I think the seats are from a 3 door LX (84 or 85). I'm pretty sure anyway...
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I think the seats are from a 3 door LX (84 or 85). I'm pretty sure anyway...
Yep, I do believe that's right. That maroon one from last years storm that knocked out power to a bunch of people. I remember because I was working on it while the power was out. That car was pretty clean too!Quote:
Originally Posted by offthahook
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Originally Posted by 2ndGenGuy
Yessirr. That was a NICE "parts" car that I would love to have had whole. Dude practically gave it away because of a blown head gasket as I recall. Low miles and well maintained-- not all wet inside from sitting for years with broken out glass. John and I did get a lot of good parts from that whip. Well, John got them off and mailed them off to me. Too bad all "parts" cars aren't so usable and cheap. He and I breathed new life into some of those parts from that 3 door LX. I just wonder what the parts would have cost if we purchased them brand new from Honda. ONE seat is probably $600 (and unavailable). Win win win on that deal.
Well, a little more progress this weekend. My mechanic friend gave me the number of his super-secret shop that happened to have the flywheel! Big huge w00t on that deal. I thought for sure that I would have to go to the wrecking yard to pull it. So I get all motivated, realizing that I was finally getting ready to put all this stuff together.
I started gathering all the tranny parts. I installed the new clutch slave cylinder, and went ahead and started on the clutch fork. Well, turns out the #$#@%@#% at the junk yard gave me the wrong clutch fork! ARRGH!! This clutch fork was the right length, but wasn't quite shaped properly.
So Sunday, back to the wrecking yard I went. They had no 1g Accords, but they had this cherry little Prelude sitting there. What a neat car those are.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...k/DSC00187.jpg
So I start unbolting the transmission, knowing that it has the clutch fork I so desperately need. When my friend blurts out "Engine Code: EL." He had no idea what it meant, but I kinda freaked out, realizing that we were ripping apart a Canadian car!
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...k/DSC00185.jpg
I have him check the gauges and it turns out that they're in KM/H instead of MPH. I was stoked, thinking I could snag the EL head for future projects, and I'd have the tranny with shorter ratios!
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...k/DSC00186.jpg
But the carb looks slightly like a CVCC carb. Not like the simple 2bbl Canadian model... Vacuum hoses everywhere. I pop the valve cover to find this.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...k/DSC00184.jpg
Boo! Someone had swapped in an EK1 into this car and got rid of the original motor. Or it was some really wierd-ass Canadian car with an EK1 motor in it. What are the chances though, that I find the one junk yard with a Canadian 1g Prelude, and it's got a damn EK1 in it. Oh well.
The good news is, that I got the tranny and the clutch fork, so now I have two transmissions in case something goes bad with the first one. So this week, It's time to start assembling everything, and hopefully this weekend I will be able to fire it up!!!
that prelude looks sweet! :D
Man, more of the same "par for the course" on finding parts that you can actually use. You know I feel your pain on stuff like this... I bet your heart skipped a beat when you heard "EL" and saw that EL plate. Then, I bet there was a lump in your throat when you saw that it was "just" a good ol' CVCC engine in there. It's still so much more satisfying when you actually score a part after so much work and disappointment (like that clutch fork). Keep after it man. It's part of the game, especially dealing with salvage yards...
For all of us looking for these older parts. Watch out for guys saying that they have the part, they have the car, they know what they're doing, etc. There aren't too many unmolested early 80's Hondas out there, period. Most have probably been crushed, rusted out, or sat outside for the last 15 years. It seems they all have been "rigged" since most people think that all early Japanese cars were the same. So, a Corolla, Civic, Accord, Prelude, etc are all the same car to these guys. The cars did share some parts, but there are a lot of these cars that just have the wrong parts swapped onto them. I've even done it. You think you're getting a correct part, but the car may be a Datsun or the Accord might have a Datsun part because someone went cheap and easy on a fix. I run into that all the time and people always seem to say "It won't matter... it's close enough." I think that's why some of these older Hondas are in the yards-- someone ghetto rigged them up to save $$$ or time and they ran okay for awhile. Then, the car crapped out and they junked it and moved on to the next daily driver they could find for $300. Just double check everything you can and don't believe everything someone tells you, especially the yard.
Glad you got your proper clutch fork and I am glad you have a spare tranny for parts. Hopefully, everything lines up and you can get down on installing it!
^^^ This man speaks the truth! Who knows, maybe the first clutch fork that I had was actually what was used in the tranny, and it worked OK. Not great, but just OK.
Funny story about rigging stuff to make it "just work" from that same day. While I was pulling that transmission from the Prelude, a dude comes buy and goes "oh a Honda" and he started looking around checking it out. He has a clutch in his hand (a completely worn out one) from a 87 Civic. Dude asks me if the clutch is around, and I had him the Prelude clutch. He starts looking at it, and the clutches are definitely different. But I guess dude decides that he's going to "give it a shot" anyways. I guess the splines are the same, and the diameter is close enough for him. The hub looks like its totally different, but sure as hell not something I would risk. For $25 you could just pick up a new clutch disc, but homeboy decides to risk it for a used clutch disc. People are just crazy sometimes...
But basically, thats exactly how that stuff happens. I thought it was a perfect example of just what you were talking about, Joel. Crazy stuff!
looks great bro!
^^^ Thanks cheese!
I ran into ANOTHER problem today. It has to do with the clutch hydraulic line. Turns out that the slave and master cylinders both have the same threaded fittings on them. I thought for sure I could snag one off of the above Prelude, but it turned out that the Prelude's clutch hose had a banjo fitting on the master cylinder end. I was a little bummed, but at least I had a hose for a length reference.
I took that hose into the local brake shop (Rapid Brake as they're called). And the guy said that I couldn't put the threaded fitting on both ends, if I did, I could screw one end in, but I couldn't screw the other end in without twisting the hose. I told him there had to be some way to do it, and he told me to bring in the master and slave cylinders.
So I went online and looked at the setup, and turns out the Accord has the EXACT same hydraulic line with the banjo fitting at one end. In the master cylinder, you thread in an adapter that lets you bolt on the banjo fitting.
So, now I need to find the damn adapter. Hopefully that Prelude at the yard has one... I guess I'll head back up and see. Maybe some newer Accords will have that fitting too... don't see a lot of newer Accords at the junkyards around here though, mostly just 3gs and a few 4gs if I'm lucky.
Turns out that I'm an idiot. I totally forgot how a banjo fitting works. The banjo bolt just goes through the banjo fitting and bolts straight into the damn master cylinder. I dunno what I was thinking!! Stupid adapter... jeez...
But I got started putting the engine actually in the car. I didn't put the tranny on yet, because in order to properly torque the flywheel bolts, I wanted the engine in the car. And I didn't put the timing belt on yet, because the flywheel has to be on the engine to set the bottom end to TDC. There are no TDC marks on the crank pulley on this motor...
So tomorrow, I should be putting the tranny on, the timing belt, distributor, alternator, wiring, manifolds, carb, and starter. If all goes well, I can start the thing up!!! Here's pics of my progress.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01354.jpg
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Shiny!
I see a timing belt and a flywheel. Nice progress there, man. It is amazing how we get so caught up in making sure every little detail is exactly right, then forget the simple things. I went to change a marker light the other day and did two steps that just weren't necessary. Not much more time involved, but I felt like such a rookie. I knew better and it wasn't any big deal, but I've done those corner lights a million times! I was just worried about having the right bulb and thought too hard I spose. It's all part of the game. You know you got the motor right and that's the important part; the little stuff that seems easy sometimes escapes us all. Great work.
omg beautful!
awesome. looking good dude!
Where did you get that oil cap? It looks different than mine, which is a 'Stant'. It's brand new and already leaking at the rivets.
looking awesome john
p.s. weren't you supposed to be around the sacramento area this winter?
I believe that's the OEM oil cap on it. At least it's identical to my 81 Prelude's oil cap anyways (which, oddly enough says "Oil" in both English and French lol).... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CcordLevel2
Yup looks exactly as mine too.Quote:
Originally Posted by fullthrottle_man
Word yo! That is straight up original gangsta oil cap action.
Got a LOT of stuff done today. Got the clutch and flywheel in, tranny in, all the mounts fully bolted in, new timing belt, new starter, new alternator, oil filter, new distributor, all the engine electrical hooked up, and clutch slave cylinder installed...
During the week I have to install the axles, install my new coolant lines and fill with coolant, install intake and header, and should be ready to start! I'm almost there!!!!
Couple pics for your enjoyment!
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01359.jpg
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Looking Good
WOW! Looks GREAT! :thumbup:
Yeah I was supposed to be, but my friends canceled out of the LeMons race that they were going to run, and I wound up flying to visit my mom down south of Fresno instead of driving, so I didn't have any way to make it up there. I will be down soon though for another sweet 3geez meet!Quote:
Originally Posted by knarg
Whats that thing beside the radiator, in front of the alternator? Oil cooler?
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Originally Posted by fullthrottle_man :
I believe that's the OEM oil cap on it. At least it's identical to my 81 Prelude's oil cap anyways (which, oddly enough says "Oil" in both English and French lol)....
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Originally Posted by Hazwan:
Yup looks exactly as mine too.
I thought it would be a replacement. My original cap like that is dead and gone as the rubber seal was hard as a rock. Are you guys seals still pliable? Not trying to thread-jack just wondering.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2ndGenGuy:
Word yo! That is straight up original gangsta oil cap action.
Good work on that motor by-the-way. You gotta get video of it firing up for the first time.
Mine is recently replaced since the seal was hard and leaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by CcordLevel2
Mine seems OK so far, but I guess we'll see if it's actually leaking or not when I get it started...
yup oil cooler. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazwan
looking good 2ndGenGuy!
Oh yeah, that's an oil cooler. Its on the automatics, but what the hell, might as well keep it on the 5-speed as well. There's also a trans cooler for the auto trans on the bottom of the radiator... I don't see why you couldn't use a pump and flow tranny oil through it... :)
i miss having a car with the oil filter in the front of the engine nice and easy to change
^^^ Word, I am going to enjoy changing the oil on this car! No more oil down my sleeve scalding my arm!!
So, I've been looking all over for my dogbone mount bracket. But I can't find the damn thing anywhere. All that I can figure is that I tossed it when I tossed the automatic tranny...
I went to the wrecking yard and pulled the bracket from a 2g Accord with an EK1 in it. I thought for sure that it would work, but turns out that the bracket is much taller than the 2g Accord, as the dogbone mount is actually higher.
As you can see, the one on the right is the 2g Accord one, and you can see how much taller it is than the 1g Accord bracket on the right:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01361.jpg
So I took the 2g Accord bracket
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Cut the top off and drilled a new hole in it.
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Then painted it.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01365.jpg
Look how nice it fits!
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01366.jpg
Well turns out it was too close together to fit the bushing in, since it didn't have the required bend in the bracket for the 1g Accord.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01367.jpg
So I just ground down the bushing, and bolted it in. All done! Yay, so now I can hopefully start it this weekend!
Port matched my Weber to my intake manifold tonight.
More info: https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?p=852375
Fuck yeah I got it all done! It's running and drives and the engine is so smooth and quiet. The front right wheel bearing however, is NOT quiet. It's loud and needs replacing. I'll get some pics or vids up ASAP. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
pics AND vids :deal:
seriously well done! am awaiting with breathless anticipation to hear how much smoother my engine is supposed to run and how noisy your wheel bearing actually is. i bet its not as noisy as my mainshaft bearing :argue:
you should go around left-handers as fast as possible to see if it fixes itself before doing anything rash like maintenance. after 8 months i fixed my front passenger side tinking clanking clunking pinging dinging percussive tinny metallic once-per-revolution my-bike-has-a-stick-in-the-spokes noise by taking the chrome rim fairing off. this probably wont help your wheel bearing though :(
Eh I've got another problem now, it's spewing oil everywhere! It's leaking out the damn valve cover gasket around those little tabs where they're supposed to lock in. I'm going to take it apart tonight and see if I can't fix it temporarily with some RTV. In 25 miles, I managed to leak a quart out of the damn car. The good news is, the whole engine bay looks shiny... But it's not exactly what I had in mind....
I just wanted to post in this thread.. :wave:
good work, what color is that on the block? I was thinking about doing one catapilar yelloworange, kind of pinapple mango color not school bus color.
Oil leak is not good news, does oil come shooting out like more than 2 ft if you remove the oil filler cap when it is running?
I'm not sure yet. I'll go check it here soon, SHOULD it spray oil out like that?
I noticed there is some water in the oil on the bottom of the oil cap. But there's none in the crankcase and the engine runs really well and doesn't blow any water or overheat. And there's no oil in the coolant, so I think it's just condensation boiling off and blowing out. Might be excess pressure from the steam blowing out oil along with it?
I'm not sure what color that is on the block. I had the guy mix it for the interior and it didn't match, so I said what the hell and sprayed the block with it. I like your idea with the yellow color. That was actually what I was contemplating before. I wanted to do a dark orange and thought it would compliment the car's color quite well. But I just didn't have the money. And this looks good. :)
.. two feet out,, nope. That would indicate too much pressure in there, that was just a round about way of asking. lol one foot out, yep you would get splashed a little, fairly normal without any baffling.
Some of these Asian four cylinders use an orifice valve between the head and block, also a pressure relief around the oil pump. You probably just need to put some miles on it though, sometimes assembly oils and stuff has to work its way around and out. Break in the rings...
Yep I saw a long block catapillar engine at the truck parts place and it looks pretty clean. I think if would make the A20 CAT tough.. lol ... besides I have not seen one done that way yet. and hey a fav JDM color for the outside the car is similar so JDM yo..lol
Uhh so I guess that PCV is supposed to to go to vacuum. I just have it going to the air cleaner, which may not be enough vacuum to relieve the pressure in the case... Going to try that tonight and see what happens. Hope it works. Plus I guess that you shouldn't run synthetic in a motor when breaking it in... since the rings aren't seating and I'm getting excess blowby. I'll change that tonight and see what happens... Probably a bad combination of the two causing all that oil blowout.
Check you email John.
You can buy a valve cover gasket with grommets in most cases; not sure about an 81 Accord though!. That's the way to go. Avoid the RTV if at all possible! I've had a few Hondas leak at those valve cover nuts. You want the washer and the rubber grommets to be new if at all possible. Good luck on that one... Someone should have a NEW valve cover gasket I would think. Or, are you talking about the corners of the valve cover where it meets the cylinder head?
I've also heard not to break a motor in with synthetic oil. No fast starts, no extended cruising as well as I recall (been awhile). I think you change the first oil at 500 or 1000 miles. I think that's right, but someone double up on that and make sure that's accurate info. Gotta break her in easy as I recall.
Got the e-mail, thanks tons!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by offthahook
Nah it's not the grommets that are leaking, those are brand new, along with the metal pieces on top and new nuts too! You know the litte nubs that stick up and kinda "clip" the valve cover gasket on? Those are where I'm getting the most of the leak. Actually, I looked at it in the daylight (first time we've had sunlight in a month), and its just coming out all around the valve cover. I do think it's the blowby from the rings not seating from the synthetic in combination with the PCV system not having sufficient vacuum. We'll see tonight!
Been babying the car though, haven't had it above 3000RPM. Been taking it only through town, driving it like grandma. Then going to do the oil change at 500 miles for sure. My buddy who is a certified mechanic said that I probably didn't do any harm to the motor, just didn't seat the rings yet and new oil should be good.
Thanks everybody for all the help!!!
Well, I got that synthetic out of the engine and hooked the vent on the valve cover directly to vacuum. Disconnected the brake booster and just hooked it to that line. The oil pukage completely stopped. Definitely a huge deal on those motors I guess is to have adequate ventilation. The weird thing with the PCV system on these cars is that there is no breather. Just the port on the valve cover. This makes me think that is the reason you need vacuum there, and you can't just run it into the air cleaner. I'm sure if there was a breather, it would be ok to do. I actually read about someone putting a vent into the oil filler cap... But I think if I just build a catch can, and hook it to vacuum, that should work perfectly. Oh yeah, I need a check valve too. If you are on the gas and suddenly let off, the car dies, and I'm sure it's got to do with the breather going straight to the intake manifold. The engine slows down before vacuum can build up in the crankcase again, and it dies.
Even Honda's original PCV system wasn't too bad. It was simple and kinda elegant really. It kinda had it's own catch can of sorts that appears to take the gases into the air cleaner, yet keep vacuum in the little canister that separates moisture from the gasses. The system on the 2g was kinda lame, and just sucks all that crap straight into the manifold. No separation of anything.
Cool stuff. I love all the little systems and figuring out how they work. If anybody knows the right way that thing works, or if I'm spot on... lemme know. :)
Do you have pics of the engine fully assembled?
Mines having a small leak on the valve cover, even with new Honda gasket and washer and grommets. Don't know if this also related to the PCV problem you're having.
just let the oil spew and think of it as rust prevention :lol:
http://www.filtercouncil.org/techdata/tsbs/94-2R1.pdf
pretty good primer article on PVC
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h63.pdf
another one with PICTURES< yay !
On my 2g ek1 their was a vacuum hose going from the breather to a port under the air cleaner. I just put a breather filter on it because i didn't want that crap in my weber. I might temporarily hook it up right and see if my car runs any better.
I always thought that the breather was there to replace the air that was sucked out by the PCV system with clean, filtered air. Although even after a rebuild, my 22R still barfs oily air out of the breather, like it's not supposed to.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...r-a-splode.jpg
i had an oil "leak" from the same place, the result of plugging the PCV valve where it exhausts into the air filter drum with a pen cap wrapped in fabric. it seemed like a good idea at the time to determine where the small oil droplets were coming from in the intake.
i then immediately attempted to drive to a freinds house 40km away and about 1/3rd of the way there it abruptly ejected at least half the engine oil. i only noticed when i spotted the smoke cloud and the cars behind dodging out of it :(
it couldn't build up *that* much pressure under there without the pen cap or some other line giving way, so i concluded that the rocker cover gasket just doesnt hold much pressure. any excess blowby or a slightly deficient seal would make it leak like hell from whereever it so wished.
so you're right i think. its just sensitive and you upset it with your fancy oil. i took the little plastic pot off the bottom of the filter drum and its pretty simple, just a baffle to separate the goo from the gas. theres also baffles in the top of the rocker cover. if you plugged the associated ports off and just put a vent filter on the rocker cover outlet it'd probably be fine.
also my engine is a long way from fresh but the blowby is barely enough to lift oil droplets out of the open oil filler hole, either hot or cold.
Man those articles on crankcase ventilation were interesting. It makes me worry about just using a vacuum line or a catch can to try to capture the blowby gasses. I do enjoy getting on the gas once in a while, and under throttle, is when maximum blowby is created, and there is minimal vacuum to pull the excess blowby out of the engine.
I figure if I use a catch can to catch all the rubbish that spews out of the engine, the can will also keep vacuum hopefully under load, just like those silly canisters that Honda puts all over the engine bay stock. And if I put a smaller vacuum hose on the outlet, it should keep the car from stalling out I'm thinking when I come off the throttle.
Ccord, I would take off that breather, since that is where stuff is supposed to come OUT of the engine. The filter traps all that crap in there (moistures, and some gasses) and won't let it out of your engine. Especially worse when the filter gets clogged up.
And Tomato, your engine bay looks exactly like what mine looked like the first few days. I just took mine to a pressure washer to clean it all out, and it's nice and shiny now again. The wierd thing is, I didn't plug mine, I ran a 3/8 inch tube into my air cleaner, so I think the critical thing is to make sure you've got vacuum on it.
Relating to what guyhatesmycar said, there actually is no breather on the early E motors to allow air into the system. I think that's why vacuum is so important to have hooked up to prevent the excess blowby. The later E motors and all Honda engines afterwards had a breather to bring in fresh air, and they expelled the crap out the valve cover.
Here's a good thread I found on 1stgencivic.com that might explain a few more things as well:
http://www.1stgencivic.org/world/c1z...&highlight=pcv
The early Civics shared the same basic designs in the engines, and a lot of them swap to EK or EL motors, so all that info is totally relevant to our motors.
Congratulations on having it running.
The new exhaust manifold on it already?
Hope the wheel bearing hasn"t ground into its hub yet. A shame it couldn"t wait till you had to replace the brake disc's or something, when it'd need replacing anyway.
Mine would leave a pool of oil in the air cleaner as well after hard driving. From memory I added a thin piece of fabric accross the opening to the factory "catch-can" under the air cleaner to lightly filter the air passing through it, though even that may have been enough of a blockage, since the engine does have a small oil leak....
A few more baffles in a slightly larger factory style "can" ( so the filtered oil can drain back down into the cam cover ) ?
wow i just skimmed through your progress...fucking awesome love the color choice for the motor dude.
maybe in the future, after the rg, ill try to restore one of these...maybe
yes, that interior is uber streight man !
is there a baffle of sorts inside that hump on the valve cover?
Oh yeah that autoshop101 link, I was looking at that from the home page, it goes to a free online subject outlined automotive theory class, also it has ASE prep tests to go with some subjects, if any of you get time it is well worth surfing around on. Free and printable :)
You have done a lot of work in a short time once you got in to it, much respect and kudos for the progress 2ndGenGuy
Were you able to find new Rocker Arms for that head or did you have to re-use the old ones?
No, I didn't get new ones. A few of mine were really bad, so we took the good ones off of the cracked cylinder head and made one good head from all the best parts from the two heads I had.Quote:
Originally Posted by redr2
Nice work! Looks great! The red interior looks nice and clean!
Well, I think that I can finally consider this project done. The exterior of the car is all that is really left, and the project for the back of the interior, but those will be coming soon. The car is finally tuned the way I like it, and all the bugs have been worked out. She got new brakes all around, all new wheel bearings, a good breather system worked out, carb and timing are set properly now...
Here's a video of how she runs. The audio clips because the camera didn't auto-level the sound, so you don't really get to hear how good it sounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_U-vzeKnQU
Also gave her a bath today, but it got kinda dark before I could get in any nice pics. Doesn't really matter because the clearcoat is pretty much gone, and the wheels are sorta rusty. The dark pics hid it well!
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Always good to see more Accord images.
And good to see that you are finally getting to enjoy the car in the video. & that all the teething problems are now under control.
Would make a fun comparison to the '84 with such different gearing.
Like Hazwan said before though we still have to see your completed workmanship under the bonnet.
Just looking at the wheel trim-rings has me wondering if the 12-slot wheels were wider that the 4.5" 8-slots my '79 had... & that I really should make sure I have a full set of trim rings for my 'spare' Accord. Just in case I leave its wheels alone.
I miss my Accord & projects. I'm buying old German Honda brochures to compensate untill I can get back to them... to do the clutch...
Wow yeah I'm pretty sure these wheels are 5 inches wide. Not incredible, but definitely wider than 4.5s. I almost snagged a set of rims off of a '79, the rims with the 4 rectangular holes. I wonder if those were that skinny as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 79cord
Video was great it sounds MEAN :D
Great Job John! :thumbup:
yeah shes not to slow either
Yeah sounds quick! More pics of the engine and interior!
sweet! Sounds great man. What exhaust you running? I was going to order a magnaflow cat and muffler for mine.
Thanks guys. It's a actually just the stock exhaust right now. That 4-cylinder symphony is courtesy of the Weber carb. :) Reading up on a few sites, if your Weber doesn't scream like that, it might need some tweaking. The noise definitely corresponded with the butt-dyno results. More noise = higher butt-dyno score. :D
I'll get some engine pics here in a bit, and probably will stick it on a Dyno in March.
Wow, that thing is freaking sweet. And you paid $100 for it? That paint really looks good, other than the fading. It will scream out loud when you paint it. I like the 2G 3 door in the background in the last picture, too. Sounds good, looks good, probably even smells good. Can't wait for the engine and interior shots. Again, great work.
holy shit.
thats it, im getting me a weber.
mine sounds a bit like that, except the screaming comes in at around 3500-4000rpm, instead of at 5 like yours. and yours goes a lot faster too. im suprised the gearstick and clutch didnt just surrender and fall out completely after 3rd gear =P
awesome work.
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Wow yeah I'm pretty sure these wheels are 5 inches wide. Not incredible, but definitely wider than 4.5s. I almost snagged a set of rims off of a '79, the rims with the 4 rectangular holes. I wonder if those were that skinny as well.
JIPPED.!!
Just checked some old magazines & yes the US/Japanese '79 4-slots 'EK' were 5.0" too. Never noticed that before.
Everyone else with the 'EL' got the old 4.5" 8-slot wheels through 'till '82 !
Starting to wonder what some of the old Accord styled wheels would look like detail painted (dark grey & silver) to pick out the shape a bit more - like some of the '70's Ford Cortinas & Escorts were.... just saw some amazing styled steel wheels on a new Opel that couldn't have been factory.
P.S. I gather the afore mentioned 2.0L Fords came with such downdraft webbers in Aust. factory....
Never seen a real Ford Cortina. Our Escort we got was nothing like yours. We did get some Fords with Weber downdrafts, but they were mostly licensed by Holley, the 5200 series.
Here's some pics of the engine. Yes that's a bungee cord holding the battery in, it's only temporary until I find the proper tie down, and the vacuum line routing is a bit of a mess. I will be rerouting the vacuum lines to clean up that mess too.
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John,
So fresh and so clean. I don't know as though I have ever seen such a tidy and fresh engine bay. It looks so roomy without the AC system. And tuned how you wanted it. Very nice. :cheers:
Nice!:bow: I would definately like to see those dyno results when you get em.
Just for shits 'n giggles, here's a question for you: Now that you've had a little seat time with the ek1, which of your accords would you more willingly take out for a drive? The 2g or the 1g?
soo cleeannn O_O
Agreed, it look so roomy without AC system in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by offthahook
And clean those stray wires!
That engine bay looks awesome:cheers:
That engine looks GREAT! :thumbup: :thumbup:
Thanks guys. Glad you like it. :D
I'm probably not going to do a whole lot of detail work to the engine bay or give this thing a paintjob until this summer. The problem is when my road washed out this winter, they still haven't fixed it, and I've got a mile long muddy forest road to drive on. It splashes up in the engine bay and already is starting to take it's toll on this engine. You should see the engine in the 2g right now. It's trashed and makes me wanna cry. This engine is only clean now because I drive less than 10mph and hold up all the traffic. :-)
Looks great and sounds mean! Great Job!!
looks so clean and sounds sooo badass it sounds meaner then my car =0
Sounds meaner than it goes. Trust me. :)
Oh man! New toys today! Looks like I've got a project. Install this along with emptying out the catalytic converter. The carb will need a retune after this install for sure. Also planning on painting the wheels black this weekend and polishing up the trim rings, caps and lugnuts. Should be a good weekend for the hatch!
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Oh yeah, here's what the header looked like when I got it.
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Sweet!!
Shiny!
those are nice, is that nickel plated?
I recall those on Ebay, just how long are they where they leave the block (before they do the down turn before the ground)?? Just want to confirm they will not fit in a Civic bay.
Oh my fucking god john, those are sure chromed plated! Hey Redr2, I'm a machinist up in Red Deer, I can make anything fit anything. Just starting to get into CNC. I used to live in Castlegar, and spent an army summer in Chilliwack on the PRTC base just off of Keith Wilson and Vedder.
I can build you anything. Just send me a drawing.
Edit: I think I just found me some new sig material.
Actually they're ceramic coated. Inside and out. They gave me the choice of either black or chrome finish. The inside doesn't have the chrome finish though. It's not a smooth chrome finish like the bumpers on the car, but I sure as hell love how they look. I want to just give them random chunks of metal to ceramic coat. :-p
They are 11 inches from the front of the flange straight back to the downturn. They actually don't fit in my engine bay very well at all. I'm going to notch the crossmember and weld in a plate for reinforcement. Hopefully I don't have to cut out too much. But I'm going to start on it Friday morning, so check back for pics.
Mike, can you build stuff out of stainless? Say I wanted a stainless header for my 2g? How would I make you a drawing?
What grade of stainless? What type of header? A drawing is made with pen and paper, john:wave:Quote:
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Seriously, if I can get ahold of stainless J-bends and you set me up with measurements, I can build it all, including flange.
They have come up nice.
Want.
Want.
I think as soon as I get home I'm going to buy some dark grey & the proper trim rings to try on some of my '81 Preludes styled steels & Sisters old Accord. Really want to see what they will look like 'detail painted' to pick out their shapes more.
Not really a fan of black steels but the stainless trim-rings will make a world of difference there.
Red paint badge background in the bearing caps?
Hmm Red H sounds like a great idea! I don't usually like black wheels either, but there's enough shiny stuff around it to make them look good. Saw the black / polished look on a 3g Civic Si and I really liked it. I'm curious about your detail painting, so post pics!! :wave:Quote:
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nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and black and chrome steelies FTW!!!
Indeed they turned out FTW. After about 3-4 hours of sanding, about 2 hours of masking and spraying, and about 3 hours of polishing, the rims look fucking fantastic. Nicer than the car actually... Ha!
Before
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Sanded
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Masked
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Painted
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On the car
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Wheels Look Great! :thumbup:
yeah wheel look great
That is hot as fuck!!
Wheres the red H??
Very nice! I like those trim rings, they're flatter than mine. Kinda looks like a lip instead.
Thanks!
The rings are pretty dished. They're about an inch and a half thick, I think they're just reflecting the black paint, making them look black.
I decided not to do the red H for now. I think it would have stood out too much, and clashed with the red color of the car. We'll see how it looks after the car is painted. I've got some extra center caps to play with. :)
i dont think you should do the red H's.... i think it would be too loud. it looks really good the way it is!
I would normally not like the black look because it seems like everyone is into it these days, trying to be all NASCAR like with their car. Man, yours look good with the rings and caps INSTALLED (unlike some ricers who just put the steelies on). Very classy and done right as usual. Can't wait til you paint that thing.Quote:
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and GD john they look fucking sick!!!!!
i need to get some 82-83 accord center caps and 15" trim rings asap now!!!!
REAL nice pieces you have there, that header looks like a blast.... yep that will be an awesome sounding 1G
that is a freaken beauty!!! very very nice work i love that hatch interior ext damN!!!
sorry to clutter your thread, but DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. You're car is so nice. I hope you get as much pleasure driving it around as I do from just knowing how much TLC you have given it.
WoW how I missed this thread? Man you done a shit load of work on this car. Mad Props to you!! I just love it.
lill of topic here, do you know if there is any swaps that can be done to the 1G? like A20 or something.. just wondering..
Thanks
lol city turbo swap ftw i reckon
Oh yeah I forgot about the City Turbo swap. 110hp turbo, but it's like 1.2 liters and turbo lag, so torques might be a problem since the 1g is heaver.
