very cute TOYota

Oh, yeah kid.
Here's my VTEC in action. One of these years, you might have one like it. You can dream until then.
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/fa7a228e-46...40ecaeaeac.jpgClick here to see Video

The good ol' days of the B16 couope...

Nice, but:

Here's a LOCAL Celica raping a RX8, with only Same mods as mine + Power FC

http://thumbs.vidiac.com/f58cfa0f-37...3e0146cac7.jpgClick here to see Video

And here's a Celica with I/H/E/Power FC racing a S2000. S2000 has mods too.
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/49ad4a64-23...1cea304e8e.jpgClick here to see Video

Yeah, 22K car VS "your" 33K S2K. Don't make me laugh. I know a guy who sold his S2K because swapped B series hatches, and a stock Integra Type R beat his. Stock ITR's run 14.9 (good) GT-S run 14.7(good- land in LIFT), their time is higher than an S2K, because they a FWD cars, but from a roll it matter much less. S2000 is less than stellar in acceleration, for it's class/price. SRT's destroy them regularly. POint? Using the S2K as though;s it;s some godlike chariot isn't gonna work here.

Just because it's sexy:
http://thumbs.vidiac.com/f58cfa0f-37...3e0146cac7.jpgClick here to see Video
This motor(2ZZGE) is made by Yamaha, and it sounds like a fuckin sport bike. This vid has the Power FC (why he can rev to 9K). The stock ECU holds this car back, the STOCK cams are aggressive enough to make power to 8700ish, and the lift crossover is set too high in the factory ECU. Anyone who runs a 15 in this car stock, isn't hitting lift during shifts. Power FC and full bolt on's get mid 13's.

Any stock 00-02 Celica GT-S is a decent driver, intake, header and Power FC away from 13's. You can just unbolt the axleback, that's gotten more power than all the exhausts except maybe 2. That's $1000 max. You can keep your full interior...

Your little Civic, you need a $3200 GSR swap, I/H/E/cams OBD conv w P28, and to strip your car out like a shitbox.

Or put a $5000 K20 in it, and the $2000 it costs for the kit, work, then more for Hondata. Hell, it might run 12's, but like everyone else with a fast NA, it'll be a shitbox base model.

So, have fun running 15's after you spend 3K on a swap. Haha, you can't get me to drive another Honda after finding out things about this car.

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Originally Posted by Feuerstoss

Meh. My Celica doesn't rely on VVTL-i to make about 210bhp with a decently fat torque curve. It just relies on a CT26.:naughty:
In all seriousness, VVTL-i is to Toyota what VTEC is to Honda. VVT-i is a similar concept, but waaay different in execution, and I think the 2ZZGE is the only engine to have VVTL-i in the states?
Sorry, my newer Toyota knowhow's kinda flaky... I honestly know more about TVIS than I do VVTL-i.

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Yeah, that gt4 is a sweet car. And 210 is great in a reasonably small car like that. I'd love to find one of those. But I'm a bit disenfranchised with these new celicas. They look like something out of TF&TF. Just like the STI WRX. You're not fooling anybody with those cars, anybody who sees them will expect them to be very quick. I like the new redone Subaru for 07. That thing looks nothing like a racing car, but is faster than hell.

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Originally Posted by diegoaccord

Nah, you'd know if I was pissed off.
You're just some punk kid. I'll forgive you this once. Go read a UNBIASED article and come back. Until then, do us ALL a favor and shut the hell up.

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I'll withdraw from the childish insults/raving at this point. But on a lighter note, thanks for returning to actual, relevant discussion.

Now, the teg R is awesome, true. It's also vtec empowered. The S2000 was a base example, not the point of this discussion. Ok so maybe a celica can kill an S2000, but you'll never get me to agree to VVTL-i being better than iVTEC. Anyone else want to weigh in on that?