Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
Ok, thanks you guys.
Now on to my next topic, how do I get the belt on. I read the fourm how to guide, but I have some problems with it. Like,
"Carefully turn the crankshaft through 2 revolutions and recheck the timing marks and camshaft sprockt index markproper alignment. If the crankshaft binds or seems to hit something, do not force it, as the valves may be hitting the pistons. If this happens, valve timing is incorrect. Remove the belt and go back to step 1 of reinstallation."
How does one carefully turn the crank? Is it some special tool? There's no way I'd be able to move it slowly with my hands. And the same goes for my camshaft gear sprocket thingy, I cant budge that thing with just myself.
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
you can put a breaker bar on the crank pully/gear/whatever...
then you can slowly tap it to get your slow careful turning. also, removing the spark plugs will mean you are not fighting compression of the motor.
you have to be careful to not turn it too far, but its much easier with a breaker bar, for example when setting your timing you need to get quarter turns on your camshaft. :)
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
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Originally Posted by Spiderldr
How does one carefully turn the crank? Is it some special tool? There's no way I'd be able to move it slowly with my hands. And the same goes for my camshaft gear sprocket thingy, I cant budge that thing with just myself.
As mentioned, put a breaker bar or ratchet with a 17mm or 19 mm socket on the crankshaft bolt & turn counter-clockwise. Take out all your spark plugs to make it easier to turn. If your looking to make sure your lined up properly, turn your crankshaft bolt untill you see a "T" on the flywheel (or driveplate) through the peephole on the bellhousing. Line up the "T" on you flywheel (or driveplate) to the pointer inside the peephole. You will need someone to watch & look at your flywheel (or drive plate for autos) with a flashlight while you turn the cranskaft (bolt).. I recommend you pull your valve cover off & pull the cover on the side of head to see the cam sprocket.
Your cam sprocket will have the word "UP" on it & the lines on each side of the cam sprocket will be lined up with the top of the cylinder head..
Edit- Thx cke & AZmik
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
just wondering...How do you guys know your at TDC? what to you check?
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
Depends on if you have a manual or auto. If you have a manual, there is a pointer through a peep hole on the bellhousing that has a "T" on the flywheel, should line up to the pointer in there. I beleive it should be the same on a auto, look to find the same mark on the drive plate or flexplate.
Look at your rotor under the distibutor cap, it should point at #1 spark plug wire.
If you want other methods of getting it there, just post on here, can walk you though it.
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
I just went through a rebuild from hell. I had a nice problem like this guy but not with a shady mechanic. The car set for a few weeks with the head off and the belt exposed. A rat ate mine in half. I know the easiest way to change your t-belt having done it MANY times. Pull your valve cover and distributor. Pulled the rocker arms off making sure to leave the bolts in the rocker arm assembly. Pull the top timing cover. Pull the two motor mount bolts. Turn the crank pulley until it is at TDC according to the flywheel. Jam a screwdriver in the flywheel or use an impact to get the crank pulley bolt out. Pull all accessory belts and the pulley will fall off. Then remove the lower timing cover. NOw from above the vehicle drop your belt first around the crank gear. Make sure you get the t-belt on the oil pump and the tensioner. You can now put the crank pulley and the lower timing cover back on . You will have a little bit of a time getting the t-belt through the motor mount but it is possible. Make sure once again that the crank is at TDC. Lay the cam on the head. Install the timing belt on it the the up arrow at 12'O clock position. Install the rocker arm assembly on top of the cam. Rotate the engine a few times and check the timing. You can now install your distributor. It can only go on one way so no worries there. Install the timing cover and valve cover. You may need a jack to get the motor mount back in place. If you have any more q' just ask!!
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
why do you have to remove the rockers?
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
It makes it easier to put the t-belt on. Trust me, I tried many other ways and this was the easiest!
Re: Engine Turned over but Timing belt didn't.
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Originally Posted by azazel_18_2
It makes it easier to put the t-belt on. Trust me, I tried many other ways and this was the easiest!
Or you could just loosen the tensioner and it'll slide right on to the cam gear.