Silly noob. :D

Hey there, everyone. My name's Sean, and I'm the somewhat proud owner of a 1989 Accord LXi. The power moonroof is just radical, it's so space age and... yeah. Here she is.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48.../Accord001.jpg

The first things I'm looking to do are to restore the stock appearance of the moulding and weather stripping, but I have NOT been able to track these parts down. Also, the previous owner ah... well, he decided to have some escapades in the back seat shall we say, and due to the smell it lets during the rainy season, I'd like to replace that as well. Lastly we come down to the removal of a few irritating stickers the previous owner apparently found charming.

Once this is done, I'm hoping to turn my motor, which I believe is an A20A3, into a 300hp daily driver. I literally have no idea where to begin, but I know for the most part what major parts do what, so you won't need to treat me like a brain-dead sloth. :D I'm completely open for discussion on any of these issues, and hopefully look forward to talking with more from my 3rd gen brethren :D

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Nice LXi :D

Haha, you say that now! Thanks though, of course! ;D Actually, it's very clean. The dash panel doesn't even have dust behind it, and the plastic is without scratches! There's a few minor splotches on the carpet in the interior, but they're not so bad, and will probably come out. I'll be replacing the floor mats, anyway. Is that yours there in your sig?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48.../Accord002.jpg

This is my only interior shot. When I pick the car back up from the shop this weekend, I'll take some more. :D The glove box rattles a bit, that's why it's open. The stereo is being replaced, the original was P.O.S., lol.

Yeah thats my Heap....:D

Haha doesn't look like a heap in the image! Looks a lot slicker than my used car lot fancy box with wheels ;p

nice car....more pics please? and how do you plan on your 300hp? dare i say another turbo 3g?

Nice accord
but i think its a 86-87 accord cuz of the front bumper
more pics more pics more pics more pics more pics

welcom have fun use the search button and dont ask if u can put a h22 with little mod cause u cant lol but no really u cant lol, and more pics would be great dose your camera do regular pics or just saphire

car looks clean and straight:thumbup:

Thanks, yeah lol I'm not putting in an H22. My father had a 94 Civic DX he put an H22 in-- that was some funny stuff. People would rull up to this completely stock-looking Civic, and they didn't notice the flat black 3-inch straight pipe. :P White, lip kit only, tinted windows and an OEM spoiler-- so subtle they never see it coming! That's the kind of car I want. :)

As far as 300hp goes, that's correct... I'm thinking of going turbo, but I'd still like it to be my daily driver, and thinking a smallish turbo at around 8-10 psi would do it. And, no, I'm 99% sure it's a 1989 even though I don't have the paper in front of me at the moment. The previous owner did some things with it, as they had trashed some exterior parts in a minor accident. Maybe they decided to pull a Sil-eighty and replace the bumper with another one they liked?

Right now, it's bone stock except for the idiotic cat-back exhaust with a resonator that the last owner installed. Lol, it's so damn loud... I work the accelerator so gently so people won't think I'm an ass. :P

well the grille also screams 86-87. the grille on the 86-87 is different than the 88-89. whats the eight number from the right on the vin ill let you know what year it is :D

Lol, you guys have this down to a science! I don't know. The car's been in the shop, I just found this site and was like sweet! My friend's got a 240SX and he always wahwahs about this site he's got for his, so now I have a forum for mine. ;) He's getting an RB25DET for his, so I figure we'll be side by side if I get some things done with my girl. When I pick it up later today, I'll bring back more pics and info.

well here ill make it easier for ya. checkthe eighth letter starting from the right of the vin to see what year it is

G = 86
H = 87
J = 88
K = 89

easy huh?

AWESOME, Dude 5 SPeed Swap that mug ASAP!!!

for 300 HP you will have to do turbo....i think the highest NA build was 205 or something like that....and it was by no means a daily driver

Haha, 205. Okay so I went down to pick it up, and it was sitting in the lot--disabled. I didn't take my camera, so I couldn't take any pictures. Guess I'll have to head down on Wednesday and pick it up when the guy is actually there. It's a bad part of town, so I can see why he disabled it (no stealy thxpls).

Also, I checked the VIN# on my registration papers. It's a K-- 1989. By the way, how would one go about changing it to a 5spd? Wouldn't I need to replace like 2000$ worth of parts? lol

ya just about, but u can get 99% of it really cheap from a junkyard.

Hm, I dunno about that then. I don't think $2000 worth of junk is going in my car. ;)

I did my swap fir a little under $500, and that was with a brand new axel, clutch, flywheel and clutch cable. If you do all junkyard parts i dont see why it cant be dont for $350. I had an automatic in my car but it couldnt handle the power of the mods i did, so i doubt it will hold 300. You will have to do a 5-speed swap with like a stage 2 clutch with that power if not higher. The only way to reach 300whp from a baseline of about 100whp is to do a turbo or nitrious, turbo being the best choice along with a long list of parts. The whole turbo setup will have to be custom including the manifold. Other parts will be hard to find and expensive. 300whp is possible and it has been done, but it wont be easy or cheap. The first thing you should do is a 5-speed swap and learn how to drive it(unless you already know how). Then go and get a junkyard motor and strip it down and start building it back up.

Why would I want to buy a new motor, though?

I see what you're saying about the 5spd. I hadn't thought about those issues yet, I just set a number in my mind and hoped to reach for it. As I said, I'm not very experienced YET, but I'm trying to learn more. Right now, I'm at the point where I've set a goal, now I need to move on to what I need to accomplish that goal. :D Would you happen to know what parts I would need, all of them, exactly? If you did, I would appreciate the help immensely. I can query local yards for prices on my own, unless you know a website that does that stuff. ;P

Hrm, actually that sounds like quite a task haha! So, if I switch to the turbo, I'm going to need to go to 5spd? :/ I just had my current auto replaced at a rate of $500, damn good deal for a rebuild and installed. Where am I going to want to start? Converting my car to 5spd, then the boost controller+turbo+intercooler? What else will I need to install it? :o Parts wise.

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showpost.php?...86&postcount=6

Found it! The forums were daunting me before, but now I feel a little more comfortable navigating about. :)

Did my 5 spdr for $200!

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Did my 5 spdr for $200!

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Really? Hm.... Okay, so when you guys say you did your swaps for this, you're excluding the price of labor. I'll assure you, I'm no mechanic. ;P I know a lot of complicated work will be involved, and I'm not sure what all I'd be changing, even with that FAQ, which is VERY helpful. First of all, I'm going to want to prepare the transmission in advance to accept the horsepower I plan to achieve (no sense spending more money for nothing right?), so I'm assuming the clutch/flywheel aren't going to be sufficient.

Well to have a 300whp (or even close)daily driver you will have to rebuild the motor, so if you get a extra motor you will have a shorter down time. As far as parts go im not sure on everything. How much are you looking to spend??? Even if you do all the work yourself you looking at spending a couple thousand dollars. If you do a stock rebuild with a cam shaft and ADJ gear, a few ignition upgrades, a 5-speed swap and turbo setup with like 8-10psi you can probably get around 200hp.

id highly reccomend a built motor for 300hp. You could probably do it at 15-17psi depending on the setup. It would be one fast ass car though. Dont kid yourself, built motor and 300+ hp arent cheap.

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Originally Posted by LiTtLe xOx BitT

Well to have a 300whp (or even close)daily driver you will have to rebuild the motor, so if you get a extra motor you will have a shorter down time. As far as parts go im not sure on everything. How much are you looking to spend??? Even if you do all the work yourself you looking at spending a couple thousand dollars. If you do a stock rebuild with a cam shaft and ADJ gear, a few ignition upgrades, a 5-speed swap and turbo setup with like 8-10psi you can probably get around 200hp.

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How much would this cost? That sounds like it would be a good place to start. I plan for this to take place over the next year and a half, so there will be at least a good $6000 available (minding of course that I'll spend less than $2000 of that on the car). However, the 300hp figure was just a number I decided I'd like to reach when all is said and done, and as I'm sure I don't have to tell you, projects always go on for a long time =P The stock rebuild + 5spd sounds like a good place to start. What's your estimate on the rebuild, minus the cost of the auto/5spd swap?

Not too shabby! Good luck with your build.

Not to bring this back up.. But you can tell is an 88-89 just by looking at the side moldings. The 86-87 has square moldings without the nifty dip in the middle. lol..

It just has an 86-87 front bumper because of a run in with the ass end of another car, i bet.

i dont think a stock or rebuilt bottom end on the motor will support 300hp reliably, forged pistons are a really really good idea at that power level. Hmm as to what it would cost... Ill have to get back to you on that

Just one question-- how reliable is this 5spd swap? Like am I running a big risk inherent in the procedure, or is a simple matter of swapping out parts and drilling a few holes?

no drilling holes, its all bolt in, swap out part for part. It takes a while but as swaps go its not that hard.

Okay. I have a friend that's pretty good at this sort of thing, plus his father who used to own a shop for years and has all the tools to do it. Would I need to raise the car completely and take out the transmission entirely?

When did you peaple lert to by a manual gear car? A automatick or shud i sei Hondamatic are boring car to drive!!!!

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Okay. I have a friend that's pretty good at this sort of thing, plus his father who used to own a shop for years and has all the tools to do it. Would I need to raise the car completely and take out the transmission entirely?

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transmission swap. :violin: yes, your automatic tranny will have to come out so that the 5 speed will go in.