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can i still honestly say... muahahahaha!!!
a fantastic 409whp at a mere 12psi :Owned:
at 17psi, it made giant mid range power. top end dropped off because the injector size are too small. we should've gotten 750cc injectors, but no one expected this amount of power at just 12psi. 486whp could've easily been achieved with 750cc injectors. possibly just a little over 500whp. another problem was due to clutch slippage. again, no one expected these numbers. so a stage3 exedy clutch was opted for. now we have to get an exedy twin plate with flywheel. i have one video of the dyno or maybe a couple. as for runs, if i have time tonight. i'll get some video runs tonight. we had a little fun with the civic and accord. civic wins by a margin due to the accord spinning 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear. better tires will be used for traction. but it wasn't a good run, just a little 3rd gear pull and then a 3rd and 4th gear pull. i'll get better videos. pictures speak for themselves.... enjoy!
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/879...urbo8kg.th.jpg
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and just for fun...
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All I can say is.......WOW.
Very nice.
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thats insane. it has to be the best feeling to to drive a 3gee with so much raw power
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so i assume it was worth the $15,000???lol..
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that car is beautiful and fast...what more could you ask for?
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that car is beautiful and fast...what more could you ask for?
traction... :hs:
it was well worth the 15k. i'll post videos tomorrow or in a few days. as of now the car is running on the new falken azenis RT615 205/50/15 tires. it doesnt hold up to the 400+ hp so we're going to opt for running the bfG drag radials 225/55/15 everyday.
do keep in mind, this is an everyday driver on california piss gas 91 octane
:bow: jon
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omg you made that power on cali 91? Holy shit is that good numbers man. You are my hero now :) Now i have new goals muahaha. You need to get some slicks and hit up LACR or some shit man, i gotta have numbers for that ish
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HOLY bujesus!!! I got to see this....It looks like you have some power to spare. Wonder what it will do with all the kinks worked out. Nice one Wicked. You've been workin on that car for a minute.
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this is my new dream car...:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
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By the way Wicked how much do your watanabe rims weigh? I see you got them re-powder coated again.
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Glad you got it done.....LOOKS SWEET!!!!!!
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jon...
every 3g inspiration this man is a legend..
u rock
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wanna trade? :rockon:
ill give you mine for awhile, then we can trade back after i get a boosted b18 and such :P
friggin sweet car, i love it. Looks better now that the blue rims are gone... but thats just my opinion.
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wanna trade? :rockon:
ill give you mine for awhile, then we can trade back after i get a boosted b18 and such :P
friggin sweet car, i love it. Looks better now that the blue rims are gone... but thats just my opinion.
no offense but i wouldnt trade that car for anything. not even for a skyline saleen corvette viper whatever. this is my pride and joy. the car is me...
but the rims are my very first watanabe rs-8 rims. i just took it off, put it on my hatch. then used the blue panasports for awhile, then used another set of one peice bronze watanabe for awhile. sold that set to my friend, put the silver ones back on the accord. and got another rs-8 rims for my hatch.
the rims are pretty heavy too, it's made more for durability. being a forged 3 peice rim you would assume so. but even with so much power. weight on rims wont matter much.
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anyone got a napkin??? or towel?? i need something absorbant.:rockon: by far nicest setup on any 3g out there. good thing there are ppl that appreciate the 3g like u and everyone on the board. keep up the nice work.:bowrofl:
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Is that the Full Race setup?
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now that is awesome! post some more pics! also, i got a lip kit up for sale soon that would fit your car. interested? i'll be posting pics of that soon. anyways, awesome car. care to tell me what the engine setup consists of besides what is listed in your sig? also, where do you get all this money from? lol.
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fucking ricor.
when are you gonna be in a magazine jon?
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HOLY CRAPOLLA!!...
you are my hero, those numbers are huge. Congrats... Can't wait to see videos.
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well, I have just hit a state of deep depression. I love your car. Sickest thing I have ever freakin seen! Nice job.
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alright when are we going to have our next so cal meet so i can test drive this monster :D no seriously though we need to have another meet so we can see this car in action :rockon:
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nice. the fastest 3g that i know of & have personally seen, belongs to my old mechanic teacher. last time i check he was making around 350whp. he's selling it now though & moving on to a 99 style accord coupe with a better setup. i'll see if i can get some pics of his car someday.
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Wow dude that's sick! I would love to reach those numbers hell I'd love to reach half those number. :bow:
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Incredibly hot. Finally someone who's not affraid of dumping a lot of cash into a 3g. I hope we will be seing your car in the Honda Tuning mag at some time! It's more than qualified at the moment.
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Ok man, you can STOP rubbing it in.
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nice. the fastest 3g that i know of & have personally seen, belongs to my old mechanic teacher. last time i check he was making around 350whp. he's selling it now though & moving on to a 99 style accord coupe with a better setup. i'll see if i can get some pics of his car someday.
is his name mike out of illinois? some old guy in his late 60's. if so, i talk to him constantly online. he has a boosted built JDM b20a in that thing. about 500whp @ 24 psi. pretty sick car. here's an engine bay pic:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...6_214_full.jpg
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at 12psi you made 400hp+ at the wheels? hmmm Something is off here. I need to see the boost pressure at the given rpms to see if it is actually true. a 20V Audi head flows more than the B18 head (even tho you have it flowing more after all the head work). with the GT35R, you make 20whp for every 1psi of boost after 26psi. and that said, 406whp at 12psi seems far fetched. Its the kinda power a V8 with a 5.0L or more displacement would yield. Even the GT35R compressor map does not seem to go along with it.
PS: How much does your head flow (max with max lift)?
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at 12psi you made 400hp+ at the wheels? hmmm Something is off here. I need to see the boost pressure at the given rpms to see if it is actually true. a 20V Audi head flows more than the B18 head (even tho you have it flowing more after all the head work). with the GT35R, you make 20whp for every 1psi of boost after 26psi. and that said, 406whp at 12psi seems far fetched. Its the kinda power a V8 with a 5.0L or more displacement would yield. Even the GT35R compressor map does not seem to go along with it.
PS: How much does your head flow (max with max lift)?
There isn't any Audi head flow better than a Honda Dohc vtec head, especially a B16 P&P head.
406 hp is in hubs, because is a dynopack, not exactly at the wheels.
In a dynojet this figure will be slightly lower,abot 5%, even though 406 hp on Church dynopack is simply INCREDIBLE.
This motor is capable of 30+ psi ( without rebuilding every year) and 700+hp at the same Dyno, on race fuel.
Jon, I believe you and your car exist only in cartoons.
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is his name mike out of illinois? some old guy in his late 60's. if so, i talk to him constantly online. he has a boosted built JDM b20a in that thing. about 500whp @ 24 psi. pretty sick car. here's an engine bay pic:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...6_214_full.jpg
This engine has a crap exhaust maniflod, has somethink like water cooler
and NO SPECS, NO DYNO?? Sorry, I don't believe this engine make 500whp.
Say to your friend to post some specs and Dyno plots.
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time for a roll bar or roll cage
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Hey wicked to solve your traction problems, when you race at the track are you gonna add a wheelie bar?? Just saying cuz we all know that fwd car are known for not getting traction once you start getting that high.
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is his name mike out of illinois? some old guy in his late 60's. if so, i talk to him constantly online. he has a boosted built JDM b20a in that thing. about 500whp @ 24 psi. pretty sick car. here's an engine bay pic:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...6_214_full.jpg
yeah man that is him. great guy! i havent seen him in a while... i should pay him a visit to see how his projects are coming along.
*you even have pics of his next project!!
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...6_208_full.jpg
do you konw if he's a member on this board?
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Wow OH WOW And again i say WOWEE!!!!
That kind of performance should be:bandance:ed by the president!!!
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That is awesome. I hope to achieve good numbers like that soon. I'm not going to spend 15K though... As far as the clutch, the exedy twin plate is pimp. I don't have the $ for that though, so I bought the action 2ms.. I think a good option for injectors would be wrx injectors with the caps removed, supposedly that's around 740cc. They are high resistance obd-1 compatible injectors, so they don't need a resistor box, but you do have to get creative to make them fit properly. Those are what I have. But you probably don't want to do that, you'll just spend whatever to get whatever injectors you want..
What is a p30 ecu? p28 92-95 civic ex, p75 ls, p72 gsr, right?
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you def need to get that in a magazine,our cars never get any respect and would bring a lot to them
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Rad car wicked love the setup. i think you have inspired everyone on this site, Props on that. hopefully we get to see some more pics and some videos when you get some time. Congrats on the car again. you should get that thing in the SEMA show. that would be rad
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someone call import tuner, modified mag, and honda tuner. see which one likes the story first. because it must be told. and with better numbers than i see on a lot of integs and civics that they're always featuring.
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Congrats bro good to see that all your hard work, and money spent, payed off in the end .:thumbup:
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so uh.....whens the next cali meet? who's bringing the beer and meat? lol
thats it party at wicked's!!!!
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I'm down for another meet next month , i'll bring the beer!:alc:
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Don't let those piggies see under your hood if you get pulled over.. my ticket was 880$
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fuck yeah dude....lets do it
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fuck yeah dude....lets do it
Sweet lets figure out a date and try to get more cars/people to go,especially wickedaccord
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hey accordtheory, ive always wondered where exactly in cali are you?? oh and about the meet the sooner the better....cant wait to see this new set up in action :D
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holy shit accordtheory, you got caught? No cop has ever looked at my car 2x in ny. I drive around with NO dp and nobody cares.
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Sick!!! :eek: :bow: Congrats on getting all that done to for 3rdgen!!!!
Me arodillo!!
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anyway....about this meet. lol wicked where are you?????? and when can YOU do it?
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I am abosulutely amazed! Nice job wicked, I think you definitely have the fastest street accord that I have seen and it also looks damn good too.
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how hard is it to put in a cam i got the delta 272 grind its on the way now should i take it to the shop or do it my self i ve been practicing at the junk yard it seems easy what do you think
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I am abosulutely amazed! Nice job wicked, I think you definitely have the fastest street accord that I have seen and it also looks damn good too.
X2
Nice ass numbers now post some nice videos! :)
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Originally Posted by smufguy
at 12psi you made 400hp+ at the wheels? hmmm Something is off here. I need to see the boost pressure at the given rpms to see if it is actually true. a 20V Audi head flows more than the B18 head (even tho you have it flowing more after all the head work). with the GT35R, you make 20whp for every 1psi of boost after 26psi. and that said, 406whp at 12psi seems far fetched. Its the kinda power a V8 with a 5.0L or more displacement would yield. Even the GT35R compressor map does not seem to go along with it.
PS: How much does your head flow (max with max lift)?
new pic of the boost sheet is up on the first page. as you can see, the wastegate i have is a POS. i plan on upgrading it an hks 60mm wastegate. the wastegate i have couldnt hold boost pressure well enough. so i had a boost spike and couldnt hold boost consistently. as for my head, being ported and polished (street/strip spec) with multi-angle valve job. it would flow way better than an audi head. why do you think it takes 25psi for an audi to even make the kind of hp i make at just a mere 12psi.
most likely i'll be using RC 750cc injectors, i dont want to use wrx's just because i dont know how it flows and how it sprays. cant take that chance with my kind of set up. anyhow, i'm trying to get my friends prelude vtec turbo done and tuned for the next meet. i'll let all you so cal people know what's up later.
btw, i have my trust exhaust for sale. for any of you so cal people i will sell it to you for 150.00 dollars. i am throwing in an axle back es muffler with it that is a direct bolt on. let me know if any of you so cal people are interested. preferrable pick up only
:bow: Jon
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Great setup. I hope its well insured, cause it would really suck if it gets jacked after all that time and money spent. Painted black and with black seat covers it would look killer and not stand out to the thieves.
Waiting to see the videos, pm me if you need hosting space.
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wickedaccord, I'm not necessarily reccomending it to you, since you can afford the RC's and they drop right in, but I guess the wrx injector mod is done by all the guys with those cars now. One of my friends told me about it after he did it to his car. It's just a little cap you cut off, it's weird. You don't actually alter the new surface that the fuel sprays through, so you can't really mess it up, which I was worried about. He has the turboxs utec piggyback thing, and said he had to set the injector scalar to a over 740cc. I just like to do things different and save money, that's why I went with them. I haven't flow tested them to observe the spray pattern (an old fuel pump, battery or battery charger and little can of fuel is how I've done that before) but my friend's car idles and drives fine.
So, how did you get that little sticker on your license plate that tells the piglets not to oink at you? You just found a shop that was down? In my little shithole of a town, woodland, I can't find anyone. The police presence is absolutely stifling, overwhelming here, and it's not even that ghetto! Every single time I go Anywhere, even just a couple blocks down the street, I see multiple police cars, and they are complete assholes. They see a modified car, there is a good chance they will follow you. Sacramento got a big grant from the state to teach the pigs how to spot modded cars, what to look for, what sections of the vehicle code to memorize, everything from ride height to tint to exhaust to everything they can see under your hood. In woodland, one of them ran up on me at night about a foot off my bumper with his high beams on, so I couldn't tell he was a pig, and then when I dropped it into 2nd to put some safe distance between us, he got me for speeding at the next light! I got a ticket for riding one of those tiny gas scooters that you stand on, for fuck's sake! I remember my mom telling me one time about how she went to the smog shop she always used to go to, and saw the pigs leading the guy away in cuffs..now none of these shops are taking chances anymore, I guess.
And I hope you have a good alarm, one of those that's outrageously loud and pages you, because if it's like here where you are, shit..2 of my friend's cars got jacked recently, an ls/vtec civic and a crx. My car was broken into once, my stereo and cds got stolen, and they tore my dash to shit with a foot long screwdrive to get my cd player out.
shit..I take back what I said earlier, maybe it is ghetto where I live..
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Yes!!! maybe is not only the injector problem, but also the wastegate which canot hold proper pressure:
just you all, look again at the two graphs posted by jon:
http://img435.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ures0111pr.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?im...esturbo8kg.jpg
at the point where the wastegate hold 17 psi we have huge gains,but then after the power droped at the same levels as the 12 psi graph , because the
wastegate canot hold proper boost until 8000rpm.
Jon's engine is incredible, the best 2.0L TURBO VTEC in the world.
For comparison please look the Dyno graphs(at the same Dyno) of a new K20 I-VTEC TURBO running constant 9-10psi ( no wastegate problems) Hondata tuned with T3/4 hybrid capable of 550hp:
http://www.hondata.com/dynok20a2guardian.html
..........barely 300 hp......
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Damn I would love to see this car in action.
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how hard is it to put in a cam i got the delta 272 grind its on the way now should i take it to the shop or do it my self i ve been practicing at the junk yard it seems easy what do you think
do it yourself budd.. take your time and learn it. dont waste money and have to worry about some jackass ruining it. i've always said, if you can play with lego's. you can work on a car. good luck budd
:bow: jon
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wow jon ur car is realy the the worlds most powerful street 89 accord, dude thats so hot, so when are u going to do the next dyno run?
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thanks for all the great comments. again it's all greatly appreciated, it's been a long hard stinken road but it's all what i wanted. just a true street sleeping terror.
video's are up to view!! thanks to keruhas184 for hosting the videos!!
:bow: jon
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dam Jon thats one crazy vid, so all ur buds went turbo thats cool how did the lube do???
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the prelude is still being finished. we need to finish up it's exhaust come monday then prep it up for dyno tuning. hopefully it'll be tuned this coming wednesday.
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thats cool man, how much do u think the lube is going to push out?
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we figure about 320whp and 300lb of tq. due to it's 2.4 liter set up. 320whp on 10psi "hopefully" i hope it doesnt out shoot my civic like the accord did. scared the shit out of me when the accords numbers came up on such low boost.
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thats fucking amazing Jon u have a sweet crew of cars man u guys really know what u guys are doing, im not saying that no one else dose but u really out did ur self.
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So, will you be attending the next car meet here in so cal? :)
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So, will you be attending the next car meet here in so cal? :)
lol...
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thanks ab.. it took a lot of planning, researching, sacrifices, trial and error, and team work. but i will attend the next meeting
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Sweetness. You will be the envy of everyone, lol. :)
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cool...ok fuckers lets start planning it. i say in mid feb of course on a weekend because i go to school now. during the week (not that any of you care) but probably by that time i will have my new rims!!!! so where is this one going to be?
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Who know's.. Haha.. Feb is far. :p
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jon the fucking car is sooooo hot... i am really looking forward to some timeslips when the tracks open up...
i know my my will be fast, but pretty damn sure its not gonna be 400+ whp fast! im stoked on you finishing the setep, and its about damn time that we get some recognition for the 3g, that car is CERTAINLY magazine worthy... even though u turned to the darkside with the B series, its allllll good.
keep me posted on the pics, and if u need video or pic hosting anytime i have a bit of bandwidth i can spare. :)
keep us all posted man.
-chris
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so when is this meet going to be???
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man thas hot ish... dang!!!
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I'm waiting for the day I see a 3g on the cover of Honda Tuning... I have a feeling it will be yours man. Hopefully when I come to Cali this summer I can make it to a meet and see this beast
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Holy, I cant believe those numbers, thatll walk on anything factory produced thats for sure. What does it weigh in at now? Nice motor too ;)
BTW whats with the rad like that? Is that temporary? other than that, kleeeen
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I give you mad props wicked cause your always on to something good and your hard work has paid off. I know what goes into a project like this so i know you have a lot of time/money in that car and im glad to see its paid off. And im with you on not trading the car i get attention with my car and it looks pretty crappy but when i had it out last summer i would get a lot of attention and props for doing something original and different.
Congrats!
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I give you mad props wicked cause your always on to something good and your hard work has paid off. I know what goes into a project like this so i know you have a lot of time/money in that car and im glad to see its paid off. And im with you on not trading the car i get attention with my car and it looks pretty crappy but when i had it out last summer i would get a lot of attention and props for doing something original and different.
Congrats!
hey thanks, the work was well worth it. and i'm glad you understand my stand point of view from putting so much effort, time and money into this. the attention like you say is original and different. but that's why we did what we did to our cars right? for that kind of attention and respect. i dont know what happened to your car but last i saw, it was b20 turbo with some issues. i was happy to hear another person was able to have the heart and dedication as i did to go this far with an 89accord. thanks bro, your words are appreciated.
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hey thanks, the work was well worth it. and i'm glad you understand my stand point of view from putting so much effort, time and money into this. the attention like you say is original and different. but that's why we did what we did to our cars right? for that kind of attention and respect. i dont know what happened to your car but last i saw, it was b20 turbo with some issues. i was happy to hear another person was able to have the heart and dedication as i did to go this far with an 89accord. thanks bro, your words are appreciated.
I still have it its just been on hold for a bit cause I have a lot going on now that im out of school and I just bought a 06 Legacy GT for a daily driver. Im either going to strip the entire car and restore it all which will probably take the whole year or just fix the B20A and have another summer with the body as is then rip it apart next fall. I knew i was in for a ride by doing something out of the ordinary and unfortunately i ran into some big problems which ultimately came from poor machine shop work other than my one screw up. Then again you live and learn and this is how it works so i will keep going until its done.
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wow! My compliments on that project, musta taken months if not a year to do that. i notice long lug studs. wheredja gettem? I want to put bigger wheels, but my lugs dontt even expose 1 thread on the stock lugs. thanks.
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That is crazy sick! That car is as beautiful as it is powerful.
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Hey when are the vids coming???
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lol he already posted them
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the vids are in the other thread were he posted his dynoed numbers :rockon:
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Yeah somehow I missed em...
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Hey, Jon, what kind of tires are those? I forgot to ask.. They make me want a set, lol.
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what's goin on cory.. the tires that the accord has on now are the bfg drag radials in the front and falken azenis sport rt615 in the rear.
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Call me stupid.. But drag radials are street legal right?
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DOT approved drag radials are street legal. but im not sure which are/aren't DOT approved
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wow jon, good stuff man. congrats, i'd shit jagged stones for a car like that.
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to me, everything is street legl as long as you dont get caught