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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    most want surgery to make it bigger not smaller.
    haha yea true but i just wanna go faster.... and even if i do end up doing this D series which i doubt i will it would only be temp for about a year or soo but i might bypass this whole thing and just put an ls motor as i said before tho im afriad its just gunna end up costing me a shitload of money thats my main concern



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    Re: D Series Swap...

    I'm not here to shit on you, but I'll put in what i know.

    D motors, for the amount of work involved to swap into our cars, just isn't worth it, unless you go for a crazy build.

    Now when people say "No replacement for displacement" (Not picking on you tomismo) I tend to react. Even our motors are putting out 60 HP per Liter. Compare that to a chevy big block, and we kick their asses.

    Now, on to fast D's vs. Fast B's. Yes, displacement is a disadvantage. But the D Motors have a FAR superior head configuration, as well as combustion chamber, and have just as much potential for power. See the Bisimoto 700HP D build. Yes, extreme for a daily driver, but a daily driver none-the-less.

    Not to take anything away from B/H/K/J/CDEFG motors, plenty of them making CRAZY power too. Also, tomismo is right in saying that not many people play with D motors like that. Its WAY easier to go with a "better" motor.
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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomisimo View Post
    1% od Dseries beats B/Hseries,
    99% B/H series beats 99% D series..

    now thats tru. Im sure there is some but far less ppl stupid anough to spend awfull load of money on SOCK 1.6l
    actually there are far more faster Ds then you would think... It cheaper in the long run to build a D if you have a civic for one... No need to buy expensive mounts, and building a 400hp turbo monster D is alot cheaper then building a 300hp B and buying mounts and shit...

    and why is ok for people with 2.0s to knock on a 1.6 , but when someone with a 5.0 knocks on a 2.0 you guys rage like theres no tomorrow ... seriously getting tired of reading this forum ...

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    thank you.. now u seem to know what ur talking about haha now im gunna ask you guys this if you dont mind.. whats the best bang for the buck for me to just to take my a20a3 and build that... or put a B18 in my car these have been the 3 things ive been considering and since u guys seem to strongly disagree with the D series (thanks for helping BTW) soo those are my 2 choices im left with

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    since the mounts are apparently made for the B and the A has no aftermarket just swap in a B and your be happier (btw you better be good at wiring or wanting to learn and i hope you have another car to drive while the accord is down)

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by Civic Accord Honda View Post
    since the mounts are apparently made for the B and the A has no aftermarket just swap in a B and your be happier (btw you better be good at wiring or wanting to learn and i hope you have another car to drive while the accord is down)
    alright thanks man youve been a lot of help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insane43 View Post
    alright thanks man youve been a lot of help
    haha omg, i think he may put this in his sig as you're probably the only person to ever say this ever!
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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by Civic Accord Honda View Post
    and why is ok for people with 2.0s to knock on a 1.6 , but when someone with a 5.0 knocks on a 2.0 you guys rage like theres no tomorrow ... seriously getting tired of reading this forum ...
    Because its one of the very few times our old accords have the bigger dick


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    Quote Originally Posted by Insane43 View Post
    alright thanks man youve been a lot of help
    no problem..

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    haha omg, i think he may put this in his sig as you're probably the only person to ever say this ever!
    LOL haha :P ive heard it a dozen times ... :P
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    Because its one of the very few times our old accords have the bigger dick


    My accord has a bigger dick then yours
    it also has a 4" gaping ass hole O_O

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by Civic Accord Honda View Post
    My accord has a bigger dick then yours
    it also has a 4" gaping ass hole O_O
    Oh dear, a bit stretched out is it? Did your accord go to jail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2drSE-i View Post
    Oh dear, a bit stretched out is it? Did your accord go to jail?
    Yep... Got ass raped by a bunch of V8s

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    mmm i so glad this is how my thread ended.... lol

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by Insane43 View Post
    mmm i so glad this is how my thread ended.... lol
    LOL yea sorry bud, this one went south pretty quick.
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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by 2drSE-i View Post
    Because its one of the very few times our old accords have the bigger dick


    na the bigger one is the one driving the rustang


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    i've always wanted to d-swap a 3g hatch because of all the haters here... i just would find it amusing.
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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by 2drSE-i View Post
    Now when people say "No replacement for displacement" (Not picking on you tomismo) I tend to react. Even our motors are putting out 60 HP per Liter. Compare that to a chevy big block, and we kick their asses.
    But a big block Chevy will still kick our asses. So who cares about Horsepower per Liter? I don't understand what relevance the HP/L has. I tend to agree with the "No replacement for displacement" saying, and have to back Tomismo's statement. Even look at the D-series, it needs all sorts of technology to give it as much power as the A-series (VTEC, 16 valves, etc).

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    I want to see a dodge neon motor swap, a 3g with big mopar stickers on it

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    indeed 2ndGenGuy.. our engines have the biggest disadvantage in the head, the ports are just to small and valves cant give it enough air, the same goes for B20a, in edition it has 4 more valves but the ports are still to small. Valves capable of suporting 270Hp on those but only with head port ex&in sides.
    Being a SOCH D16 is for the first its a short stroke engine, it just never will torq as A20. With proper headwork on A20 and stronger valves and if you manage to find cam bearings that are stronger it will rew up to 8-9k with no problems, just give it enough air.

    My conclusion is that if you have 1k USD on B18, then 400USD on axles, 400$ on clutch converter etc etc. total 2-2500 to spend on a proper build, then you can just as likely spend that money on A20 and boost it, it will be cheaper and stronger engine overall.

    Its prttey fnuny how you can raed tihs eintre snetnece with all tehse ellters out of palce...

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomisimo View Post
    indeed 2ndGenGuy.. our engines have the biggest disadvantage in the head, the ports are just to small and valves cant give it enough air, the same goes for B20a, in edition it has 4 more valves but the ports are still to small. Valves capable of suporting 270Hp on those but only with head port ex&in sides.
    Being a SOCH D16 is for the first its a short stroke engine, it just never will torq as A20. With proper headwork on A20 and stronger valves and if you manage to find cam bearings that are stronger it will rew up to 8-9k with no problems, just give it enough air.

    My conclusion is that if you have 1k USD on B18, then 400USD on axles, 400$ on clutch converter etc etc. total 2-2500 to spend on a proper build, then you can just as likely spend that money on A20 and boost it, it will be cheaper and stronger engine overall.
    plus there's some pride in these old iron block engines. and in owning an iron block Honda in general.

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by Insane43 View Post
    and i forgot to say its a D16y8 vtec with headers cold air intake
    get me the intake manifold and mayby the header

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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomisimo View Post
    indeed 2ndGenGuy.. our engines have the biggest disadvantage in the head, the ports are just to small and valves cant give it enough air, the same goes for B20a, in edition it has 4 more valves but the ports are still to small. Valves capable of suporting 270Hp on those but only with head port ex&in sides.
    Being a SOCH D16 is for the first its a short stroke engine, it just never will torq as A20. With proper headwork on A20 and stronger valves and if you manage to find cam bearings that are stronger it will rew up to 8-9k with no problems, just give it enough air.

    My conclusion is that if you have 1k USD on B18, then 400USD on axles, 400$ on clutch converter etc etc. total 2-2500 to spend on a proper build, then you can just as likely spend that money on A20 and boost it, it will be cheaper and stronger engine overall.

    see but the problem is, put 2500 into the a20 on all custom built parts, then one fails... have fun replacing it... i'm not arguing with your points but if bisimoto can build a 700hp d16 then you could really make an a20 go pretty fast... the whole point is for a casual tuner like myself, someone who's not always interested in going the fastest and being the most unique, the a20 lacks easy aftermarket like a b18, so in the end i'd rather build an LS motor and later on do an LS/VTEC built and possibly turbo it rather than going all out on an older engine and taking my chances braking a 1 off part... just my 2 cents.

    and the replacement for displacement is to add it with a HUGE turbo
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    Re: D Series Swap...

    d is for a civic......its not strong enough to haul a 3g.....UNLESS built......thats why they put a 2.0 in a accord. an 2.2,

    im just saying hehe........


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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    na the bigger one is the one driving the rustang

    Yo lost I hope you mean shitstang lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rendon LX-i View Post
    d is for a civic......its not strong enough to haul a 3g.....UNLESS built......thats why they put a 2.0 in a accord. an 2.2,

    im just saying hehe........
    and the weight of the cars were already posted, i'm just saying ...
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    Re: D Series Swap...

    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    and the weight of the cars were already posted, i'm just saying ...
    Yeah but only posted the hatch what about the coupe or sedans wieght?

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