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i wasnt mad. i cant type the same way i talk. i hardly ever get mad unless someone does somthing bad to my car.Quote:
Originally posted by Mike's89AccordLX
Dude I was just saying you were offline (not on 3geez) Don't take shit personal. Thanks for hosting it by the way.
I just wanted to make sure you weren't mad for something I said. Yeah I can't type how I talk either.
Update!!! I just got done cuttine the bottome of the ram air box, and screwing on the hinges (making sure it works like I planned), and putting silicone on all the edges that are non-moving parts. I think I'm going to use the dremel to grind down the screw tips inside the box. The filter won't touch them but I just want something to do. :D
you can make me one for free since i hosted your pic
I can make a how to for everyone if people want. The bad thing is, it's only for my type of filter. So if you have a bigger filter the box I have won't work. It actually isn't that time consuming if you have all the parts right there. I didn't have the parts right there I just had some old plexi-glass and started cutting stuff up and then I needed more plex-glass and the parts.
why can we just use an intercooler, just with out the turbo.
Intercooler is good when the air is hot... but chances are the air your're getting on the outside will be cooler then air cooled by the cool air.
Now if you got some kind of CO2 cooled section of intake pipe then that would cool the incomming air below the outside temp.
Best bet is add heat spacers to the intake manifold and Throttle body and intake pipe and then remove the coolant hose that heats up the manifold.
I dont know if this has been said yet but it is said that if you spray your intercooler with carbondioxide or nitrous oxide lowers the surface temp which ices down the intake charge.
Could you fit something that could suck the air into some kind of housing unit that would super cool air then spray it directly to where you'd want the super cooled air to go ? Maybe mod the current A/C system to have a secondary housing for air that we want cooled then sprayed onto the area of motor we want cooled ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TeKKnoTeKK
So what about the idea of putting the vent like on the mustangs to allow for the hot air around to engine to flow out? If you could get it to look right what type of an effect would this have on the engine...other than it running just a few degrees cooler
Uh......what about if hook you intake to your A/C vent, that way just turn the A/C on to get cold air LOLOLOL :D:D
Why not just install a seperate A/C type unit for the cold air intake. Cut the tube so you can put a freon canister between the filter and the EFI or Carb and you can turn it on and off when you want some colder air. Not sure how freon would mess up and engine tho. Wouldn't want to go boom when you are just trying to get to work.
How 'bout we just all move to Canada, and get all the cold air we want?
lol why not north dakota in the winter. Then we'd get real cold air.
Ok, now this may seem retartded, but i moved my battery to the trunk. I was thinking of converting my Cold Air Intake and making it a ram air by using the space the the battery left behind for a pretty swift little box with a drain and cutting a hold in the hood right in the area between the cross members above the box and have a seal so that when the hood is closed it is sealed to she scoop and when the hood is open you can visually inspect the filter. i planned on making the box out of steal like my CAI which i made from steel anyway, just the rushing air on the steal alone shold drop the air temp a little like a heat sink. and the wrap the charge pipe for the little device in heat wrap and insulation to sheild it from engine heat and the ambient heat that usually plagues a CAI. sound like it will work?
oh, i forgot one thing.... on my cold air intake i did experiments! I found that welding fins to the pipe to help disipate heat works well. I used a little air temp thing they have in jeeps and RV's to read my intake air temp. With fins on it i droped about 4 degrees.
I am thinking about fabricating something up, but I would like others opinions first. i was looking over the design for intercoolers. This is what I want to do.
Your basic intercooler consists of a housing, filter, and two pipes. What I want to fabricate will be a housing, filter, and one piple, leading straight into your intake system for EFI for the adapter from the civic for the carb guys like me.
I can get the filter, and fabricate the housing, and make the piping just right. BUT my question. With this design, Wouldnt it be better than a regular short ram?
Also the front of it will have a removable plastic shield to protect against everyday driving, but can be removed when power is needed.
Thoughts, ideas?
EDIT!!!
A cheaper/smaller version of this
http://store.gaugemagazine.com/Produ...es/15-1099.jpg
you, may as well put the filter in the fender. this way it will suck a lot omore cold air.
the problem with true CAI is that if you live in a place where there is a lot of rain, you will be sucking water through your filter unless you put AEM bypass filter that helps eliminate the water.
since you are a carb guy, i would recomend hood scoop for the filter.
here is what you do. remove the vacuum lines.
after you remove all the lines, charcoal canister, black box, and some other crap.
you will have a lot of room on passenger side firewall.
relocate the battery closer to the fire wall. now you can build a box where the battery used to be. build a box to keep the how air out and bring the fresh air in through the hood scoop. this way, if you want to close the scoop, you still getting a colder air.
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do not buy that POS filter system.
according to the company it will push the air into the engine.
well, if you look at the piping, there is no way it will flow faster. it has almost double amount of piping or curves as AEM true CAI system.
they used this filter on Horse Power TV one time. it was project Civic. they only gained 3hp. where with AEM style air intake you can get a hole lot more.
Thanks alot Alex. I appreciate the comments. I was just trying to think of a better way of getting air in. I suppose I am headed back to the old drawing board.
the short ram is great tho..i just installed mine today....its like a 22 degree bend the straight into the intake.......with a cold ain intake you have too many bends...i was told one 90 degree bend is the same power loss as 10 feet of pipe. the more direct the better....next im gonna do the hoodscoop....soon as i move the batt to the trunk.
Stick that filter right under a WRX style scoop and seal it good... 90 degree bend 180 degree... doesn't matter... It will work, hands down.
Just pray you don't get rained on... however you can always fabricate a flap that will block the scoops intake while opening a new passage for air to be drawn in from the engine bay... reducing the risk of water entering the filter... no real worry about performance loss since you wont be racing when its raining right? hehe
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You're carbed... hmm I may have something better.
Yeah, but I am going off the design of that one above... That one inparticular is too big for our bumper... BUT if you look it has a removable plastic shield on the front to keep the rain out.Quote:
Originally Posted by A20A1
Alex, yeah, Horsepower TV is where I saw it...
I am just thinking it would be better than short ram...
it is better than short ram, but by not much.
the other thing you can do is use the same technic i told you by isolating the filter, but use the scoop with a flap that can be activated when you floor it.
it is something old american cars used to have.
it was active hood scoop. it works from manifold vacuum pressure.
I saw that episode. That was the gain while the car was hooked up to the computer. they never did say what the true increase was when they actually took the car on the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by shepherd79
just by looking at that filter design it doesn't look much better than stock.
go with shepherd79's system, or make the CAI from the how-to, that's what i'm doing. although i guess that wouldn't do to well w/ a carb. i'm doing mine after the EFI conversion.
what is this horsepower tv never heard of it.what channel? nman i hope thats your old ladys ass and not yours.jokey joke. :rice: hood scoop shmoop stick a coffee can on it. the ribs in the can make a (spiral down draft intake wind tunnel) patent pending.and youll be able to literally fly past a fast and the furious car at mach 1.i know i know i didnt believe it iether untill a 3 geez member proved it. you see the secret is to convert your fuel system to run off coffee theres a converter that extracts pure caffine out of the coffe and turns it to super ricerocket fuel. 1 can lasts a whole week and everytime you need more fuel you get a shiny new hoodscoop for almost free.and concerning that little lawsuit where the can flew off bashed threw the windshield and stuck in the passengers head.it was a faulty install the driver clearly did not use enough of the provided ducktape to properly attatch the super scoop. gehtoriggers inc exepts no liability for failure to read our detailed instructions that are provided with the kit. we also exept no responsibility for lost instruction manuals during shipping. so if you want your car to go faster then bill clinton can blow a wad in an interns mouth get your self a ghettoriggers inc superscopp with(spiral downdraft intake windtunnel) patent pending. only 19.99. this has been an unpaid advertisement brought to you by the people who invented the ported rear dash and the ford pinto............................................. ...damn i could sell anything. ahe sorry about that guys it just came to me but tell me i had you for a second right...right. coffee can hood scoop guy you know we luv you and were gonna cut you in on the sales to baby.
