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    Re: Warm restart issue

    i had the same problem about 2 years i could smell gas and the spark plugs was drenched in gas it was the ecu



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    Re: Warm restart issue

    Blister your tongue! That's a hard part to replace. Anyway, isn't it supposed to flash codes, or not blink the CEL at startup or something else? I don't suppose it would be the end of the world if I had to swap in a MegaSquirt controller or something. The car would probably be down for awhile though.

    I replaced the FPR tonight. The first start was very strong. That's been true of everything I've tried so far, so we'll see what happens over the next few weeks.

    On a brighter note, my last tank got over 30 MPG again. That doesn't sound very remarkable until you learn that it's AC mileage. Now you're impressed, right?
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    Re: Warm restart issue

    Oh, you're probably right. The starting is better, but nowhere near where it should be with the new FPR. Coming home tonight I noticed the charge light flashing at me from time to time. My volts gauge was reading pretty low too. The alternator only has 40k miles on it. It could be bad, but it could be another sign that my grounds need help. I'll try to get to that this weekend. I don't have any shortage of stuff to do, so we'll see.

    Anyway, I'll do the grounds and then the ECU if I'm stilling having trouble. The sucko part about that is the pool of ECUs isn't exactly wonderful. I've tried two different ECUs in this car before and both were bad. There are dozens of ECUs on eBay, but there's no way of knowing whether they work. I'd prefer to have my existing ECU reconditioned. If that's even possible.
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    Re: Warm restart issue

    I had to do something, so I added another wire from the chain hook on the intake to the shock tower mount. I didn't have a heavy gauge crimper, so I used a hammer to crimp the connectors like a proper hillbilly would (crimper arrived tonight). The car starts and runs stronger and more consistently. Today was shopping day with several stops and it started strong each time.

    That's all great, but the charge light still winks at me. Now that I have the crimper I'll do the whole job professionally and we'll see what happens. Maybe I'll do a write-up. Maybe not. I have other things on my mind.




    I really don't want it to look like this when the rain starts
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    Re: Warm restart issue

    I have a #2 wire from the hook to the shock mount and no valve cover ground (its fugly who tf thought it was a good idea to put that there)... Are you sure your alternator is good because thats really what this is sounding like... unless your bat-body ground is shit too.

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    Re: Warm restart issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    I had to do something, so I added another wire from the chain hook on the intake to the shock tower mount. I didn't have a heavy gauge crimper, so I used a hammer to crimp the connectors like a proper hillbilly would (crimper arrived tonight). The car starts and runs stronger and more consistently. Today was shopping day with several stops and it started strong each time.

    That's all great, but the charge light still winks at me. Now that I have the crimper I'll do the whole job professionally and we'll see what happens. Maybe I'll do a write-up. Maybe not. I have other things on my mind.




    I really don't want it to look like this when the rain starts
    Someone stole your siding?

    I would carry your meter and do some voltage checks and see whats what.
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    Re: Warm restart issue

    I managed to get it all done last weekend. I had company and any work on the siding went straight out the window, so to speak, which left time to do the Big 3 upgrade. Every start since has been strong. Hot, cold, whatever. It's all been great. The car is almost back to its old 2 cranks and fire routine. It also seems to run a little stronger, smoother and more consistent too. I'm going to call this one solved (again. LOL). The charge light still winks at me though. Probably more ground stuff that I'll dig into at some point.

    This was a fun one for sure. I did a lot of Easter egging, changing coil, injectors, sensors, wires, FPR, etc. Of that list though, the only things I felt like I didn't need were the coil and TW sensor. Everything else had been on my mind. The parts were all really old, as in original '89 vintage stuff. I kept wondering how much longer they'd go, and how I would know when they failed. (A few other items on my mind still are the suspension bushings, shocks and springs.)

    Anyway, here's the hillybilly auxiliary ground that got removed.



    This is garbage. The broken strand didn't show up in the photo, for some reason.


    Yummy new wires!


    Installed:


    You can see how I changed the routing on this ground. I had to scrape off some paint to do it, but I think this is a much stronger ground point than that little piece of wire on the valve cover.






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    Re: Warm restart issue

    I would carry your meter and do some voltage checks and see whats what.
    I installed a volt gauge for precisely that reason!

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    Someone stole your siding?


    Nah. Some big idiot named Dr_Snooz tore it off. Would you believe that the first month after I moved in, I walked around back and leaned against the siding. It was so rotted that my hand went through. Here it is 8 (as in EIGHT!!!!) years later and I still haven't managed it. FML

    I did manage to get this wall completed though:



    Almost looks legit, no?
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    Re: Warm restart issue

    Looks good.

    What guage wire did you go with?

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    Re: Warm restart issue

    I went with 4 gauge for a very scientific reason: that's all O'Reilly had in stock LOL. Basically I could get everything I needed at one go. It helps that the factory battery cables are 4 gauge too.

    Did my shopping tonight and every start was epic. Super strong, no drama at all. Even the power windows roll down faster; the cruise is more consistent. Yay!!

    I really like the battery terminals too. There's always a few electrical items you want to add on to any car, but when you go to connect them to the battery, the attachment is awkward and you end up with a scrambled mess. The single post makes additional attachments easy. Also, the wing nuts make battery disconnections (for all the time I spend working on it) easy. I think the setup is going to work very well.
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