What the Hell? Help me please!!

Alright, I finally got around to attempting to finish my disc swap and I hit another snag. I can't get the ball joint holding the hub to the lower control arm to come off. On Bitesize's car we just undid the cotter pin, and bolt and pulled the hub up and off. For some reason on mine I can't get it off. I've tried using a puller, a hammer, and a sleever bar. None of them has worked. Do you guys have any suggestions for getting it off of there? I don't care about damaging the ball joint or the hub, since I won't be reusing them.

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Originally Posted by turabaka

Alright, I finally got around to attempting to finish my disc swap and I hit another snag. I can't get the ball joint holding the hub to the lower control arm to come off. On Bitesize's car we just undid the cotter pin, and bolt and pulled the hub up and off. For some reason on mine I can't get it off. I've tried using a puller, a hammer, and a sleever bar. None of them has worked. Do you guys have any suggestions for getting it off of there? I don't care about damaging the ball joint or the hub, since I won't be reusing them.

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Either It's Pressed In, or theres a C-Clip your missing

did you remove the fork for the strut

nope. I didn't want to pull it off if I didn't need to. I just figured I'd be able to pull up on the hub and get it off of there.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...caremoveal.jpg

what i do is jack up the ball joint, then put something like a ratchet between the lca & hub, then kick it inwards & it pops loose. i will raw a pic if it makes no sense

^^ a pic sounds good. from your description it sounds like what my dad tried to do with a sleever bar. Although without the jacking it up.

and ghetto. Do I just take all those bolts off, and then hit the controll arm with a hammer or something to brake it loose?

just trust me with out the strut fork bolt removed it will be a pita to remove

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...alljoint-1.jpg
the shocks have to be in there for it to work properly

Use a bloody balljoint separator or a picklefork. Fuck.

alright guys. I'll try those tomorrow, hopefully I can get it out.

hahaha A18a your drawing is pro... however your method seems kinda nutty and not very safe IMO.

I had issues with this before too, and just ended up using a pickle fork and a big ass hammer.

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Originally Posted by Hash_man_Se_i

hahaha A18a your drawing is pro... however your method seems kinda nutty and not very safe IMO.
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Well come on he has like almost no tools and has like torn apart and rebuilt like 3 cars, LOL

Nah I'd use proper tools if I can

Edit: NVM I read wrong.

hey, I just had the same problem.I had to heat it up around the ball joint and hit the bottom of the joint with a hammer and it popped right out.

^^i believe it's cause he's trying to remove the hub from the lower control arm instead

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Originally Posted by Hash_man_Se_i

hahaha A18a your drawing is pro... however your method seems kinda nutty and not very safe IMO.

I had issues with this before too, and just ended up using a pickle fork and a big ass hammer.

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how is it not safe? :)

yes u have to know what u are doin

^^ That is correct A18A I'm trying to remove the hub from the lower control arm. Thankfully I got the brand new upper control arms, and ball joints from Bitesize so I don't have to mess with those at all.

Heat it up with a torch and use a 4lbs hammer.

Go Buy A Ball Joint Seperator. Remember I Used It With The Hammer And Beat On It Until It Came Loose?

^^ I thought that was on the tie-rod ball joint. You ended up just giving up on those, but the ones on the lower control arms just came out easily. I finally got the passenger side one done today though, and I'll finish the driver side tomorrow. I'm not gonna do it today cause I need to study for a math test.

i used a pitman arm puller wich should be able to pop it with out damageing the ball joint
http://4x4icon.com/offroad/063007_st...2645_small.jpg

p.s. i think there only like $10 at autozone i got mine from tim :D

I actually tried it that way cah. I used a 3 jaw puller that I rented from autozone. which is the way the hayne's manual says to do it. That didn't work. I ended up just doing it the way A18A said to do it. Jack it up and put a sleever bar on the back side of it, and press. Oddly enough for all my hard work I just grabbed the hub by accident once, and noticed that it was loose, and pulled it out by hand. I hadn't even done anything. lol

I did use the ball joint seperator on that. :) I had to beat on it for about 5 minutes till it finally went pop.

^^hmm. I guess I just wasn't paying enough attention. I ended up getting them both off using A18A's method. so kudos to you A18A. I went through a bled them twice, and holy crapoly is that peddle soft. I have absolutely no pressure in the brakes. So I guess I need to bleed them a couple more times, and see what happens.

on a side note. Why does the hayne's manual say to start with the left front wheel when bleeding the brakes, and everywhere else I've heard says to start with the wheel farthest from the master cylinder which would be the rear right. Have I been bleeding backwards of what I should be or am I doing it right?