Hi Rev and guage face question

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06-22-2003, 05:42 PM
diegoaccord

Hi Rev and guage face question

Ok, I know the A20A1 can spin to(at least) 8300, because I took my 89 Accord sedan DX that I used to have past tach numbers many times. The physical rev limit may be 9000+ R/MIN. So my questions. Since there are no fuel maps to play with, how could an A20A1 get enough fuel at 8500 to make power? And a Nissan non turbo SR20DE has a redline of 7500, and is a 2.0 as is the Accord, so wouldnt the intake cam(more aggressive of the 2) fit the A20 head ?(guessing the cylinders have near the same space between)
Think: a reground SR20 intake cam could make peak at 8000+, add high RPM fuel delivery, head flow work, and a FAST carb that can rev as Hondas are supposed to.

Guage faces. Could somone make a tach face that looks factory, and has redline at 8300, and max at 9000?
06-22-2003, 05:49 PM
dXsquared

www.feetman.com

check this out.. click on the girl and it will have some info about a cam shaft that will work to 8000 RPM

Travis
06-22-2003, 05:55 PM
wikkedv15

are u shitting me....
06-22-2003, 05:58 PM
dXsquared

no really.. check out that website... its all about putting nissan cams into honda motors

Travis
06-22-2003, 06:14 PM
diegoaccord

I know about that site. You idiot, what HONDA non VTEC cam can rev that high? None that will fit. A VTEC cam has too many lobes, and definitely will not line up, genius. I remember people on here not being asses. I need the A20A1 to rev high and be quick until a B16A is used. You are acting like the 92+ Civic peolpe at AF.
06-22-2003, 06:16 PM
dXsquared

i am? you wanna put a Nissan Cam in a fuckin old ass accord.. just get a reground cam and some yellow type r stickers and yo will have B16 performance!

Travis
06-22-2003, 07:57 PM
diegoaccord

If the stock accord cam is good for 5800, the maximum regrind may up that by 1500. Start with a higher cam, end with higher R/MIN. And stop being a brand nazi, Nissan has better engines than Honda anyway, Hondas, for the most part just look better.
06-22-2003, 08:04 PM
Sabz5150

Quote:

Originally posted by diegoaccord
If the stock accord cam is good for 5800, the maximum regrind may up that by 1500. Start with a higher cam, end with higher R/MIN. And stop being a brand nazi, Nissan has better engines than Honda anyway, Hondas, for the most part just look better.

5800? The redline is higher than that! I have no issues revving to 6500 with my Openloop cam (although it can prolly go much higher). I wouldn't mind taking my redline up a few grand. 9000 would be divine for me :) I am definitely willing to dump the cash into an A20A3 to rev to 9K.
06-22-2003, 08:19 PM
dXsquared

your a real idiot arent you! you cant just swap parts from one car to the next... thats where you are all fucked up.. i wanna put an edelbrock manifold with a 750 holley on my car with a 454 cam.. but its not gonna work!

Travis
06-22-2003, 09:01 PM
diegoaccord

Quote:

Originally posted by Sabz5150
5800? The redline is higher than that!

The A20 can rev past 8000, I ve done it, 5800 is peak power.

And that other punk. A cam for a OHC 2.0 4 banger, is much more similar to each other, than a 750 cfm and OHV cam on the same car.
06-22-2003, 09:03 PM
MrBen

Same rule of thinking applies... :rolleyes:
06-22-2003, 09:30 PM
carotman

Quote:

The A20 can rev past 8000

Suuuuuuuuuure. And its making mad power there d00d!

That red line on the tach is only there so you don't unleash the armageddon hidden in the A20A
06-22-2003, 09:37 PM
dXsquared

hahaha

Travis
06-22-2003, 09:40 PM
diegoaccord

You are a fool as well. I had a DX, which means no rev limiter. Did I not say that 5800 is peak? but physically it was able to go past the "8" on the tach. why dont you read first, you must have ADD.
06-22-2003, 09:42 PM
dXsquared

well... i bet your gonna get banned ... you cant get mouthy with an administrator... your the guy with ADD...if you think you can put the cam from a SR20 cam in a 3g, you need a cat scan! and maybe a new brain

Travis
06-22-2003, 09:43 PM
dXsquared

oh yah! and you must have been in neutral cause the fuel pump gets cut at 6500 and there isnt enuff fuel in the float bowl to support the engine to 8300 RPM...

nice try tho

Travis
06-22-2003, 09:47 PM
MrBen

Yeah, and mostly morons take it up to that high RPMs on a regular basis... that's just begging for a fried engine.
06-22-2003, 10:43 PM
diegoaccord

I dont about your Accords, but I could do 8000+, granted it was just noise, but I could. And there definetely isnt enough fuel, but in a carb car, it will spin as high as you want it.
06-22-2003, 10:47 PM
hondacowboy003

IVe only gotten mine to 6200 rpm before. And as far as the Nissan cam interchanging, unless you plan on having the cam journals ground to fit the A20 head, your kinda SOL.
06-22-2003, 10:50 PM
MrBen

I can too, but what's the point? The redline is there for a reason--the engine simply isn't capable of handling that high RPM for a long period of time. I value my engine, though it is ready for a rebuild with 230,000 miles on it. I can still do 120+mph in it and beat many stock 3g's off the line.
06-22-2003, 11:15 PM
K DASH

How odd, my car can never go to redline if I floor it it'll get awfully close but never hit it, at least when its in gear, Ive never actually tried it in neutral or anything.
06-22-2003, 11:28 PM
dXsquared

but you have an automatic...right???

Travis
06-22-2003, 11:33 PM
K DASH

Yeah, its an auto.

I forgot that you can just leave it on D3 or D2 :stupid:

Its late, I'm not thinking straight.
06-22-2003, 11:52 PM
carotman

It WILL rev up to 8000 without problem in neutral. I've gone near 7000 once when my car was carbed.

However, you're really lucky not to bend some valves if you reach 8000.

The A20A head will not flow enough to let air in at those rpm levels.

What's up with people that want to rev their cars up to 10 grand these days. the A20A wasn't meant to rev past 6250 in stock form.

Ever heard of a power curve?

Oh, BTW, a cam that was designed to push on 8 valves will have a little trouble to push 12
06-23-2003, 12:35 AM
89AcCOrDmike

am i missing something here? why would you want to rev your car to 8 grand if it gives you NO MORE POWER?! If you want to be loud by a lawnmower
06-23-2003, 12:50 AM
MrBen

A weedwacker works better... that little trigger lets you rev it whenever you want. WUMMM! Wow a 1/2 horsey!!!
06-23-2003, 06:48 AM
Sabz5150

Quote:

Originally posted by carotman
It WILL rev up to 8000 without problem in neutral. I've gone near 7000 once when my car was carbed.

However, you're really lucky not to bend some valves if you reach 8000.

The A20A head will not flow enough to let air in at those rpm levels.

What's up with people that want to rev their cars up to 10 grand these days. the A20A wasn't meant to rev past 6250 in stock form.

Ever heard of a power curve?

Oh, BTW, a cam that was designed to push on 8 valves will have a little trouble to push 12

The B18 wasn't meant to rev past 7500 or so, but you've seen em rev past 10,000 and make power up there. Granted they're draggin' motors, but the possibilities are there.

An A20 can enjoy a redline of 9000 and make power all the way to it with the right work.... and a nice huffer.
06-23-2003, 06:53 AM
Sabz5150

Huff and puff and blow yer doors off!

http://www.hardracing.com/CARPARTS/CARImages/JRSC.jpg
06-23-2003, 10:11 AM
AccordEpicenter

if you rev well into 7k there is a possibility of smashing valves, breaking rods or pistons... for safety reasons i stay out of 7k, but with my current LXI im rev limited anyways. I hit 7850 in a 88lx before...
06-23-2003, 05:21 PM
iloveJDMblackrims69

this is all makin me laugh my ass off.....
06-23-2003, 07:52 PM
pimp86LX

lol, this thread is funny :D
06-23-2003, 09:18 PM
MrBen

It's sort of like seeing how far your seat will recline back.

"Well MY car's seats recline THIS far. So THERE."
06-23-2003, 09:32 PM
Sabz5150

Quote:

Originally posted by GhettoAccord
It's sort of like seeing how far your seat will recline back.

"Well MY car's seats recline THIS far. So THERE."

:lol