My 1g Thread

Well, I am finally starting to make progress again on the 1gee. So I decided to make one thread instead of 20 different threads for every little thing I do to my car. Going to start 1 thread, start it with a little history of the car, and go from there.

Here is is when my friend and I picked it up May 5th 2006:

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My friend paid $250 for it. It was blowing white smoke, and my friend and I figured it just had a blown head gasket, as is typical with any CVCC car.

So first thing we did was pull the head. Turns out that it had been sitting long enough and wearing weirdly, and had a ring groove in the top of the cylinder wall.

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My friend let it sit for a couple months, and he decided he'd let me have it for $100. I then decided it was time to rip out the motor and get things going.

I took the engine block down to a machine shop, had them hot tank the motor. They also bored it out and made sure everything was good to go. They got me new pistons, and set them on the rods. I also bought a crank kit off of eBay.

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Well, as it turns out, the eBay crank kit is a fucking POS. Either it was never turned, or it was improperly turned. I checked the tolerances withe Plastigauge and it was all sorts of fucked up. Guess that's what I get for buying a $100 crank and bearing set from eBay.

Meanwhile, I had traveled to Canada and picked up an EL cylinder head to go on the EK1 block. I took it down to a machine shop, and had them put in all new seals, valve grind, etc, etc. Turns out that the head was from an '83, and my block was from my '81. So they're completely wrong. Won't work, HARRACK! But it sure did look pretty!

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So between buying a house, moving, trying to keep the 2gee running, and tons of other shit, the car sat for another bunch of months, sitting in the rain, getting no love. I called a bunch of wrecking yards just north of the border to try and find a cylinder head from an '81. No luck for me. :(

Until early last month. I finally decided FUCK IT, and that I needed to get this car in gear. I took the original EK1 cylinder head down to a machine shop. Well, wouldn't you fucking know, it turns out that it had a crack in it. Another setback.

So I went the NEXT day and pulled a head off of an engine that I knew this dood had sitting out in his yard. It was gross and nasty and wasn't sure it would work.

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Lots of parts were fucked pretty bad. Some of the rocker arms were fucked. The valves were toast. So they took parts from both heads, the best from each, reground the cam, and made this:

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So 3 cylinder heads later, and 2 cranks, I'm finally getting things together. I took my original crank down to the machine shop last week, they're going to mic, grind, and order bearings for me. I should be getting it back tomorrow.

I also spent all this weekend removing the interior and cleaning everything out. The rear seats are getting removed, thanks to a recent mouse debacle.

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So that's all for past history. Everything in the thread from this point will be pure progress! Watch out!

sexy :O that block is beautiful!

Tonight, I took the carpets down to the local car wash. I hung them up on the "floor mat" hangars (hey, carpets are like floor mats, right?). They got a good soaking with Simple Green and a good thorough scrubbing. I then blasted them with the hot, soapy water from the pressure washer. Then did a high-pressure rinse. You should have seen the mud that came rolling out. It was nasty as hell.

Well here's a sample of what the carpets looked like before:

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And here they are now! A little frayed around the edges, but they look spankin' good, and will get me by until I can afford a carpet kit.

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looking good!

nice work. i want to see it running tho.

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Originally Posted by MessyHonda

nice work. i want to see it running tho.

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It's coming soon. Crank will be home in the next couple days. Then rebuilding bottom end will commence. :) Then I'll have a whole engine!!

That car looks super-clean. Was it from up in WA? If so, I'm surprised that it looks like there's no rust at all.

Are remanufactured engines available for these cars? If so, why did you decide to DIY instead of getting a remanufactured?

Are you going to try to keep the car stock, or modify it?

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That car looks super-clean. Was it from up in WA? If so, I'm surprised that it looks like there's no rust at all.

Are remanufactured engines available for these cars? If so, why did you decide to DIY instead of getting a remanufactured?

Are you going to try to keep the car stock, or modify it?

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I get the feeling that the car is from California or Arizona or something. It's not a Cali car because it didn't have the emissions stuff. It's very sun-faded. The vinyl on the seats was kinda crispy, and the plastic was faded to almost white! But yeah, the complete lack of rust tells me that it's not from around here, though rust isn't a HUGE problem here like it is on the east coast. It doesn't rain as much in the PNW as people say. In fact, had this car come from eastern Washington, this is probably exactly how it would have looked.

There are some placed to get reman'd motors. I didn't wanna go that route, because quite honestly I don't trust other people's work completely. I would have taken the engine apart and checked the torque of the caps and the bearing clearances, and I figured it was just as easy to build it from the ground up. Plus, I've never done it before, and really wanted to learn how to do it.

The car will stay mostly stock. Motor will be stock with a Weber carb installed. I'm installing some 2nd gen seats, just because I found them and they were freakin' clean, like brand new. And I'll be deleting the back seat, and building storage compartments for tools, since this will be my new Honda parts hauler. :)

Self serve car wash pressure FTW!!

Are you puttung a 5 speed in it? I assume you are since I have a couple of your old AT parts that you would need!

I am not sure you can get an off the shelf motor already rebuilt for that car. Back in the day, I called Jasper and a few other places that had like 50 of every domestic motor already rebuilt and instock. ALL of those places said they could rebuild MY motor if I shipped it to them and it was like $2500. That was years ago. I would always just take an old motor (and another one for parts) to a local machine shop and have them assemble it. Takes a little longer, but well worth it. You guys will see how 2ndgenguy's engine bay will look and how reliable his car will be. He's doing it the right way and it will take a lot more time and a few more dollars, but it will freaking be tight!

Good to see pictures to remind us how nice it looks.

& a hatch can be amazingly useful for moving junk around in, in spite of its semi-stylish shape & high loading lip, -I've fitted a toploading washing machine in the back of mine -& shut the hatch !
Always worth keeping some oversize carpet remnants back there to unfurl & protect the interior trims, & collect loose dirt & debris.

Can't wait to see it running, though not as much as you no doubt

shes a minter. one shiny engine and its gunna be good when its going.

Yeah, I'm putting a 5-speed in it. Nathan (xvok) came over and helped me sort it out. I'm missing some of the bushings (discontinued, no aftermarket that I can find) for the shift rod. I'll find something that will work in their place. Some washers and rubber hose might work. I guess it will be some trial and error for sure.

I pulled the automatic pedal out. Damn thing is bolted on with like 15 bolts. Had to drop the steering column, which wasn't that big of a deal.

I only had like an hour and a half to work on my car this evening. So I got the autotragic pedals out, and called it a night.

Here are the manual pedals I pulled from a being-parted-out '81 LX.
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And here is my automatic pedal. The gas pedal stays in the car, which is nice.
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Oh yeah, and I got my crankshaft back from the shop! They cleanded it and micropolished it. $35 for the job, and they ordered me a set of "standard" bearings. I can't get the color-coded bearings, and they said these will work fine and are well within spec but the Honda color-coded bearings are just "tighter." I'm going to give it a shot, and see what the plastigauge tells me. He said it's either that, or grind the bearings down to 0.10mm undersize, and then you lose some of the factory hardening that he says is more important. I like what he told me, he seems to know his shit.

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So now I've got everything I need to build the motor. I'll start building it AGAIN next weekend when I've got two solid days off to concentrate on this thing and focus on getting it right.

You're totally missing out on the 2-speed hondamatic. There's nothing like going down a the interstate at 70 mph, the engine sounding like she's ready to blow, semi's flying by you like you're standing still, and thinking to yourself, "more rabbit, I need more rabbit."

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You're totally missing out on the 2-speed hondamatic. There's nothing like going down a the interstate at 70 mph, the engine sounding like she's ready to blow, semi's flying by you like you're standing still, and thinking to yourself, "more rabbit, I need more rabbit."

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How true is that! I think the 81's had a 3 speed AT, but maybe it was still only a 2 speed. In any case, cruising at 70MPH makes that car seems like it is maxed out.

John, did you get a 5 speed tranny yet? I know you said Josh's was kinda rough. Just wondering if you got a servicable 5 speed yet. Man, sounds like your machine shop tech. is on point. Keep us posted!

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How true is that! I think the 81's had a 3 speed AT, but maybe it was still only a 2 speed. In any case, cruising at 70MPH makes that car seems like it is maxed out.

John, did you get a 5 speed tranny yet? I know you said Josh's was kinda rough. Just wondering if you got a servicable 5 speed yet. Man, sounds like your machine shop tech. is on point. Keep us posted!

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No, I haven't found one yet. I'm broke for the month thanks to the new cylinder head and crank, and misc other things I've paid for. I don't want to go anywhere near the tranny that was out in his yard. :nervous: If it looked anything like that engine, it was pretty trashed. I saw the outside of the case, and it looked like they'd pried the halfshafts out with a forklift. The case was mangled around the output shafts pretty bad. If the inside looked anything like the inside of that cylinder head I pulled, it would have been useless.

I'm probably going to just search car-part.com and try and find one with like a 30-day warranty. Just long enough to make sure that it's good to go, and returnable if it's bad.

At least the gearbox doesn't look to be as year sensitive as the shift linkage & EK head, should make it easier to find one! You've got the difficult bits already

Removed the dash this weekend. There were mouse nests up inside of there. It smelled pretty bad too. Plus I decided that it would be a good time to replace the 26 year old heater core. I wouldn't want to do it any time other than now. It's amazing how much stuff you have to take apart just to get to the heater core. I wonder if the new ones are so bad. At least my Ford truck, it was only 3 bolts to pull and it was out!

Oh yes, and please notice the 5-speed shifter in there. That's right, auto stick is gone! I rebuilt that thing, all the new rubber I could get, new bushings, regreased everything, cleaned it up and reinstalled it!

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Here's the HVAC system. Lots of little shit to take apart. I hope I'm not missing anything when I get it all together! Yikes!

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awesome!

Man, your dash looks relly nice and new!

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Man, your dash looks relly nice and new!

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It's actually a bit sun-faded and dirty. Just wait until I get it cleaned up and shiny though!

Awesome thread :)

Your dash looks really good from what I can see. Good call on replacing that heater core right now as well. Man, you dig deep when you tackle a project. Really clean for a 26 year old car though.

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Originally Posted by offthahook

Your dash looks really good from what I can see. Good call on replacing that heater core right now as well. Man, you dig deep when you tackle a project. Really clean for a 26 year old car though.

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Yeah, I'm digging deep into this one. I hope I'm not going too far though. I'm gettin skurred now! :nervous: I gotta wait on a heater core, and hope that I can put the HVAC back together proper-like! :wave:

just reading back.....you definitely do not want to have the Honda cranks turned down as they are nitrided from the factory as a hardening process, they wear out real fast if its not re-hardened.

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just reading back.....you definitely do not want to have the Honda cranks turned down as they are nitrided from the factory as a hardening process, they wear out real fast if its not re-hardened.

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Right. My machinist said that they amount of turning they do isn't small enough to break through the hardened surface, since the nitriding penetrates into the metal. They said though, that it will definitely make it thinner and it is best to not turn it if at all possible.

So it's not like it will explode, but it will wear quicker. You may only get 100k out of it instead of 200k possibly? I dunno exactly, but it will still last you some time.

Just like the crank issue, make sure you really do your homework on the heater core. I mean make sure everything is what and where it should be. If your car has AC, I would think about the evap. core and the expansion valve as well. You know what's up though. These cars were tricky to get right in the day and they're REALLY tricky now. I have confidence in you!! :thumbsup:

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Just like the crank issue, make sure you really do your homework on the heater core. I mean make sure everything is what and where it should be. If your car has AC, I would think about the evap. core and the expansion valve as well. You know what's up though. These cars were tricky to get right in the day and they're REALLY tricky now. I have confidence in you!! :thumbsup:

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No A/C or PAS or anything like that. That's why I wanted to make this car my first project. I figured it would be the easiest, and not horribly overwhelming. Though the deeper I dig into this car, the deeper I find I have to go! At least I'm getting a good idea as to what all is involved in practically a full restoration!

Looks Great!

Yay to the Pre-1990 Accords, You've touched them all LOL

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No A/C or PAS or anything like that. That's why I wanted to make this car my first project. I figured it would be the easiest, and not horribly overwhelming. Though the deeper I dig into this car, the deeper I find I have to go! At least I'm getting a good idea as to what all is involved in practically a full restoration!

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At least you don't have rust! She's looking good!

hey john i know you have been sick and i dont want to win by defult. how about i come over tonight and install you crank for you you can sit in a chair with a blanket around your sholders. It would probaly be prety easy for me since i just did mine.

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hey john i know you have been sick and i dont want to win by defult. how about i come over tonight and install you crank for you you can sit in a chair with a blanket around your sholders. It would probaly be prety easy for me since i just did mine.

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Oooh you so funny! :lol: I'm not so sick now. It will be done this weekend.

u going to put some NOS on that? :D

No. But I am going to put Nitrous on my 2g.

oh ok dont screw anything up :cheers:

Here's some updates finally. I got some time this weekend, and decided to assemble the bottom end. I cleaned the crap out of everything, and did my mock assembly with the Plastigauge. All my tolerances were beautiful, finally feel like I'm making some progress.

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I also cleaned the living crap out of, and installed the oil pan. I cleaned out the inside so that there would be no nasty sludge or anything that could come off and contaminate my shiny new bearings. Dabbed some black RTV in the corners where the oil pan gasket would go and tightened everything up.

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The oil pan is nasty looking, but it's going to be getting fresh paint this week along with the block and the valve cover. The block, oil pan, and valve cover are all going to get painted body color and should look spiffalicious.

I also ordered my carb rebuild kit for $25 from Bus Boys (VW Bus shop). It was about the only place I could find one without going to AutoZone and asking for possibly the wrong one, since my Holley 5200 that I'm installing came off of a mail Jeep. I also ordered the carb adapter plate for $45 from Carbs Unlimited just north of me in Auburn.

So this weekend, if all goes well, my engine will be painted and ready to go, and I'll have my interior all re-installed. I picked up a new heater core so I shouldn't have to worry about leakage for a long-ass time. Then hopefully the next weekend, I'll be picking up a tranny and installing the tranny and engine combo! Maybe fire it up!

Looks great as usual :thumbup:

What did you use for prelube?

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What did you use for prelube?

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Some black stuff in a tube that said "Engine Assembly Lube" I don't remember the brand. I'll look it up when I get home.

Another update. Installed my new heater core into the heater box. My Helm factory service manual is SUPER vague about how it comes apart and goes together. It's also missing critical parts that you should hook up, and seems to have a diagram of a slightly different heater box. Maybe my heater box is a revision from mid-81, or they figured it was good enough. :lol:

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Also put in the correct pedals for the car. I got rid of that big ass pedal that went in place of the clutch and brake. I can't figure out what that was for or why anybody would want to use it. ;)

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wow this is what i get for working 6 tens a week i lost two con rod bolts and havent been able to go to tacoma screw and get them yet but my water and oil pumps came in so short block by the weekend then ive got to try and make some sense out of that head

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Some black stuff in a tube that said "Engine Assembly Lube" I don't remember the brand. I'll look it up when I get home.

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booty lube

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wow this is what i get for working 6 tens a week i lost two con rod bolts and havent been able to go to tacoma screw and get them yet but my water and oil pumps came in so short block by the weekend then ive got to try and make some sense out of that head

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You can get a DCOE manifold for that EL head, if you're really interested in doing the dual weber setup. Carbs Unlimited sells it. I just ordered my Weber downdraft adapter plate for the EK1 head. The adapter plate for that intake manifold was like $45.

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booty lube

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Oh yeah that's right. I think the brand started with KY or something like that. :rofl:

Man that looks good. How many cars have donated their parts for this project? I know it all looked grimy out in the woods, but you did right. I feel good for ya man. I know that sounded ghey, but you have tackled a pretty hard job and done it the right way. Where are you getting the 5 speed? Sorry if I asked you that already. Tight shit meng!

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Man that looks good. How many cars have donated their parts for this project? I know it all looked grimy out in the woods, but you did right. I feel good for ya man. I know that sounded ghey, but you have tackled a pretty hard job and done it the right way. Where are you getting the 5 speed? Sorry if I asked you that already. Tight shit meng!

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Thanks, G! I'm not really sure where I'm getting the tranny yet. It's going to be one of the last stages of this build, and I've got so much to think about I'm trying not to worry about that tranny just yet. NAPA is mixing me up some paint (to use with adhesion promotoer) for the center console and the rear fender plastic covers. I've got new bulbs coming for the dash, a Weber adapter plate, carb rebuild kit. Still much to think about, so I'm putting that off for a bit. :) I just hope when I'm all done, it will look as nice as your car!

Spent another 1 1/2 hours out in the garage tonight. I realized that I put the pedals in wrong because the pin that holds the brake pedal to the booster was set up the wrong way. I had to take the pedals off, and spin the bracket on the booster 180 degrees so I could put the pin in to hold them together. I also decided that for the clutch master cylinder, I should probably get that pin out so that I can actually attach the master cylinder plunger to the pedal arm. The damn pin was rusted in, so it took a hammer, vice grips and some WD40 to get the bastard out. Glad I did it while it was out of the car. Doing it up under the dash would have been a mega-bitch.

I also found more parts to the heater box tonight. I thought I had everything last night, but I kept finding more and more parts to bolt onto it. All these little brackets and covers and stuff. I'm gonna be pissed if I miss something and it rattles.

Aren't old Hondas fun?! For your tranny, I hope you find one still in the car that you can remove yourself. That way, it'll all be there and it'll get pulled the right way. I've been watching CL, but haven't seen anything worthwhile lately. You have had a lot to think about lately with that list of mods. That whip will look and run like new. Well, new from 26 years ago anyway. Maybe you could put Honda NAVI in there from a wrecked Accord...

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Aren't old Hondas fun?! For your tranny, I hope you find one still in the car that you can remove yourself. That way, it'll all be there and it'll get pulled the right way. I've been watching CL, but haven't seen anything worthwhile lately. You have had a lot to think about lately with that list of mods. That whip will look and run like new. Well, new from 26 years ago anyway. Maybe you could put Honda NAVI in there from a wrecked Accord...

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Oh man. Doing all this is half the fun of the job. I'm getting so close I can feel it. I'm so excited to get everything going in the next couple weeks! Yeah I looked for a tranny the other night on car-part.com. Nearest I found was Oregon! Damn, it wasn't but 6 months ago that there were about 15 nearby. What happened all of a sudden...

Oh man, you know I would LOVE to put a high-tech NAVI system in this old car. Keeping it OEM would just be that much cooler. Don't tempt me! ;)

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Got my carb rebuild kit, and carb adapter plate. Holley 5200 Carb itself was free! Total cost for carb conversion: $60. Hell yeah!

Man, that stuff looks good. Plus, you shopped around and did your homework. You saved money and your shit will not be all rigged up ghetto fab style. Teh win. Since you have your dash out, start cutting for the OEM NAVI. Your dual zone AC climate control will own!!!!! Touch screen FTW and the steering wheel controls/voice activated commands, homelink.... Git r done (or just do what you're doing now).

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Doing it up under the dash would have been a mega-bitch.

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oh it is. i put the seat all the way back and reclined, then sat in it upside-down. you cant see shit but it is at least reasonably comfortable. also make sure those short rubber connectors on the heater are fresh and pliable. one of mine burst on a hot day, so now its an orange silicone connector from the exhaust of an RC car, and the other is a bit of garden hose, both zip-tied on.

something will probably start leaking fluid or boiling water on your toe at some point and then you'll be so glad you read this.

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oh it is. i put the seat all the way back and reclined, then sat in it upside-down. you cant see shit but it is at least reasonably comfortable. also make sure those short rubber connectors on the heater are fresh and pliable. one of mine burst on a hot day, so now its an orange silicone connector from the exhaust of an RC car, and the other is a bit of garden hose, both zip-tied on.

something will probably start leaking fluid or boiling water on your toe at some point and then you'll be so glad you read this.

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Hehe, I got brand spankin new water lines for that and cut them down. Stuck on some nice new hose clamps. And since we're left hand drive, if anything happens, my passenger will be the one who gets it. :D

Goddamnit, I should have told the paint guy to keep trying to get it closer to the right color. I know that the color is off a LITTLE bit, but the camera makes the color look WAY off. So please keep that in mind. The color actually works great on the engine block with the clear on it, so I'm going to keep it that way, but the interior panels are going to need a closer-to-original color...


Sanded...
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Primered...
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Painted!
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yeah the engine looks pinkish

oh john u ricer!! lol. Paint looks good man

Sweet!

Looks real good man. On the plastic, what kind ofprimer did you use? I always use adhesion promoter, but I guess primer would work as well. Did you use adhesion promoter? What kind of plastic paint did you use and was it aeresol or paint gun? Very nice work and it it looks brand new!!

Looks Great!

We used a spray gun for the job. Laid down adhesion promoter on the plastic underneath the primer. Then the same primer went down on the bare block, and over the coated plastic. Then after the primer flashed, we went ahead and sprayed the basecoat on the plastic and on the engine. To keep the plastic from looking shiny, we just left the clearcoat off of the plastic, and just cleared the engine. The idea was to see how durable the paint would be on the plastic without the clear. Obviously not AS durable as with the clear, but it seems pretty strong already.

As I was saying though, it's a bummer the paint didn't come out quite the right color, so I'm going to scuff up that basecoat and get the right color laid down over top of that. I don't think that should be a huge issue. Only time will tell I guess. It's not too hard to take these panels out anyways. But the engine will stay funky purple / maroon I guess.

looks clean! great job!

Lookn' good. Expect the colour to darken from the heat of the motor too.

PS - I hope with all that $$ in the rebuild you spring on the $20 for a new water pump off Ebay!

Looking good. I want to paint my interior :(

The engine looks funny with one color lol

I've never cleared any of the plastics and I've had good luck. The key (I think) is let it cure for like EVER. If it were summer, I'd say set them out in the sun. This time of year, I would keep the interior stuff indoors for awhile. Obviously, you can't drop a plastic panel 10 feet and expect the paint not to chip. I'd say as long as you let it dry well, you'll be fine for what you'll be exposing the panels to.

I also noticed you painted the oil pan already assembled. Do you think there will be any problems? Personally, and I am not hating, I would have painted them separately and tried to get new oil pan bolts. In any case, you know I think you do shit right so just keep us updated!

EDIT-- I'm gay. I just noticed the damn thing was all assembled long block style. Of course you had to paint the oil pan on the block. I guess, ideally, I would have painted the bare block and oil pan separately. Then, tried REALLY carefully to install the internals. All good mang.

man this is some nice work1!!1one

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Lookn' good. Expect the colour to darken from the heat of the motor too.

PS - I hope with all that $$ in the rebuild you spring on the $20 for a new water pump off Ebay!

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Oh man, you bet. I got the new water pump from my machinist. He hooked me up with everything for the rebuild. Oil pump, water pump, all gaskets and shiznit. Even a new oil pressure sender! I masked and painted the water pump too. Wanted it too look shiny and nice as well.

I noticed that you are in Chiliwack! I go up there to visit family quite often. I'd love to come check out your car next time I'm in town. Hopefully, I'll be driving the 1g up there some time around Christmas. I can show you my not-quite-as-pimp ride. :)

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Originally Posted by offthahook

I also noticed you painted the oil pan already assembled. Do you think there will be any problems? Personally, and I am not hating, I would have painted them separately and tried to get new oil pan bolts. In any case, you know I think you do shit right so just keep us updated!

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No worries man! I don't see any problems really. I figure if I need to pull the oil pan again for some reason it can be done just by removing the bolts with maybe a lil bit bigger wrench or something. I can always buy new ones again. Not that I want to have to pull that oil pan anyways. The worst thing I can see happening, is I have to split the paint with a razor blade along the oil pan. No biggie, since I'd be replacing the gasket anyways. I guess we'll see down the road for sure.

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I've never cleared any of the plastics and I've had good luck. The key (I think) is let it cure for like EVER. If it were summer, I'd say set them out in the sun. This time of year, I would keep the interior stuff indoors for awhile. Obviously, you can't drop a plastic panel 10 feet and expect the paint not to chip. I'd say as long as you let it dry well, you'll be fine for what you'll be exposing the panels to.

I also noticed you painted the oil pan already assembled. Do you think there will be any problems? Personally, and I am not hating, I would have painted them separately and tried to get new oil pan bolts. In any case, you know I think you do shit right so just keep us updated!

EDIT-- I'm gay. I just noticed the damn thing was all assembled long block style. Of course you had to paint the oil pan on the block. I guess, ideally, I would have painted the bare block and oil pan separately. Then, tried REALLY carefully to install the internals. All good mang.

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You are gay:flash:

I hate the look of painted bolts and gaskets, so I painted my 22R block and pan seperate, and tried to avoid overspray on the rods and crank. I just painted downwards towards the pan rail, and feathered it out on the edges. A little overspray in the crankcase isn't gonna hurt fuck all anyways, you should see what the factories put in there. I just wanted to paint the pan rail of the oil pan to prevent the fucking gasket from rusting to it when I go to re re rebuild it in 2 months.

that looks cool, thats also a nice & shiney primer lol

Ya, in Sardis. Give me a heads up when you are coming up and you can swing by. Its off the road for now (hybernating) but I may be able to take it out for a quick rip if the engine is still in it.

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I noticed that you are in Chiliwack! I go up there to visit family quite often. I'd love to come check out your car next time I'm in town. Hopefully, I'll be driving the 1g up there some time around Christmas. I can show you my not-quite-as-pimp ride. :)

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Well, I got a bunch of stuff done on the car. Nothing really picture worthy as of now. Last night, I took apart both gauges for the manual and automatic. I swapped around what parts could be swapped that were in a little better shape. Some of the contacts were a bit corroded on my donor manual gauges.

Also started putting the dash back in. Dealing with the wiring mess. The car had a dealer-installed deck it looked like, with a clusterfuck of wiring coming out of it in a very untidy manner. I took the opportunity to remove that tape deck for future ease of installation of something else. May wind up being another tape deck with knobs, but something newer that doesn't have that huge mess of wires will be nice.

Also had some wierd issues with wiring for the blower motor / switch. None of the wires on the male ends match up with wires on the female ends. The wiring guides aren't terribly specific about what is what. And it tells you that some connectors are for "optional features." WTF. Plus, I have no dash lights.

It was pretty kick ass putting in the battery and turning on the key. First sign of life I've seen in that car in almost a year. Felt pretty good. Just gotta get the wiring buggers figured out, then put the carpets and seats in, and I can focus on the engine! Hopefully all this interior crap will be done this weekend.

:d :d

what is your budget? just curious....also got your clutch kit?

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Well, I got a bunch of stuff done on the car. Nothing really picture worthy as of now. Last night, I took apart both gauges for the manual and automatic. I swapped around what parts could be swapped that were in a little better shape. Some of the contacts were a bit corroded on my donor manual gauges.

Also started putting the dash back in. Dealing with the wiring mess. The car had a dealer-installed deck it looked like, with a clusterfuck of wiring coming out of it in a very untidy manner. I took the opportunity to remove that tape deck for future ease of installation of something else. May wind up being another tape deck with knobs, but something newer that doesn't have that huge mess of wires will be nice.

Also had some wierd issues with wiring for the blower motor / switch. None of the wires on the male ends match up with wires on the female ends. The wiring guides aren't terribly specific about what is what. And it tells you that some connectors are for "optional features." WTF. Plus, I have no dash lights.

It was pretty kick ass putting in the battery and turning on the key. First sign of life I've seen in that car in almost a year. Felt pretty good. Just gotta get the wiring buggers figured out, then put the carpets and seats in, and I can focus on the engine! Hopefully all this interior crap will be done this weekend.

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whell hey at least your not laying down in a pool of acid

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what is your budget? just curious....also got your clutch kit?

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Oh yeah I did get the clutch kit! Thanks man! I'll leave you some good feedback on that deal too!

My budget is pretty much just whatever I can afford to get fixed from month to month... :D

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whell hey at least your not laying down in a pool of acid

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This is true, that would be much worse. At least I'm not in a puddle of water pulling a transmission now either! ;)

Ack, between holidays, getting sick twice in 2 weeks, and spending all my time on other people's projects, I finally managed to get a little work done this weekend:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/000_0228.jpg

I spent a lot of time tapping out the threads in the block and a lot of time cleaning the head bolts and the threads out on those too. They were gunky and dirty and nasty.

I also put a price list together for my final parts, I'll be ordering them on the 1st, otherwise known as payday! :D

Timing Belt: $15.99
Tensioner: $29.99
Starter: $59.99
Alternator: $36.99
Distributor: $106.99
Dizzy Cap: $6.99
Plug Wires: $40.00
Plugs: $8.00
Flywheel: $59.99
Thermostat: $9.99

I'm pretty amazed how cheap all this stuff is! Can't afford not to buy all new stuff!

now thats sexy! thumbs up man!

That does look tight. Can't wait til you get it on the raod!

its beautiful! :D

:thumbup: nice! I'll be needing your full address now, so i can send my motor to the EK1 spa.

RADICOOL its like the nasa after-hours shop project

wait a dizzy costs 100 USA bux!? cant afford that either :P

man that realy lookin good i wished i could find a first gen in my area this realy make me want one even more

Thanks for the compliments! :D

I just spent some more time out in the garage today. Got all the wiring bugs worked out. Got the steering column back in. Installed all the rear panels and the front carpets. And my upholstery guy called me back and said that my new shift boot and e-brake boot are done! Picking that stuff up tomorrow! w00t!

The shaft fell out of the column since I had the steering wheel off of it, and all the parts went everywhere. While I was putting it back together, I found that the horn ground ring was all bent up and not sitting properly. I straightened it back out and now the horn works! Yay! I was all pissed off at first having to deal with that column, but since the horn works (and is loud as hell!) I'm pleasently pleased.

So there are only 2 things that don't work in the car now. The blower doesn't work on low, which I think means I'll need a new resistor pack, which means another switch. And the rear wiper doesn't seem to work, and I haven't looked into that at all yet. I'm going to leave that stuff be for now in the name of getting everything else done.

I must say after pressure washing the carpets, I didn't think that they looked all that much better, but DAMN they look like brand new in the car! I'll be posting pics in the next few days once I get the seats in. I'm stoked at how nice this is turning out.

sounds llike you got quite a bit done i cant wait to see the pics

damn that engine is clean as fuck looking good man

Cars Looking AWESOME!

Can't Wait till it's done :D

Of course it looks good. John Turk Bult It:)

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Of course it looks good. John Turk Bult It:)

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True say!

this car is mega gay john

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this car is mega gay john

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Haha I know. Accords are so gay, I don't even know why I bothered... :flip:

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Haha I know. Accords are so gay, I don't even know why I bothered... :flip:

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Werd. An old Escort or Cavalier FTW. Maybe a Neon, too... :cheers:

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Werd. An old Escort or Cavalier FTW. Maybe a Neon, too... :cheers:

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Haha! Yeah, nothing quite like an '84 Tempo. The side by side rival to the Accord.

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Haha! Yeah, nothing quite like an '84 Tempo. The side by side rival to the Accord.

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Uh Yeah......:wtf:

Hurry up and fix the car allready. Just cause ur garage has water in it doesnt mean u dont have all this spare time to put the motor in

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Haha! Yeah, nothing quite like an '84 Tempo. The side by side rival to the Accord.

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hella yeah!
i had a 82 accord and a 82 caviler il tell ya what there ant nothing like a caviler pushing a car up the hill cuz it don't have enuf power FTW!?

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yeah the horn is loud isnt it. 2 buzzers were probably overkill so remove one and improve your 60 foot times

60 foot times OH YEAH
come to that IMPERIAL UNITS OOHHH YEAH

my other car is basically better in every way than my hatch and also worth less

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yeah the horn is loud isnt it. 2 buzzers were probably overkill so remove one and improve your 60 foot times

60 foot times OH YEAH
come to that IMPERIAL UNITS OOHHH YEAH

my other car is basically better in every way than my hatch and also worth less

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lol ya its loud not wizzzzzzzzzzzzz wizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

New Update! Interior is finished! Well, the front interior is. Not going to worry about the back until I'm all done getting the car running.

I put the red 2gee seats in, but I don't know if I'm going to be totally happy with them. They're a bit taller, so you sit up high in the seat. It doesn't feel like my '84 Accord does like you're sitting down low, but it feels EXACTLY like the seating position in the '95 Civic. Kinda higher up, and the wheel is a bit closer to your legs. Not uncomfortable, just different, so it will work for now. Probably will have to find another set of stock front seats to get reupholstered and put back in. These ones are nice, and they were cheap, and worn out seats simply won't do. The seats themselves are REALLY comfortable though.

I also got my brand new shift boot and e-brake boots. Black vinyl with red stitching to match the interior. They look totally original, the guy told me how he really wanted to make it look like the real deal, and he did a great job!

Installed the 5 speed cluster and tested out all the bulbs, they're all in good working order, which is nice. And put in the LX clock. Oh man, the LX 1g clock is the coolest clock out of any car I have ever seen. It's got the cool numbers that flip around every minute, and the dots between the digits have a subtle strobe every second. So wicked! Old school meets high tech.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01293.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01287.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01288.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01289.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...g/DSC01292.jpg
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Cool! Did you forget the chrome trim around the clock?

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Cool! Did you forget the chrome trim around the clock?

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Nice call. There is actually a chrome (they usually peel) rectangle trim piece. Dude, clean the vents and you will have one tight interior. Damn, that looks good. The seat color does look to match a little better than I thought they would. I figured it would be wine color (1G) and maroon (2G), but it looks close. I don't like the black steering wheel, but I know you do. That 81 Accord looks so awesome, even moreso considering how you got it and saved it from the crusher. Good work John. :cheers:

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Nice call. There is actually a chrome (they usually peel) rectangle trim piece. Dude, clean the vents and you will have one tight interior. Damn, that looks good. The seat color does look to match a little better than I thought they would. I figured it would be wine color (1G) and maroon (2G), but it looks close. I don't like the black steering wheel, but I know you do. That 81 Accord looks so awesome, even moreso considering how you got it and saved it from the crusher. Good work John. :cheers:

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Thanks! :wave:

Oh yeah I didn't even notice the chrome was missing. Ha the piece is sitting right here on my desk. Gotta go take care of that for sure.

Yeah the vents are dirty, I haven't cleaned the dash yet. It will get cleaned after the car is running I think. It will get one final interior detail after it's all said and done. I turned on the blower and all sorts of stuff came out. Which is weird since I blew out all the vents when the dash was apart.

I don't mind the black wheel, since it's what came in the car. But I kinda like the idea of going LX-style in this car. Like what you're doing with your 2g hatch. I really love how the cloth door panels look too, but again, that is down the road. My goal for this week is to get everything I need finished up to get it driving. Then I'll move onto the detail work. Of course, I'll need to fix those purple panels. They're bugging the crap out of me. But I still think they look better than the sun-faded ones.

More updates soon!

that looks very good man!
and the seats look awesome
and the black steering wheel adds a touch of the newer look so thats awesome too

are the 2gee seats from a hatch or sedan? lol cuz i know the ones in my 82 did not look that comfy lol

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that looks very good man!
and the seats look awesome
and the black steering wheel adds a touch of the newer look so thats awesome too

are the 2gee seats from a hatch or sedan? lol cuz i know the ones in my 82 did not look that comfy lol

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They're from the later 2gee. The 84-85.