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    Et2 Motor Build...

    So i posted in the Tech thread asking about the parts into an ET2. Well, i've taken the dive and have bought a whole slew of parts...

    Here is the quick rundown so far...

    Eagle Hbeam Forged Rods
    SRP 10.7 b18a/b pistons

    Bisimoto valve springs

    Nylon crank Scraper
    Trap door weld in oil pan baffle

    and an AEM Wideband O2 sensor...

    Pics to come as the parts from in...

    I also need parts for a Ford EDIS setup, I read 2ndgenguy's thread about his in his hatch, but any info on what to buy would be much appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Ryan



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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Oh yea, and i guess i should post what other things i have so far for the car...

    Dual Weber DCOE45s sidedrafts on a custom intake manifold
    S&S headers
    delta 285deg camshaft
    7lbs clutchnet flywheel
    Clutchnet carbon/kevlar sprung clutch disc
    Clutchnet Red 2x pressure plate

    That's as far as i can immediately remember thus far

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Ryan you need to talk to Cygnus he'll be best to supply brackets and gears for you as well as whole wealth of info on tuning and setting up probably provide some maps as well!!
    Don't paint the inside of the oil pan or you'll end up like mikes turbo lude with a dead engine the paint will come off at some point and then clog the oil pickup pipe in the pan leading to oil starvation!! Just make sure it's clean from any bit's of stray weld, and no rust and rub off any burnt bits of original paint. Sounds like a good build just make sure you don't get any valve contact between the pistons you may have to have the crowns moddified a little but hopefully the original valve pockets will be big and deep enough to cover what you have in your head! Whats the plans on the head anything special? Should get some good power out of this setup but junk the collector on the S&S chop it off and weld up at least a 2.25" main tube and flexi joint onto it but preferably 2.5" may well suit better if your shooting for over 200bhp. The setup you have and are planning will really struggle with the 2" collector, downpipe and flexi joint the rest of the system should match the collector so 2.25" or 2.5" depending on what you go with.
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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    I don't know if he's still doing it, but for a while Cygnus was mounting the trigger wheels on the A20/ET cranks and building brackets for the sensor. If he's still going it, pick up his setup! It's awesome and bolts on, and will save you a ton of work. I love the EDIS setup, it totally transforms how your car runs.

    As far as the Ford parts, they're off of a mid 90's Escort. I just went on eBay and searched for an EDIS-4 setup. It's usually dirt cheap, and you don't have to pull parts at the yard. The setup I got for $80 came with a coil pack, plug wires, trigger wheel, sensor, and EDIS module. You also need to buy a MegaJolt lite Jr to control it.

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Ok, I've ordered the MegaJolt Lite Jr, with the hard rev limiter installed, along with some shielded wire, and adapters to work with my computer... Now I just gotta get cygnus to message me back before i order the EDIS parts from egay

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Alright Rich, I wont be painting the inside of my pan i promise!
    After what happened with the motor, i'm pretty excited to be getting the money to finally start putting it all together... I've spent so much money in the last week that I'm really hoping for the best... HOWEVER, I doubt I'll be spending anymore money on the head. Right now its just stock valves and intake/exhaust ports Rustylude87 (jared) said i should port and polish it myself or at least play with the ports... We'll see... But right now, I'm hoping for 160ish Hp with the setup that i'll be running, knowing that the car could make more with some headwork done. my Long LONG term goal is a small turbo... Hence why i'm looking at the MAP based EDIS system.

    Question... My current manifold is ported between the two intakes (1,2 and 3,4) but on the bottom. Do you guys think i can just tee off of those two bottom vacuum lines and run that to a little plenum and then to the MegaJolt MAP sensor?

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Quote Originally Posted by hondalude86 View Post
    Question... My current manifold is ported between the two intakes (1,2 and 3,4) but on the bottom. Do you guys think i can just tee off of those two bottom vacuum lines and run that to a little plenum and then to the MegaJolt MAP sensor?
    That's exactly what the MegaJolt guide says to do. You want to try to get a nice smooth MAP signal from all the runners. Running them into a manifold to equalize the pressure is the best way to go about it, AFAIK.

    http://www.autosportlabs.net/MJLJ_V4...nsor_.28TPS.29

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Moved at user request. I really hope this build runs well.

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Thanks vanilla, i'm going to try and take some pictures today of my new goodies, i still have new stuff on the way, but i'll post the pics with the parts, so that everyone can enjoy them all on here too...

    Update, got the motor pulled and taken apart, still trying to find time to bring some beers over to the machine shop along with my crank!

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Nice... Really interesting. I should be starting my, very similar, build soon too. Keep us updated... Oh and pics or ban!!!
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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    what kind of gearing are you going to go with? any lsd for better grip

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    I'm running a stock gm1 transmission. No LSD yet. I'm not sure if there is diff that is a direct fit for the base model transmission

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    AEM UEGO


    BisiMoto Valve Springs


    Eagle H-beam Rods



    MegaJolt


    SRP Pistons 10.7:1


    Grip load of Ford EDIS-4 parts


    Gutted Motor


    Marred Rod journal on the crank

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Are those powdered rods?

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    sssiiickk!!!! nice seeing people doing builds like this one here!!!!
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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Quote Originally Posted by hondalude86 View Post
    I'm running a stock gm1 transmission. No LSD yet. I'm not sure if there is diff that is a direct fit for the base model transmission
    i know for the a20 the stock b16 lsd fits...i was thinking a OBX lsd is around 390 or a quaife/wavetrac that is around 900

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda View Post
    i know for the a20 the stock b16 lsd fits...i was thinking a OBX lsd is around 390 or a quaife/wavetrac that is around 900



    Damn, where the hell have I been!!!! I should've jumped back in the a20 scene a long time ago!!! There's soo much new shit around here!!! Fucking amazing
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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Quote Originally Posted by gfrg88 View Post



    Damn, where the hell have I been!!!! I should've jumped back in the a20 scene a long time ago!!! There's soo much new shit around here!!! Fucking amazing
    or you could go the cheap way and just buy mounts and drop a b

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    wait, there's mounts now????
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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Quote Originally Posted by gfrg88 View Post
    wait, there's mounts now????
    http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=18950

    yes...but i would much rather see this a20/et2 motor build

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda View Post
    http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=18950

    yes...but i would much rather see this a20/et2 motor build
    fffuuuuu... BUT if I were to do an engine swap, it would be something else


    And yes, I'm loving this build. And am still planning on building something very, very similar

    edit: sorry for hijacking your thread
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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Its ok... i don't mind the thread jacking... As far as the transmission thing goes, its awesome that a stock b16 lsd fits in an a20 trans... I've got two a18 trannsimissions and one a20 trans... so all i'd need is some dx/si drive shafts......

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Things like this make me wish I had a third gen Accord LX-i and money.

    Damn you!

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    Hmm.. quite excited to watch this. I will be doing a similar mini build on my ES1 with twin side draft carbs. Like everyone has said, please keep us appraised of developments with lots of pics!

    Z

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    Re: Et2 Motor Build...

    The pistons look interesting if the pins are not offset might be worth using them round the wrong way, so that the smaller valve cutouts are the inlet and the larger valve cutouts are for the exhaust, but if they are all the same done bother, but you will need to do some work to the valve reliefs even if it's to check you don't clunk them once the cam and valves go into your head! With that dome i think you could well be looking at a much higher CR ration than they list for the B18!! What diameter are they? Personally i prefer flat top pistons or ones with a slight dish but for the money they look pretty good and of course are lighter and stronger than stock ones!! don't forget you'll need more piston to wall clearance than with cast pistons and you'll need to do each one individually to get a nice snug fit per cylinder, and please use oversize rings to the bore size you are using and then hand gap them to racing specs if you need advice on the gap end sizes check with a blueprinting book or let me know and I'll see what they recommend.

    Are you going for bigger valves as well from SI or supertech using Smeado's setup?

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