 25K | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-HONDA-ACCORD-SEDAN-AUTO-SPEEDOMETER-25K-/380550683235)

charliefowle03
06-19-2013, 05:36 AM
Here we go more pictures!!!

I installed the cluster the same day i did the booster and master cylinder. Just because I couldnt wait to see if i would finally have a working fuel gauge!!

the pictures again, I will do my best to put them in a chronilogical order from installation. The replacement went verywell other than the small fact that i didnt notcie that this cluster must have come from a 5 speed and did not have the panel in the center for telling you which gear you were engaged in on an automatic transmission, So i had to do some minor modifications.. you will see in the pictures. I had to do a mad swap from the original cluster to the new old cluster. I also managed to drop 50K miles over night which was jdm-tastic! ;)

Enjoy!!

charliefowle03
06-19-2013, 05:37 AM
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charliefowle03
06-19-2013, 05:39 AM
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charliefowle03
06-19-2013, 05:40 AM
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charliefowle03
06-19-2013, 05:41 AM
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06-19-2013, 05:42 AM
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charliefowle03
06-19-2013, 05:43 AM
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06-19-2013, 05:43 AM
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2ndGenGuy
06-19-2013, 03:22 PM
Nice work! So the old gauges were just dead eh? Cool you were able to adapt the auto-position thingy to the new gauges. :)

charliefowle03
06-19-2013, 07:01 PM
Nice work! So the old gauges were just dead eh? Cool you were able to adapt the auto-position thingy to the new gauges. :)
Thank you, yeah i didnt even notice it didnt have it untill iinstalled it.As you see it in the pictures i was getting ready to put it in the dash then i realized it was missing something. Duhhh! Yeah it was as snap in component i just drilled the hole for the connector. in the back. my question to all is where does you normal operating temperature stand at. Mine is like a quarter of the way up when sitting in stopped traffic after driving around for awhile. I replaced my radiator bc it had a leak to fixed the minor overheating problem, it was at like 3/4 way up before. Is it normal to be 1/4 up. Isee these two small dots tucked away the cover thinking they are reference points for operating temp.Anyone know?? You cansee the dots in some of the close up pictures.

charliefowle03
06-19-2013, 07:11 PM
Nice work! So the old gauges were just dead eh? Cool you were able to adapt the auto-position thingy to the new gauges. :)

Yeah teh temp gauge and fuel gauge were burnt up./

Hazwan
06-19-2013, 11:18 PM
Nice work!

PDXAccord79
06-20-2013, 09:00 AM
On my 79 the fan kicks in 1/4 of the way up on the temp gauge every time so that sounds right.

2ndGenGuy
06-20-2013, 11:28 AM
Yeah, my 2g (though it uses different gauges) sits there, as does my 81. About 1/4 should be perfect. :)

charliefowle03
06-20-2013, 08:28 PM
Yeah, my 2g (though it uses different gauges) sits there, as does my 81. About 1/4 should be perfect. :)

phewww! finally something is normally functioning. its been pretty steady at 1/4. while on the freeway at 70 its around 1/8< not quite that low though. now i just need to get these calipers straightens out. 1 or maybe both are seizing up. the rotors are warped at this point got some good pulsation in the pedal while braking. and some steady vibration in the wheel at 65. 5 doing the shopping 100$ for calipers , 50$ for rotors, 15$ for pads. brings the total repair to.... ugh i have spent too much on my car this month... oh well im just grateful its running proper for now. need to do a valve cover gasket and possibly find the other spot where i mat be leaking some oil. does anyone have a center console for a 2g for salle. =?? just the shifter piece.

Hazwan
06-21-2013, 03:12 AM
I could get you the tape holder for a 2g if you want to.

As for the temp my 1g stays at 1/4 most of the time unless I stopped in traffic where it would creep to 1/2 before the fan would kick in and pretty much stayed between 1/4 and 1/2 but then its a 1g

charliefowle03
06-21-2013, 07:47 AM
I could get you the tape holder for a 2g if you want to.

As for the temp my 1g stays at 1/4 most of the time unless I stopped in traffic where it would creep to 1/2 before the fan would kick in and pretty much stayed between 1/4 and 1/2 but then its a 1g

i already have the tape holder. thank you Haz. i no longer have a proper piece that goes around the shifter. if possible it would be even better to get the console piece that holds the tape holder piece. but i can settle for the standard one. its just chopped up and mangeled at the moment and has been for awhile its really an eye sore for me. i need a donor 83 accord badly.

Hazwan
06-22-2013, 05:08 AM
I mean this piece :)

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charliefowle03
06-22-2013, 08:44 PM
I mean this piece :)

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Yaaahhh. Whatcha looking for $. . Plus shipping over the sea?

Hazwan
06-23-2013, 02:09 AM
Offer me a price. I have no idea how much shipping would be but probably not that much

charliefowle03
06-23-2013, 09:16 AM
Offer me a price. I have no idea how much shipping would be but probably not that much

What's the zip round those parts? I ran a little dummy test at ups... 150$ to ship?? My zip is 43224 United States.

2ndGenGuy
06-24-2013, 01:43 PM
Never have seen that tape holder before. Doesn't have the slot for the EQ. Must be an 82-83 thing.

Hazwan
06-24-2013, 02:51 PM
It's made tyte JDM yo

charliefowle03
06-25-2013, 09:30 AM
It's made tyte JDM yo

Is the jdmness still functional in the cup holders?