Custom Strut Braces for the Rear..

So Ive and Tdurr was up to something lately, He did 4G towerbat mood, and gave me drawings and specks to do replicas of hes braces.

Here are members that had signed up
1) 2drSE-i
2) Rendon LX-i
3) LX-incredible
4) turabaka
5) ired44
5) GTRSkyline43
7) markmdz89hatch
8) Pico
9) itzdave
10) MessyHonda
11) ghettogeddy
12) Strugglebucket
13) H2289Acc
14) lostforawhile
15) SILENT


In the making
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde000.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde001.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde002.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde003.jpg
and a finished product
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde004.jpg
All TIG welded
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde007.jpg

Anyhow, the idea is to make those, so you can use rear tower bar you desire.
I still working on some clearances issues, but I'm getting ther..

Lat me know who want one, so I know how many is needed. And give me a price youll like to spend on it, keep in mind, those are not that easy to make, and time consuming. The first one took me 2 hours.

it really depends on what your gonna sell them for, honestly. I cant really name a price id wanna spend, cuz it would be hella low lol.

yea, I dont going to ask like 100 bucks for it
more like 20 for a set..

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo

yea, I dont going to ask like 100 bucks for it
more like 20 for a set..

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id be down for some at that price.

Cool.. Now I need to know how many would be interested in those.
But it will be limited edition.

i would love one. It wouldnt clean amps in back. well idk? will it work

Nice work! I'd be down for a set or two.

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Originally Posted by Rendon LX-i

i would love one. It wouldnt clean amps in back. well idk? will it work

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This is still to see, I think I'll ship one to Turr and ask hem to see if it fits ;) But I'm sure it will.
Like I said, I stil need to work out some issues

That looks cool! Those willl definately be sold at a affordable price

well im in...ill get a set.

I'd be down for a set of those too.

I would like a set of those...by the way good work

im down for it... is it just a brace it self or the whole strut assem?

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Originally Posted by GTRSkyline43

im down for it... is it just a brace it self or the whole strut assem?

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it just a brace, You color it your self in color you want and buy a strut from 90-97 accord and place it in.

I'll take a set too. ...you might need to raise the height of the brace in order to clear the plastics so that the bar will attach through the access panel instead of needing to cut the plastic. Sick welding skills Tom.

Damn son! u work fast!
lol glad to be a help to you man, but you can use any strut bar off ebay that has the little bolt/allen key thing on the adjustable end.... one sec let me show u a pic..
Ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-...ht_2901wt_1071

pic: http://racingguys.onlinera.com/9093AccordRUBar.jpg
just something like that, cheap ebay stuff.

and to clear the plastic and stuff someone else would have to test fit it, cuz my trunk is gutted.
to answer the question bout the amp, it depends on the bar and the amp+ mounting location. I had to move my amp from the back of my seat because it wouldnt let the seat close all the way.

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Originally Posted by markmdz89hatch

I'll take a set too. ...you might need to raise the height of the brace in order to clear the plastics so that the bar will attach through the access panel instead of needing to cut the plastic. Sick welding skills Tom.

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Thank you Mark, but still learning, not as good as I want it to bee, not good gor Turbo Manifolds yet.. (hint hint)
You mean like this?
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...eez/Braces.jpg

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo

Thank you Mark, but still learning, not as good as I want it to bee, not good gor Turbo Manifolds yet.. (hint hint)
You mean like this?

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damn you and your 3D wizardry.

...I'm thinking even a little higher (don't remember just how high the plastic comes up) ...I'll get a pic up very soon

hey, try not to make it extend too far out wile u raise it, other wise some bars might not fit. but if it has adjustable end then you should have a good 2 in of play room.

I'm in..
Can you design the bracket/mount for the front strut bar also

^^ if someone with a DC front bar would like to help the yes, he could.
But im currently going to try and make/design one using a 4g front bar.

I really need a rear bar and $20 for custom brackets is very reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Pico

I'm in..
Can you design the bracket/mount for the front strut bar also

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Yes, I working on it :D

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Originally Posted by Strugglebucket

I really need a rear bar and $20 for custom brackets is very reasonable.

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Thank you, I think that too...


and Tim, hurry, I dont have time as the shop I'm in, I gona be for like 3-4 weeks.

seriously, i want one... i dont care about the price, i need one!!! pm me when ya know how much ur sellin them for!

good idea but sway bars are a better investment....but why now il be down for a set or 2

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Originally Posted by MessyHonda

good idea but sway bars are a better investment....but why now il be down for a set or 2

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I know Messy, but those you talking about are out of reach now.. I work on some ideas so, sometime soon I'll give it a shot ;)

I tried calling him again and no answer, so i sent a pm. :)

nice work.

Custom Strut Braces for the Rear
http://rcw.ms/forums/picture.php?alb...pictureid=4038

Ok guys, a little feed back.
I ordered material, so I'll start make those next week, so feel free to join.

I run this one time only for now, as the work shop I'm working in I will be for next 3 weeks.. So gather up.
Im redesigning those braces so you dont have to cut in to trunk upholstery, they will be a bit higher that is now.

Nice work! :) It's fun to make stuff when you have the proper tools.

how much for the laser cut or plasma cut half round pieces? i might make something custom. but i need the pieces that go on the struts. also will they fit the front mounting holes ?

if the front are being in the making would it be sold as a set?

in in for a rear set and def a front set when you get those going

i got a list going on who wants these
Tomisimo edit this into the top of your post and if mark can change the thread title we can get this lil group buy on the way

1) 2drSE-i
2) Rendon LX-i
3) LX-incredible
4) turabaka
5) ired44
5) GTRSkyline43
7) markmdz89hatch
8) Pico
9) itzdave
10) MessyHonda
11) ghettogeddy
12)

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Originally Posted by lostforawhile

how much for the laser cut or plasma cut half round pieces? i might make something custom. but i need the pieces that go on the struts. also will they fit the front mounting holes ?

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Yes I can ship one set with just foot plates, can you drill holes yourself?
Those are plasma cut so they might seem a bit different, but all goes in 0.4mm tolerance.

to ghettogeddy: Thanks it was a good Idea

Yes thegreatdane If only I had that shop for my self,, Man do I build some crazy stuff.. have so much ideas...


to Skyline:

Yes if they will be made, they will be but in time.. I dynno I can manage all in 3 weeks, as I need to work at the same time..

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo

Yes I can ship one set with just foot plates, can you drill holes yourself?
Those are plasma cut so they might seem a bit different, but all goes in 0.4mm tolerance.

to ghettogeddy: Thanks it was a good Idea

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of course, i like solid bars so the idea is to bolt them down, then make the bar,and mark it's exact location so it can be taken out and welded. the points where the bolts go through is the weakest point on a bar. talking about from the bar to the plate. if you get rid of the bolts and make it saolid you can see a dramatic increase in stiffness. the other option in using a removeable bar,is to use AN aircraft bolts, to hold two pieces together, they have a very precise non threaded section,you can drill the holes the exact size and the bolts will have almost zero play. when the threads go through a hole, there is a lot of play and the threads actually wear down and change the dimensions of the hole.

Well on the front bars, mushroom toy will be letting me get a hold of the front mounting tabs from his DC bar soon!!! the only problem is the distance between us, and the fact i have no money really(gotta rebuild my head :( ) so if anyone wants to chip in like 5 bucks to get them shipped to me so i can get the dimensions and stuff i would love u forever!

if i get my check monday i def will chip 5 bucks

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Originally Posted by ghettogeddy

i got a list going on who wants these
Tomisimo edit this into the top of your post and if mark can change the thread title we can get this lil group buy on the way

1) 2drSE-i
2) Rendon LX-i
3) LX-incredible
4) turabaka
5) ired44
5) GTRSkyline43
7) markmdz89hatch
8) Pico
9) itzdave
10) MessyHonda
11) ghettogeddy
12)

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You left me out:crying:

hey deffinatley count me in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am currently looking for another dc front bar so if i get one i will have matching bars. yeeeaaaah

so can i also get a set of the laser cut thingy with the bracket thing for the fronts too? im carbed so i cant use a regular strut bar, so im gunna try to fab up some crazy shit...
also, got an idea on the price?

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Originally Posted by itzdave

so can i also get a set of the laser cut thingy with the bracket thing for the fronts too? im carbed so i cant use a regular strut bar, so im gunna try to fab up some crazy shit...
also, got an idea on the price?

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looks like about $20 right now

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Originally Posted by lostforawhile

of course, i like solid bars so the idea is to bolt them down, then make the bar,and mark it's exact location so it can be taken out and welded. the points where the bolts go through is the weakest point on a bar. talking about from the bar to the plate. if you get rid of the bolts and make it saolid you can see a dramatic increase in stiffness. the other option in using a removeable bar,is to use AN aircraft bolts, to hold two pieces together, they have a very precise non threaded section,you can drill the holes the exact size and the bolts will have almost zero play. when the threads go through a hole, there is a lot of play and the threads actually wear down and change the dimensions of the hole.

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The bolt size is 10mm I use bore bit 10.5mm for a hole so technically speaking its only 0.2mm of play on each side, you never notice that 0.2mm really, but ok, I mark it for you so you get what you want ;)

to Strugglebucket sorry bro, didnt meant to ;)

and yes, the front is in the making, but it is more complex, so If I do one the price will be a bit bigger. Its really time consuming work, the cuting bit is really simple, but there is where the ball stop rolling, those markings need to be exacly the same and drilling part is not simple, but I'll work some perfect one for reference.
I will be posting every update..

heres my dream machine!! lol

http://www.torchmate.com/Videos/video3.html

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Originally Posted by ghettogeddy

looks like about $20 right now

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sorry, i meant an idea for the price of the rear bar...

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Originally Posted by itzdave

sorry, i meant an idea for the price of the rear bar...

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that's what Geddy meant too. $20 for the rear bar. The front bar is still undecided.

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Originally Posted by turabaka

that's what Geddy meant too. $20 for the rear bar. The front bar is still undecided.

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OH SHIT!!! thats badass!!!

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Originally Posted by turabaka

that's what Geddy meant too. $20 for the rear bar. The front bar is still undecided.

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well just the mounts not the bar you have to pic a bar up off ebay
but they can be had on there for next to nothing

^^ i had some listings saved of a guy selling them for 18 shipped but ebay deleted them :(

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Originally Posted by Tdurr

^^ i had some listings saved of a guy selling them for 18 shipped but ebay deleted them :(

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check the first page of this thread theirs a link for a 20 buck one

I think i posted it :)

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Originally Posted by Tdurr

I think i posted it :)

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hahahaha ya but its still there lol

lol i know, just felt like being a ass and pointing it out! :)

Hmm I tried to edit ppl in to the list, up there but all I get is an error.. ehh well try it later.
Yes there some future goodies I\m working on. I see some one here is really interested in front strut bars?
Well than maybe I'll post this here then, still in the making but the idea is here..

and Carbed guys are not forgatten :)

BAD ASS I SHOULD SAY...as for the bar part it was off a 90 - 97accord right or am i wrong?

WOW..your the man when it comes to designing stuff man.

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Originally Posted by GTRSkyline43

BAD ASS I SHOULD SAY...as for the bar part it was off a 90 - 97accord right or am i wrong?

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yes, 90-93 or CB7 actually, but it must be tested if 94-97 will fit a well.

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Originally Posted by Rendon LX-i

WOW..your the man when it comes to designing stuff man.

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Thanks.. You have no Idea what I have in store, just need some good tools and to set up my own little work shop ;)
I determined to get more 3Gee ppl in the game :cool:

HEll yes. to bad i have a dc strut bar. but you should look into some other stuff bro. Lower a arm on the rears.

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Originally Posted by Rendon LX-i

HEll yes. to bad i have a dc strut bar. but you should look into some other stuff bro. Lower a arm on the rears.

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Yeah but there are many members that dont have those and this will be the next best

Did some scathing on rear tower bar as well

Thinking in Lower Engine bar and front cross member as well. Rear too.

edit: I erazet photos for a simple reason..

that would clean amps no prob. sounds good.

damn son. shit is nice. U really do have big plans!

that 3pt bar looks like sex. Please test make one lol. ill buy it....
btw, im still working on getting that end from mushroom toy. Maybe u can get rendon to give u measurements!

oh man Im sor sorry. I forgot to get you those measurements. i read the thread and everything. is there anything I can help with. Sorry once again.

If anyone has a DC front strut bar can u post up a few pics of it up close off the car so he can find out what measurements he needs.

ill meaure it up. from what point to point. Let me know ill take some pics also. SO what do you want me to measure lol

i dotn see where you would bolt a 3 point at the rear seems pointless seeing most of us have fold down seats

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Originally Posted by ghettogeddy

i dotn see where you would bolt a 3 point at the rear seems pointless seeing most of us have fold down seats

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youre right, I thought about it as well, the third point can be mounted under, where 6'9 speakers mounts, the point of it was to get space for SUB box as its almost a must in nearly everycar nowadays.. and to bend it without mounting it is a flexible towerbar, as it need to have a tension to have any effect.

Tdurr youre right about me having big plans, I dont want to get ahead of my self right now, because I need to setle down abit, as I mentioned that the workshop I can use now, I'll be in for about 3 weeks from this manday. So complete towerbars will be not now, not yet. But I want to make it happen for us.

It be really good to have those measurements of DC bar, and better yet a trace of it, and a scan 1:1 and a reference scale on a side.
I can post an example of what measurements I'll be needing tomorrow..

Thanks everyone, You get me motivated :cool:

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo

youre right, I thought about it as well, the third point can be mounted under, where 6'9 speakers mounts, the point of it was to get space for SUB box as its almost a must in nearly everycar nowadays.. and to bend it without mounting it is a flexible towerbar, as it need to have a tension to have any effect.


Thanks everyone, You get me motivated :cool:

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well its a loss to about 3 inches but a gain of a rear strut bar lol i think people can wing it lol and if there worried about the amp rubbing just but a piece of bar with a bar clamp on it and a flat metal piece that can be drilled into the box to keep the box still its kinda hard to describe what im talking about but my dad does boat canvas and such and they use them in the construction of the large back sections of yachts

I cant wait to see the final part with the bar installed.

I'm down for a set of fronts and rears.

Some get some measurements of the front bar!! lol we need to keep this ball rolling!

i'm interested in front mounting plates.my front bar would have to be completly custom of course

Count Me in for 2 sets of front and rears!!!

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Originally Posted by Tdurr

^^ i had some listings saved of a guy selling them for 18 shipped but ebay deleted them :(

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just remember those crap ebay ones are mostly useless... u can bend them in half by hand lol but theres plenty 4g bars out there that are good/semi good

this is good work, if someone wants to try the 5th gen bars aswell on these mounts you can order one up and when your done send it to me :D LOL

^^ i have one on my rx7 and it deff is strong. I dono what crappy e-bay brand you used lol. My friends have them all on their cars too, no problem at all.

btw, mushroom toy said he will get the measurements if they are needed, so just pm him what you need.

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Originally Posted by labeledsk8r

just remember those crap ebay ones are mostly useless... u can bend them in half by hand lol but theres plenty 4g bars out there that are good/semi good

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X2!!
stick with like DC, megen, and neuspeed etc .. ebay bars dont really help its just all in peoples head because they added something to there car so they think it made a diffrence just like people that put a short ram intake on and then they think it made there car faster even though it didnt .

if your going for looks then yes get a ebay bar but if you want something that actully helps get a real one

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo

youre right, I thought about it as well, the third point can be mounted under, where 6'9 speakers mounts, the point of it was to get space for SUB box as its almost a must in nearly everycar nowadays.. and to bend it without mounting it is a flexible towerbar, as it need to have a tension to have any effect.

Tdurr youre right about me having big plans, I dont want to get ahead of my self right now, because I need to setle down abit, as I mentioned that the workshop I can use now, I'll be in for about 3 weeks from this manday. So complete towerbars will be not now, not yet. But I want to make it happen for us.

It be really good to have those measurements of DC bar, and better yet a trace of it, and a scan 1:1 and a reference scale on a side.
I can post an example of what measurements I'll be needing tomorrow..

Thanks everyone, You get me motivated :cool:

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i have a spare set of front dc mounts. i can send them to you so you have the real thing in front of you!!!! let me know. i am down to help ware ever i can.

i would like to have a bar that would clear the b16 mani

wont a b16 will?...shit i hope so

nope..if you have a b16 mani the dc bar hits it

well FUCK. aint that a bitch

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Originally Posted by 3gmodifier

i have a spare set of front dc mounts. i can send them to you so you have the real thing in front of you!!!! let me know. i am down to help ware ever i can.

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to, tomisimo!!!!

so when am i supposed to pay and get this shit sent to me? i cant WAIT!!! i need front and rears!

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Originally Posted by Civic Accord Honda

X2!!
stick with like DC, megen, and neuspeed etc .. ebay bars dont really help its just all in peoples head because they added something to there car so they think it made a diffrence just like people that put a short ram intake on and then they think it made there car faster even though it didnt .

if your going for looks then yes get a ebay bar but if you want something that actully helps get a real one

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Isn't evolution wonderful. Now we just need to work on its spelling and grammar.

My custom strut braces for the rear..
http://rcw.ms/forums/picture.php?alb...pictureid=3882
http://rcw.ms/forums/picture.php?alb...pictureid=3190

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Originally Posted by 3gmodifier

i have a spare set of front dc mounts. i can send them to you so you have the real thing in front of you!!!! let me know. i am down to help ware ever i can.

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Ok, well there is no time :( to send those as I'm quiting here in short time, but if You get me drawings of it and a trace. It would be fastest. Shipping take 2 weeks, by that time I'm gone from here.
If you can, take a A4 paper and trace foot plate on it, and then scan it on the computer and PM it to me, as well as hole diameter sizes and length of fastening plates, and hight. Here is mostly what I need, but the trace is important, as Plasma cutter is optical, it can trace the line.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...ez/DCmount.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/dc_bar02.jpg

Messy tell me how much more room you need to clear B16 Intake= maybe I can make fastening plates a bit higher so it will clear.

Dave, dont get to exited here bro :D I'm working on it now, I just got materials yesterday and soon I'll mas produce those, just hold on to that money for now.

ok guys I need to run and do some stuff today, I will keep you all posted and updated.

Me to cause i want a b16 mani and if i cant use my bar IDK lol

sweet! get him the info asap!!! in cm's not inches btw!

cant wait

il try to check

I'm down for one, front strut bar.

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Originally Posted by Tomisimo

Ok, well there is no time :( to send those as I'm quiting here in short time, but if You get me drawings of it and a trace. It would be fastest. Shipping take 2 weeks, by that time I'm gone from here.
If you can, take a A4 paper and trace foot plate on it, and then scan it on the computer and PM it to me, as well as hole diameter sizes and length of fastening plates, and hight. Here is mostly what I need, but the trace is important, as Plasma cutter is optical, it can trace the line.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...ez/DCmount.jpg
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/dc_bar02.jpg

Messy tell me how much more room you need to clear B16 Intake= maybe I can make fastening plates a bit higher so it will clear.

Dave, dont get to exited here bro :D I'm working on it now, I just got materials yesterday and soon I'll mas produce those, just hold on to that money for now.

ok guys I need to run and do some stuff today, I will keep you all posted and updated.

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Me to bro..im getting a b16 mani here soon. would be sweet to rise up the mounts so we could use are dc bar still:confused:

rendon, get him the measurements! he can raise the mounts a few cm's to clear a mani! lol just gotta get him the info asap!

Well what does he need measurements from...from what point to what point shit like that. details lol

Well Victor x manifold clears with no probs thats nice but 340 some..ummm idk...but i guess its worth it...

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Originally Posted by Rendon LX-i

Well what does he need measurements from...from what point to what point shit like that. details lol

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the pic u quoted, it has everything he needs lol, just get measurements in cm, and to the nearest hundredth if u have good tools.

ok ppl, Today I've started to fabricate mounts, first and hardest thing is done, the pain staking drawing progress takes tall on me, bu anyway. as I promised to keep you all updated here som picks for ya :D
Here drawing, there is endless line
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...Bilde003-1.jpg
and fork mounts, raised 6cm.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...Bilde001-1.jpg
here some cutting start
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde006.jpg
in the middle
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde009.jpg
and finish
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde012.jpg
and one sample I took for pick, it needs to be cut and grindet, but that I will be doing tomorrow :D
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...z/Bilde008.jpg

I also made Video, I see if I get it uploaded, because its like 92Mb big, so, we'll see :D

that's some VERY cool shit right there. ...now get going on welding everything up Tom. VERY cool.

oh, and that's one BAD ASS machine right there. Do they have a punch available to you at that school?