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lol, now im the horrible person because im the one telling you flat out how it is. Im sorry everyone else on this board more then likely thinks what I do about this topic. Sometimes taking the stand is better then holding back. Im the one who takes the stand on the board for idiots that come here. If you dont like it, oh well!
Nate.
There seems to be quite the conflict of interest here. First of all, to whoever was talking about who would drop that much cash into a 3g, did you ever wonder why we own these cars? I would rather have my car over most newer ones, and when something like this comes along offering very good performance, I take interest. I must admit, even I have a price limit. If the PRi mounts cost over $1000 usd I'll go with a B swap instead. I am a big fan of the H22A because of the HP and torque, and I've wanted to swap one into my car from day one. MSI, if you can get some more people for this and also get a test car, I'm in.
Thank you man, and I can guarentee they wont be anywheres near 1grand. maybe like 500 bucks. Netfreak, send me a messege and tell me how long your willing to wait on this, and if your in or not. I need to start a list and start debating with PRi about how many people they want. Hopefully they can make me a deal. EVERYONE THAT IS INTERESTED AND/OR WANTS IN, PM ME WITH THE DETAILS AND TELL ME HOW LONG YOUR WILLING TO WAIT. I dont know how long it will take for me to get the right ammount of people. but I'm gonna try.
And I'm there too, for the price I'm most likely going to be spending to buy a STOCK 3G, I could go out and buy a 89 Porsche 928. But I don't want to. I want to fix up the 3G
Message sent.
If the mounts end up being decently priced, then that would be a bonus. At all the places I've seen, the H22A package is about $1000 more than the B16A. I can already feel my wallet's pain but it'll be hella worth it. ZOOM!
H22 (2.2 DOHC V-TEC) SiR $3595.95
http://www.ardperformance.com/images/h22.gif
2.2 DOHC 16V VTEC 200 HP Honda motor. Direct from Japan. Includes engine, hydraulic transmission and ECU. Price includes truck freight.
H22A JDM Prelude Engine
http://www.jdmhondaparts.com/engines/H22A_1.jpg
92 - 96
Fully Complete
PRICES START @
$2500.00
IN STOCK
H22A JDM Prelude Type-S Engine
http://www.jdmhondaparts.com/engines/H22A-S.jpg
96+
Fully Complete
PRICES START @
$4500.00
IN STOCK
Euro Accord-R H22A Engine
http://www.jdmhondaparts.com/engines/H22A-R.jpg
98+
Fully Complete
PRICES START @
$4500.00
IN STOCK
http://www.h22a.com/images/h22aportpolish.jpg
JDM H22A Prelude
DOHC VTEC 4 Cylinder 16 Valve
Transmission: Hydraulic
ECU: OBD1 ('93-'96)
Displacement: 2157cc
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
HP/Torque: 200hp@6800/161 lb-ft@5500
Redline: 7200 rpm
IN STOCK
Price: $2,800 (Includes Shipping)
LMAO :lolQuote:
Originally posted by 89AccordNate
Some people are just retarded, and cant understand cars in general. They think that they all are the same on the inside. Obviously people are the same as cars, because I sure as hell wouldnt want to be as dumb as MSI inside my head.
When I see the motor in there, I will give more props then anyone else, until then, keep it off the board unless you have some real information, and not bullshit information like everyone else seems to post on here.
Nate.
I guess I have failed to see what is funny Darkness!!!
Well thank god you stumbled onto the 3G. I can't think of a bigger mistake than a 89 928, un reliable P.....O.....S!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by MSIAccord_LXi
I could go out and buy a 89 Porsche 928. But I don't want to. I want to fix up the 3G
No one in their right mind touches those things.
Those price include a transmission,.........right? If not please do the reasearch and repost prices that have manuel transmissions included. Part of what makes them worthwhile is the gear ratio's that they were built with. You don't want them matched up with tall gears.Quote:
Originally posted by MSIAccord_LXi
H22 (2.2 DOHC V-TEC) SiR $3595.95
2.2 DOHC 16V VTEC 200 HP Honda motor. Direct from Japan. Includes engine, hydraulic transmission and ECU. Price includes truck freight.
H22A JDM Prelude Engine
92 - 96
Fully Complete
PRICES START @
$2500.00
IN STOCK
H22A JDM Prelude Type-S Engine
96+
Fully Complete
PRICES START @
$4500.00
IN STOCK
Euro Accord-R H22A Engine
98+
Fully Complete
PRICES START @
$4500.00
IN STOCK
JDM H22A Prelude
DOHC VTEC 4 Cylinder 16 Valve
Transmission: Hydraulic
ECU: OBD1 ('93-'96)
Displacement: 2157cc
Compression Ratio: 10.6:1
HP/Torque: 200hp@6800/161 lb-ft@5500
Redline: 7200 rpm
IN STOCK
Price: $2,800 (Includes Shipping)
Yes, they come with Trannies, LSD Tranies are Optional, and I think Auto tranies are more expencive. Except for that last one....all the other ones are ready to go for the new accords and ludes, all you gotta do is drop them in, install the new ecu, and engine harness bla bla bla, and your done. the last one dont have anything on it, no trany, no intake, no exaust. just what you see. SHITTY. I'm gettin at all we'll have to do is....Get Engine Mounts Made, Custom Make Linkage, Get Custom Made Axles......Umm......and probably a few other lil things, so if you get a good deal on an engine, most likely 5-6grand all together, I'm guessin, I have met a few people on HS that bought thier H22A's from the Admin. of HS and he sells them for DIRT CHEAP! if you buy one of the others that I showed.....the price obviously goes higher, but I wanna get the cheapest KIT I can find. I would like to find a junk yard with one in it, and Pull everything out that will make the car run, and have them cut me a deal.....think I can do that?
I was thinkin that it might be posible to put some small gears in the 1st 4. then run the 5th gear as a Overdrive.
How do you figure they are POS's? I love the 944 (951 Turbo) and the 928 with the 302cid V-8 Engine, the cars are cheap, but the performance parts arent lol. and....dont hate me but I used to hate 3Geez. I never imagined they could look nice, all because of my dad. he owned the one I got, and YUX. My brother bought it and we cleaned it up and bought wheels, thats what made me like it, but I wasnt going to get one, until I started to buy it from him. I started to see the car in a different sence. then I stumbled accross 3Geez.Com and it opened my eyes to a new 3rd Gen Accord World. I didn't know shit about it until now. Now I have confidence, I know If I have any problems or Idea's I can share or theorize them with all of you, its fuckin cool man!
Went to the damn living room to look outside, everyone is asleep and there is a nice moon out.....It just hit me....I talked about this guy before. Some people stole this guys 5th Gen Accord and wrecked it, only body damage. he gave up on it, only thing fucked is some shit in the front, and the tail lights are missing, hood is bent, fenders I think are good, front bumper is demolished. AND THERE IS A RUNNING ENGINE in it....with Cold Air Intake, some other shit on it....which engines were put in the 5th Gen USDM Honda Accords?
Weren't they f22s or something?
Yes, but weren't there also H22's, or was that just in the JDM Version? I'll ask him how much he wants for it all anyways, HeHe, I wouldnt mind owning 2 Accords. Its wrecked, it lost its value :D
Lol, no there wasnt an h22a put into the USDM accord....jeez....
Nate.
damn, I should start selling engines to you guys!!!!
I can get those for half the price written there!
Really? Then I would be seriously interested in buying one through you!
Oh, but does that include everything those do (tranny, axles, ECU, etc)?
You got my attention too CarrotMan :D, BTW, are you wanting go be put on the waiting list? I allready got 5 people so far, and a billion messeges left on my AIM today from people asking questions.
http://www.nippon-motors.com/prices.htm
H22A Performance Engine, VTEC
Engine + Trans: $1,950
Engine + Trans + ECU: $2,250
They also have the B18C1 package for $3000.
I am somewhat interested in the swap but i have 2 issues and they are size of the engine and how hard is the hydro swap. I will see the size when my friend gets his but when we pulled his 2.3 the hydro lines and cables are and look like a lot of work. The shifter doesnt use a rod it is moved by cables. I probably would prefer a B-series but the H22 is a very strong motor and would be nice in our car if it fits well and can get the power down and have stronger axles. Place Racing can be a pain it the ass because back a few summers ago i was really gonna do a B16A swap because i needed a new motor and they were in the process of doing the swap. It took them a very very long time to complete the swap so i was pushed to buy a JDM A20A to get me by with a reliable engine. I spoke to Rob there many of times and it just took them way to long to finish but now they are done and the B-series are a relatively easy swap for us. I would be shocked if they started this project now and got it done by next september. (unless someone has a lot of money to dump on them to get the ball rolling).....I will keep my eyes on this if they do decide to do it but when i ready to buy my next motor (in the spring) we will see if the swap took place....
And the motor does look good in the bay by what i saw of the guys accord in Canada but i dont know how it drives and or reliable it is. But stong axles and LSD should solve the traction problem that i suspect would occur with that motor.
There would be no traction problems, the motor is a lil heavier then our A20A motors I was told, the engine will fit perfectly in our engine bays, we just need to get axles made, and engine and trany mounts, Custom linkage needs to be made for all the people that are gonna do this swap, Ask carrotman about the Hydro Swap cause he's the genious on this matter. He says with a Kit (Engine, Trany, Custom Axles, Custom Mounts, Custom Linkage, Custom Engine Harness, ECU, and all bolt ons) this engine swap will be easier then hell!
Its not gonna be that easy or as cheap as you say. The B16A will run you about $2000 for all the hardware from PRI. That will be everything from a/c, p/s, harness, axles, linkage, mounts etc. You can clip off things like the a/c to cut costs but the H22 will definately be more with the addtion of the hydro converter and misc extras. I have a good deal of mechanical knowledge so i know it wont be that smooth. The B16A is the best choice at the moment because the harness is premade and plug and play so it is for the most part pretty simple. I am glad that placeracing has made the mounts for us but they do have a lot of bad things running around from credible people for instace a guy had a hell of a time getting his b18c5 wiring from them and he never did get it and they sent back his regular harness not done. They came up with many excusses on why it wasnt done and after a while he took it elsewhere to get done. The reason why i have interest in this engine is because the relative cost to a better B-series is about double the cost of the H22 and the H22 has more than enough torque to move my heavy accord. Dont count on PRI till you see the end result and thats just from my experience on trying to get the B-series mounts before.
It dont matter if I count on them or not, there is only one way to find out if they are going to do this, and thats to get 10 orders ready, the people dont need to buy the motor just yet, just get the money ready, and I need to get a car to SoCal with the Motor so they can use it to Prototype the Mounts, if they follow through, then I'll be taking all the money orders and what not to get everyone who wants them, what they have been waiting for. It is easy as I say because I've allready discused all the things that needs to be done for this, actualy I havent....CarrotMan has.
If they dont follow through after I get the motor, then I will find someone to sell the motor and everything that comes with it for thier civic or newer accord or somethin, so its not that big of a loss, I'm just telling everyone to save up the money, keep it safe and dont buy the motor just yet because we need to first get these 10 people signed up, after I get all 10 of the people who wants them thier mounts, then they should go out and buy the motor. ITs better that way so nobody gets screwed. Cause if they save up the money for this swap, and it dont happen, they still can do a diff swap.
