Turbo Manifold by : F22PARTS.COM

well ass some of you have read in some of my other post, im working with f22parts.com on getting a turbo manifold made. they said they can do it and dont need a group buy or anything. if five or more are bought then that person gets $50 off of each one. So all they need is an exhaust gasket to make them. BUT heres my question the guy wants to know what "style" we want them made, as in log manifold, ram horn style, equal length, or what???? what do you guys think would be more interested in???? oh and the price on these are going to be the same as all the other ones they have for sale :thumbup:





EXAMPLES OF EACH STYLE

LOG STYLE
https://www.3geez.com/forum/attachmen...achmentid=3430

TUBULAR
https://www.3geez.com/forum/attachmen...achmentid=3427

RAM HORN
https://www.3geez.com/forum/attachmen...achmentid=3451

well every turbo install will be different... I mean you want to make sure the manifold and turbo size all work and it doesn't hit anything in the engine bay.
I would say something that seperates the tubes more then a log manifold and merges them into 1 nicely without Cylinder #1 shooting it's exhaust towards the open end of cylinder #4's pipe. Above the merge, a 5th pipe to allow even access from all 4 pipes to the wastegate above the turbo flange.
So anything that aims the exhaust flow at the turbo and not at the other exhaust flows is good in my book.
So no log manifold.
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The extra outlined white circle in the image is just the size of the F series ports turned 90*.
When tracing use the smaller inner whole circles as the A20 ports.
The original image is 12" wide so scale it appropriately before printing it out. It was is 300px/in but I made it 72px/in so the file size would be smaller.
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I would split cylinders in pairs with a dividing wall , 1-2 & 3-4 down the center to avoid the two sides meeting head on inside the manifold.
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My theory is that if you build it facing up you have all that room underneath the manifold to use.

Certainly room to make braces to hold the turbo and manifold up using the stock bracket on the block that used to hold the cast iron manifold to the block and some steel rods.

It might hit the hood and certainly would require some heat shielding between the turbo and the hood.

...the turbo flange looks a bit warped in the 2nd image.
but it could be a trick of light and dark.

There isn't much difference between the port spacings... well from my view anyways.
So you wont need more material then what you see.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...t_a20_head.jpg

I would say a ramhorn style manifold would be great... but are they not going to use a 3g for a template? clearance issues could become a problem.

And like a20 said, what kind of flange will be going on it?
And are they tig welded? what kind of metal?

well he said you just order what you want and hell get it done, but i need to send him a manifold first, and yeah im not really sure on ramhorn because he doesnt have a test car or something. im just gonna get a simple log manifold for me, but you guys can try out other ones if you want. ill talk to him to see if he needs a car for meauserments.

where is he located? in socal? if so i can let him borrow my DC sports header as a template...and maybe i can get a discount! :D oh and what are he prices do you know yet? you know my number dude...if he's interested.

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Originally Posted by A20A1

I would split cylinders in pairs with a dividing wall , 1-2 & 3-4 down the center to avoid the two sides meeting head on inside the manifold.

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wow thats cool!


it would be awsome if this guy could get more parts made for the a20:welcome:

good theory, but i think you can releave the hood issue by turning the runners down at 90 degres then 180 them back up to the collector.
the other issue would be what size turbo?
mine is 2-3 times the size of a t25..

Hello my name is Dave I am the owner and operator of F22parts. By request gfrg88 ask me to sign up and help answer some questions.

How may I help you all?

dave

Welcome Dave,
I think it shows good on you're part that you're willing to come here directly.

Equal Lengeth Ram Horn FTW!

BUMP!!! :rant: whatever happened to " i wish people made turbo manifold for us"!!!!!!!!!!!! come one people, get your any of your ideas one here, this guy is being great by taking the time and actually trying to get some made for us :sadwave:

well ram horn seems to be what im leaning towards...and you didnt answer my questions gio

well then log it is. though i voted for the ram already :\

i like this one!

http://www.f22parts.com/item_turbomanifold.htm

http://www.f22parts.com/turbomanifold.jpg http://www.f22parts.com/turbomanifold3.jpg http://www.f22parts.com/turbomanifold2.jpg

and at $400 its not bad...i wouldnt mind paying for that

hes located in MS. anyone out there willing to take an accord so he test fit??? for ram horn that is... :sadwave:

im still a noob on turbos...plus i dont think my stock motor could handle lots of presure...and i dont knoe if its smog legal. maybe a small t25 turbo

ram horn ftw

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Originally Posted by MessyHonda88dx

im still a noob on turbos...plus i dont think my stock motor could handle lots of presure...and i dont knoe if its smog legal. maybe a small t25 turbo

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your stock engine would be great with a t25 running 8psi. stock they can handle around 12-13ish psi according to some poeple.

Are you guys even considering the price?

He said price would be the same as the other ones they make, so only 4-5 hundred.

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Originally Posted by A20A1

Are you guys even considering the price?

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yeah you guys have to consider price too. so i would say log since they are cheaper and i know that people on here are super cheap, so lets all be realistic and not say you want something that you arent gonna get...

so basically all Dave would need is new flange for our cars right??

yes, and some way to tell what angle to aim the turbo flange down... that would help radiator clearance.

Well, is anyone located near him that could let him borrow a car?

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Originally Posted by TJX

Well, is anyone located near him that could let him borrow a car?

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yeah that would help out A LOT. anyone near him :sadwave:

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Originally Posted by Cheeseburger

wow thats cool!


it would be awsome if this guy could get more parts made for the a20:welcome:

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Hey ya'll are a Great bunch or people. Glad to be here, did not know what to think at first. Some people a taken me wrong before, most likely because I have a hard time relaying what I am thinking into text and misspell on a regular basis. Does this have a spell check? LOL

I just bought A20Parts.com tonight but with little time to build a website.
This page here is a great start tho. We started very small and are still a very small company, just know getting a business license. I also own other sites like h22parts.com and b18 and b16 ect. Still no extra time to build any new ones yet...

My vote was for the log style manifold because of a couple or reason. One they are the most readily available to us at this time. Second we have yet to even sell a rams horn style or even the cast style we have never sold. The cast style would be an option but only after a prototype log style. Has anyone ever herd the phrase function before form? Meaning that the log style has Great function being small easy to change the design on, even change each manifold like what was mentioned earlier.

A few things I will need to start any of these will be
1. Exhaust gasket that matches good
2. Some measurements of turbo placement and wastegate if needed. I see some talent with that computer drawing. Something like that would work great if it hade measurements. One guy could not do this but instead sent me a neat little weld together metal frame of the turbo mounted where he needed it with it going only to the exhaust bolt flange, simulating the manifold. Either would work or both..
3. Money, all special order are prepaid in full.

We accept paypal, money orders, check, cash. When who ever is ready simply use the same like as our f22 manifold and include what you need with the payment. Try to wait until we have the design and measurements finished.

dave

You may want to join preludepower.com too, a couple people over there are interested also.

I only want to work from this forum for now. Takes to much extra time, maybe this will draw people here? Sure that’s good for business here. lol


dave
What all year model ludes are there my favorite is the 1995. Thank you for asking tho.