I thought you got a rebuild kit for your carb and everything was running great...
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I thought you got a rebuild kit for your carb and everything was running great...
was till the thing started having vacuum issues dont do 200KPH in your accord it might wreck stuff
where do i get those nice rounder headlights and could i swap em for my sealed beam ones
hey guys I've phoned the Honda dealer and went to the junk yard and i cant find a carburetor that will work for my A16A. will the weber carb fit on it without doing something major. or is it time to send it to the great beyond or for parts cause without a new one my car is useless.
don't get mad. ill try to find a carburetor if i cant ill buy the weber and make an adaptor plate. but why do i need one its a two barrel carb isn't it and i have the same manifold as you guys. so i don't think ill need one and that bottem black thing is the same ill try to get a pic of what im talking about.
can't we just ask one of the Malaysian guys to order a set for us it looks like they have a ton of accords with them.
ok since your guys ar all PMSing ill give a list of all the questions i want answered.
question 1
first the carburetor I know the weber might not fit directly. but since i have a 2 barrel carb already and mount flange is the exact same as yours wouldn't it just drop right in. it looks like this one http://oem.thepartsbin.com/parts/the...ll&part=Carbur
question two
were do i get JDM headlights. i know you can't just order them but what if someone with a jdm car orders them then ships them too you. or at least finds one and strips it of all its JDM stuff.
question 3
is the A20A motor pretty much a direct swap or do i have to make custom mounts and drive shafts and a custom fuel system.
i found the pick of what i was talking about it was the mount flange
http://oem.thepartsbin.com/parts/the...ll&part=Carbur
it looks very close if not the same as that
Actually, our cars here in the US have a different intake manifold. We have 3bbl carbs because the heads on our engines are CVCC. I do believe though that your car will have the same mounting flange as some other Accords up there and probably many older Civics as well. What you kinda should do is take your carb off of your motor and measure up the shape of the mounting flange, or get a good idea what it looks like. Then you can compare it to pics online, or even hit up the wrecking yard and check out some other Hondas to see what theirs look like. If they have the same mounting plates, then you know that you can buy a Weber adapter kit for those cars and use them on yours.
Yes the Weber is a 2bbl carb, but the bolt holes are in different locations. That's why you can't just bolt it on to your car. And I know that the CVCC engines like mine have an almost completely different flange from yours...
That part you linked, that star shaped pattern on the very bottom of that flange is what our Weber adapter plates are shaped like. You need something more like the top of that flange.
Yeah, that's all you had to do in the first place. See now we can answer all your questions in one place.
Question 1) I'll refer you back to this thread, cos I don't wanna type it again: https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58194
Question 2) You're right, the only way to get them is to contact somebody in a country where they have them. Just PM somebody who you see with a set of them. Or someone who is from one of those countries. That's what I'd recommend.
Question 3) Since you have the A16, any of the A-series engines should swap in just fine. You should be able to use all your existing motor mounts, and bolt your transmission right up to the A20. Easy as pie.
Nobody was PMSing. It just makes it impossible to answer your questions when you posted "HOW DO I DO A20 ENGINE SWAP" in a thread that had nothing to do with that. You posted in a whole ton of threads with the same questions, so how do you expect us to answer?
You could try asking one of the malaysian members.... although I think the biggest issue dealing with them is still the language barrier. GL though, cuz those headlights look great on the 2g's
what car do you think has close to the mount i have? i'm guessing a no cvcc civic.
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Originally Posted by Holy^ghost
just put in a a20a1
if i had 600 bucks for the engine and a place to do it i would. but any way i got pics of my mount flange and ill put them up ASAP
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9...1451pv8.th.jpg
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heres a pic of my mount flange what other cars does it look like?
Hmm, sweet pictures. I'm not 100% sure which cars have those, but theres lots. It looks like the same as the 1g Accord. Just look online at Weber adapter kits... www.piercemanifolds.com
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/Catalogpages/honda.htm
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/Image.../99004.100.htm
That looks right to me.
so i should order the weber K624 kit. that adapter looks about right but will the carburetor fit right in or will have have to make linkage changes. and will my cruise control still work?
i cant find a pic of a 1st gen mount flange can you please take a pic of the one off your accord or someones i want to compare it. because my flange looks like the one off the older crx's
Man, I dunno. Either way the carb is going to work on those adapter plates. It's a little tricky to set up the carb linkage, but the question is will the adapter plate work on your intake manifold. I can go take a picture of my intake manifold, but I don't know how close it's going to be. The CRX manifolds have a REALLY unusual shape, so I don't know what to tell ya about that.
I think your best bet is to print off that list of carb adapters, and go to the wrecking yard and measure which intake manifolds on that list have the same adapter plate. I'm going to guess the old Non CVCC Civics.
i think this adapter plate will fit it looks almost exact to mine.
http://www.carburetion.com/weber/Dat...4&Model=ACCORD
ok ive looked at the adapter plates i have it down to 3 please tell me which one would be best for my flange
http://www.redlineweber.com/html/gaskets/99005.490.htm
http://www.redlineweber.com/html/gaskets/99005.333.htm
http://www.redlineweber.com/html/gaskets/99005.551.htm
take a look and tell me which one you think is best
I have some better pic of my mount flange and gasket maybe this will help you help me find an adapter plate for it.
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It looks different from my 1st gen. But then my engine is 1602cc EL1 non cvcc. I don't know how different is it with EK1. I'll see if I can find the pics later.
thanks could I just make one out of glue and cardboard my dad did it with his 1968 sport fury so that might work
I don't have any better idea than you might on which one will fit. It's going to be trial and error from here on out unless you do some research. You may be the first person to fit a Weber on an A16. But you know, the Weber isn't easy to tune if you have never worked on carbs. You have to be very patient, change jets, test drive the car, etc. You could spend the whole day tweaking the car to make it run right. It's far from plug and play. The linkage can be tough to set up right, and theres a good chance that the Weber you buy won't even run in your car out of the box... The whole reason I went to Weber was because of the complete hell that the ES2 emissions control systems are. Your factory carbs are CAKE compared to the ES2...
Sorry for the crappy pics. This is the only pics that I have in my computer:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ase/IMG001.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ase/IMG002.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ase/IMG003.jpg
They look a bit different than yours from what I can see
Well the good news is that the A16 and the EL are going to be the closest of any different engines. They're both Non-CVCC, non US, Accord engines with the same displacement.
looks close enough ill see what i can do. i would get a stock carb the problem is i cant find another 1.6 in the junk yard and the dealer doesn't have them. im pretty sure i can get the car to start but i might have to fumble with jets so it doesn't idle all weird. does the weber come with different jets or do i have to buy other ones. and what year is that accord of yours.
man i need to figure out something if i dont find a carb in a junkyard somewhere the car is useless. unless there is some way for me to fit on a weber carb. what if i just get some un-made gasket material and make an adapter out of that. cause i'm screwed other wise.
ok well since i'm pretty much out of options besides an engine swap. could i swap the manifold from an es2 and put it into my A16. or is the block actually different. because I think the block is the same size its just that the bore and stroke are different.
ok! as someone pointed out to you, you dont need to open a new thread every time you have a question. theres 11 or so you can ask this same question on.
Go to the parts store and order a manifold gasket for every a-series engine you can think of, including your own. Go to the store, compare them to the A16 gasket and any that match exactly indicates a manifold that you can swap. Now go to a different parts store because this one will hate you now.
if not...get an a20 head on your motor...and use the a20 intake
The ES2 probably won't work. Again due to the CVCC system. It has a seperate passage, I believe, due to the 3rd barrel in the carb.
Gasket material won't make an adapter plate. I guess I don't understand what the problem is with your car. I think you need to figure out whats wrong before you just go throwing new carbs at it. What if the carb isn't your problem?
ohh the carb is the problem see the cast for the accel pump fell off and theres a crack in the float bowl. SO I NEED A NEW CARB. now would the manifold from an es2 work. if not what about an A18 and is the A
18 close enough to the es2.
FUCK im fucked. ok what about an A18 and is there a weber for the A18 that i could put on. if not what about an engine swap to the A18. what parts do i need cause i don't have allot of money. could i do it for under 500. better yet wtf can i do for under 500?.
how about this eather buy a new car or deal with the motor u have now lol its just gona cost to much money to do a swap
Did you just type that with your face?Quote:
Originally Posted by ghettogeddy
Seriously if you are tired with the A16, pick up any used A-series complete with carbs. Try and get a common engine, so you won't have this parts problem again, and maybe get a little more power out of it. As for the manifold/carb/webber bs you're on your own, but I'm sure the solution isn't that difficult.
ok im typing this with my old ass 2gee im about to kill. so anyway what is the most common engine i can swap into this with out having to do a major over haul. let me guess A20A1 or A18A1.. which has the most horse power i wan it to actually go somewhat faster and have over 100hp
