VIPER1988's 87 hatch

[VIPER1988]

Finally get to start working on my hatch. This will be a long, slow going build as I am currently unemployed.

Things to do:
1. Rebuild engine
2. 5-speed swap
3. Poly bushings all around
4. Paint/restore/replace exterior trim
5. Get seats reupholstered
6. Replace crumbly dash with less crumbly dash
7. I don't know yet. But I'm sure I'll find something else i want to do.

This is my new dd while the hatch is down.
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96k miles. New michelin tires. Got it for free.:rockon:

Hatch parked in her new temporary home.. My basement...
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[VIPER1988]

@#*%ing attachment limit...

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Barely squeezed her through the door. About 1\2 inch clearance on each side. :eek5:

[VIPER1988]

Got most of the auto interior stuff removed today. One last bolt holding the shifter assembly on. Have to remove the exhaust before i can get to it.

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[Dr_Snooz]

Hatch parked in her new temporary home.. My basement...

Dang. That's gangsta right there.

Good luck with the build.

[VIPER1988]

Lol. Well I don't have a garage and my driveway is to steep to really be able to work on.

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[VIPER1988]

Finished removing at shifter. Cleaned and painted mt pedal assembly and shifter assembly. Drained all fluids and started removing and disconnecting stuff to pull engine.

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[VIPER1988]

Think I found my front left vibration problem. Or at least part of it.
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Radius rod is loose.

Don't think I will be lowering it... ever...
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Found grass, dirt, and rocks in several places.
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Hard to tell from the pic but oil pan is dented in about 3/4 inch on the bottom.
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[VIPER1988]

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Several other dents and scraps on bottom of car. Think i need some stiffer struts and springs.

Finally got around to pulling the motor.
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Not much room to work with. Would have been much easier if I had some help to. But I made due with what I had.

Got a bunch of the parts ordered.
Full engine rebuild kit including pistons
dc header from nswst8
unorthodox flywheel from military mase
exedy clutch kit
full set of prothane bushings
magnaflow catalytic converter

And before I could order the rest my water heater decided it was going to rust through and flood the basement... Just my luck...

[Tdurr]

deff is gangster you got it in ur basement! I would love to have that done here. but nice work on getting the motor pulled. you just doing a frest oem rebuild or you going to do something fancy?

[VIPER1988]

oem with this one. Hopefully next year I will be able to get started on the other. Other motor will still be n/a but will have every performance part I can find on it. Only things this one is getting are dc header, cai, lightweight flywheel, and basic rebuild. And doing 5 speed swap while I have it out. I would save the flywheel for the other motor, but its the only one I have.

[VIPER1988]

Go figure. I need a new radiator. One I have was bought from Honda in 2004 with a lifetime warranty. "Sorry, that part has been discontinued. We can't exchange it for you."

[Civic Accord Honda]

fun project looks fun! i want a basement with a car in it!!!!!!!!!!!!

that cb7 is super clean!!! how did u manage to find a stock unmolested cb7 for free?!

[VIPER1988]

lol. Got it from mother in law. Only thing that's been done to it is a cheap eBay full stainless exhaust system. Old exhaust looked like swiss cheese. lol

[VIPER1988]

Finally back at it. Rebuilt the motor. Forgot to take pics in the process. Its just about ready to go back in. Still need a few things. Unfortunately the project is being cut short. Wife gave the 91 4door to her dad. So i have to get this back on the road asap. Going to finish the motor rebuild and 5speed swap for now. Everything else will have to wait.

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[2drSE-i]

Looking good! Keep at it.

[Dr_Snooz]

Yay!

[VIPER1988]

Got more done today. Put wire harness and rest of accessories on the motor, removed and cleaned front suspension parts, and got most of the dash back in. Will add pics tomorrow. Wish i could find a dash thats not so brittle. Cracked in several places. Most wont be noticeable once everything is in. But still... Cant do any more until i get some $. Need nut for radius rod, 2 exhaust manifold studs, old bushings pressed out of lca, bolts for flywheel and pressure plate, starter, and rear mount bracket for manual trans. (Left mine in Florida:uh:)

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[VIPER1988]

Any bright ideas for fixing my glove box? Tried jb weld. Didn't hold
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[Dr_Snooz]

I haven't done it, but would plastic welding work?

[Hazwan]

If done properly, plastic welding should be as strong as it was before

[VIPER1988]

Tried plastic model glue. Guy at the hobby shop said it melts the plastic together. Letting it dry over night. Suppose i will find out tomorrow how strong it is. Went to Fastenal and got most of the nuts and bolts i need. Only things they didn't have were the flywheel bolts and the nut for the radius rod. Friday i will be Checking the Pullapart for the rest of the stuff i need.

[VIPER1988]

Well the model glue seems to be working well. Loaded glove box with tools and opened and closed it several times. Didn't break. Replaced all the front bushing with Prothane. Strangest thing with the suspension. Everything on passenger side was tightened proper and the bushings were in fairly good condition considering age. Driver side everything was loose and the bushings were pretty much gone. What would cause such a drastic difference from one side to the other? Removed 2/3 broken exhaust manifold studs. Third one the extractor broke off inside of...:rocket: Tried drilling it out to retap it. But because of the extractor piece stuck in it the drill bit wouldn't stay centered. So hopefully it won't leak. I don't have money for another head right now.

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Need to clean this up with some brake cleaner when i get it back outside.
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[VIPER1988]

Just realized that i never posted my brake and interior updates from a year or 2 ago. Did rear disk swap with EBC goldline rotors and green stuff pads all around. Replaced rubber lines with braided steel. Replaced factory blown out struts with Gabriel Ultra. Replaced worn out blue carpet with new black carpet. Added armrest and cupholder.
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Had front calipers painted to match the back. But both were leaking when i started bleeding them. So i had to get new ones and didn't have enough paint left.
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[Dr_Snooz]

Cool stuff!

[VIPER1988]

Went to the pullapart. Got rear mount bracket and flywheel bolts. Installed unorthodox flywheel and exedy clutch, mounted transmission, installed alt. and dropped it all back in the car. Exchanged passenger axle under warranty. Still need starter, driver cv axle, battery, and all fluids. Hopefully next week she will be back on the road.

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[lostforawhile]

Just realized that i never posted my brake and interior updates from a year or 2 ago. Did rear disk swap with EBC goldline rotors and green stuff pads all around. Replaced rubber lines with braided steel. Replaced factory blown out struts with Gabriel Ultra. Replaced worn out blue carpet with new black carpet. Added armrest and cupholder.
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Had front calipers painted to match the back. But both were leaking when i started bleeding them. So i had to get new ones and didn't have enough paint left.
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what brand carpet, andhow was the fit?

[VIPER1988]

Don't remember the brand. Will have to find the receipt. The mold they used didn't have the ducts that run down under the seats. Little work with a heat gun fixed that. Other than that, the rest fit perfect. I got it with their "mass backing" option. Helped a lot with road noise. Its a lot thicker and heavier than factory.

[lostforawhile]

Don't remember the brand. Will have to find the receipt. The mold they used didn't have the ducts that run down under the seats. Little work with a heat gun fixed that. Other than that, the rest fit perfect. I got it with their "mass backing" option. Helped a lot with road noise. Its a lot thicker and heavier than factory.
I dont have the underseat heat ducts, so no big deal, auto carpet originals went out of business or something

[VIPER1988]

This is where i got it 86-89 Honda Accord Carpet 2 Door or Hatchback 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 (http://www.stockinteriors.com/AutoCarpet.asp?Itemid=6415&MakeId=10&ModelId=231)
None of the holes are cut out and all of the edges are too long and have to be trimmed. But it fits quite well. I got the ultra plush with the mass backing. They will also send you samples so you can see/feel the difference and match colors.

[lostforawhile]

This is where i got it 86-89 Honda Accord Carpet 2 Door or Hatchback 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989 (http://www.stockinteriors.com/AutoCarpet.asp?Itemid=6415&MakeId=10&ModelId=231)
None of the holes are cut out and all of the edges are too long and have to be trimmed. But it fits quite well. I got the ultra plush with the mass backing. They will also send you samples so you can see/feel the difference and match colors.
it was missing the blue plastic edge clips right? I saved my old ones because I figured an aftermarket carpet would have them missing, and the holes missing is great as so much is different on mine anyway

[VIPER1988]

It did not come with edge clips. Had to reuse my old ones. Here are a few better pics w/o front seats and floor mats
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Got the rest of my interior put back together. Now just waiting on money for driver side axle, starter, battery, and fluids.
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[lostforawhile]

my back seats are unusable for anything but kids now anyway, with the battery box on one side and the vacuum tank on the other, now I know what those holes in the seat frames are for, forgot the lxi has vents to the back, they would make nice wire runs if I could find some

[VIPER1988]

If I ever make it back down to Florida I will grab the one out of my parts car. Wish I had it here. My car would be on the road already if I did.

[VIPER1988]

Got a few more parts. Driver side axle, spark plugs, oil & filter. Hopefully next week i will be able to get the starter, battery, and the rest of the fluids. At least its back on its wheels.
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[VIPER1988]

Finally back on the road. Trans is a little rough. Hopefully its from sitting dry for the past 5 years and will smooth out as I drive it more. Pgm-fi came on with code 12. Will not idle if A/c is on. So I still have a bit of tinkering to do. But it made it to and from town (15 miles each way) with no major issues. Basement seems huge without the car in it lol.

Not sure if someone wants to add this to the 5speed swap how to. But, I didn't have to ground the pink wire for cruise to work. I had a plug dangling under the dash already for the clutch switch. Plugged that in and cruise works as its supposed to. Turns off with brake or clutch.

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[VIPER1988]

Got a few more things done. Replaced one of the small coolant hoses on the intake(had a pin hole in it), replaced egr valve(still get code 12)(Solved, clogged vacuum chamber), and adjusted the idle. Still likes to die at idle with a/c on sometimes. Not as bad as it was tho. Next I need to track down a battery draw. Brand new Diehard gold battery goes dead after 2 days of sitting.

[Dr_Snooz]

http://www.3geez.com/forum/3geez-accords/84090-parasitic-draw-battery.html

[lostforawhile]

Got a few more things done. Replaced one of the small coolant hoses on the intake(had a pin hole in it), replaced egr valve(still get code 12)(Solved, clogged vacuum chamber), and adjusted the idle. Still likes to die at idle with a/c on sometimes. Not as bad as it was tho. Next I need to track down a battery draw. Brand new Diehard gold battery goes dead after 2 days of sitting.
check the auto tensioners for the seatbelts in the doors, you have the doors with the belts hanging off them right? the pre tensioner solenoids end up staying on and killing the battery, common problem

[VIPER1988]

http://www.3geez.com/forum/3geez-accords/84090-parasitic-draw-battery.html


check the auto tensioners for the seatbelts in the doors, you have the doors with the belts hanging off them right? the pre tensioner solenoids end up staying on and killing the battery, common problem

Thanks for the info. My seat belts are in the pillars tho. Not the doors. Have to find a new fuse for my multimeter before I can check anything.

[lostforawhile]

Thanks for the info. My seat belts are in the pillars tho. Not the doors. Have to find a new fuse for my multimeter before I can check anything.

ok, the change to the door belts happened sometimes in 87, so I wasnt sure which ones you had, you lucked out and got regular belts

[VIPER1988]

Guess I must have left a door open or something. Battery hasn't died on me again. Still haven't figured out why a/c causes it to die at idle. An old knee injury is making it difficult and painful to drive the 5speed. So unfortunately I will be putting the auto box back in. All the 5speed parts will be for sale after the swap is done. Will make a separate thread with pics.

[Dr_Snooz]

Well that sucks. The upside is that the 3g autos are great transmissions. They are very responsive and almost psychic about knowing what you'll want them to do. You really have to be a die-hard purist to justify a swap.

[VIPER1988]

I've always preferred manual trans. 8 out of 11 cars I've owned have been manual. About 2 years ago I slipped off a metal roof and ripped my left knee down to the bone. Highway driving isn't bad, but the stop and go traffic in town gets painful. I need to have the auto trans rebuilt at some point. Leaks at case seams and the shifts are on the slow side. Not half bad for 356k miles.

[87hbdxftw!!!]

I have that same problem with mine :(

[Dr_Snooz]

I've always preferred manual trans. 8 out of 11 cars I've owned have been manual. About 2 years ago I slipped off a metal roof and ripped my left knee down to the bone. Highway driving isn't bad, but the stop and go traffic in town gets painful. I need to have the auto trans rebuilt at some point. Leaks at case seams and the shifts are on the slow side. Not half bad for 356k miles.

I just finished working on a steep pitch metal roof today. As I sat up there, I war-gamed how I would ride it down should I fall off. The house is surrounded by pine needles, so the landing would be okay. The ride down, over sharp bolts, was much less okay. Thank god I finished before reading your post.

[VIPER1988]

Haven't been on here in a while. Been Busy. Both kids in school (off for summer now), new job, new car... Put about 13k miles on the 3gee since the engine rebuild. Runs like a champ. Shes been moved to "Project on hold" status. lol. Will be a few years before I can afford to do anything.

Just got this yesterday

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Sorry for crappy cell phone pics. Haven't been able to find the good camera.

[MessyHonda]

wow that coupe is just sexy

[VIPER1988]

:D Will be even more sexy in a few weeks. Ordered some accessories and taking it to get windows tinted on Wednesday. :D

[VIPER1988]

Got windows tinted and added splash guards. They don't have factory window visors for the coupes. wtf...

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[conozo]

I have a good rebuilt automatic transmission that you can have for free for your project car. I'm in northern Indiana.

[VIPER1988]

Free is always nice. :) No clue when i will be going that far north again tho.

Hmmm. Thinking the 3g might look good the the same color blue as the new one. Maybe

[conozo]

I just drove right by your town a few weeks ago, i could have dropped it off, but i didn't know about this thread.

I like the coup and the color. That blue may be too much blue for a 80's car, but any new paint would look awesome.

[MessyHonda]

whats up with honda coupes and visors. seams hard to find some. hope someone makes some aftermaket ones.

[VIPER1988]

There are aftermarket ones. But the stick on ones look like s*** and the in-channel ones put a lot of extra strain on the window motors from what I've been reading.

[VIPER1988]

New car is paid off now. Hopefully i will be able to resume work on the hatch pretty soon. In between jobs atm. First order of business will prob be pads and rotors all around. Sitting outside for 2 years hasn't been kind to them. I still drive it occasionally. Has antique plate now so I'm restricted to weekends, holidays, and car shows. Brought my parts car up from Florida finally. if anyone needs any parts that are easy to ship from an 87 hatch let me know.

[Honda#1]

New car is paid off now. Hopefully i will be able to resume work on the hatch pretty soon. In between jobs atm. First order of business will prob be pads and rotors all around. Sitting outside for 2 years hasn't been kind to them. I still drive it occasionally. Has antique plate now so I'm restricted to weekends, holidays, and car shows. Brought my parts car up from Florida finally. if anyone needs any parts that are easy to ship from an 87 hatch let me know.

Every day is a car show when driving it. And any day is a holiday when driving an 87 hatch since our cars are extremely rare to see and when you see one its like a holiday. Lol. Wow your state is super restrictive to driving car with an antique plate.

[VIPER1988]

very. but its a permanent plate. never have to register it again. and since getting the new one i only put 500-600 miles on it per year.

[InAccordance]

TN has antique plates? I've lived here most of my life and didn't know that lol
I've seen them on Virginia registered cars.
Also didn't know they were that restrictive. Learn something new every day.