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$50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
no joke kids. for half a weekend and 50 bucks you could have a banging paint job.
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...0&fpart=1&vc=1
and the corolla in this one is beautiful
http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=133867
read allthe info very carefully. theres lots of good info...time to dry, consistancy...durrability, painting on unprimered metal or prime'd
yuou just gotta take the time to read it all. butreading the threads will take more time then actually painting the pics. i would first suggest skimming the threads just too look atthe pics. the first link has dozens of pages but if you go page by page skimming youll read a lot and see a lot of hot work.
check it out :)
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
I'm lazy give us a summary.
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ok.
this was done with a bucket of duplicolor paint, thinned with mineral spirits to the consistancy of watter and rolled on with a foam roller.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC02769.jpg
tools, paint and everything....costs about 50 bucks. it takes about half a weekend. dries fast (takes a month or so to FULLY cure as does EVERY paint job..pro or not.) buffable within the first few days for a brilliant shine. and if primered and prepped right is very durrable.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
Do they then shoot with a coat of clear?....I started reading it, and it's pretty damn tempting to try it on a fender or hood first. Only problem is what colors are available?
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
well. you dont shoot anything. you just roll on the walmart dulpicolor paint and buff it for the shine.
you can bring paint samples or pictures into walmart and they can scan them and color match them. anything is available.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
I never knew that that was possible! You just need a little skill and a bit of time and you cant paint your car for dirt cheap.
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here's how i painted my car for about $50, it's actually very easy and the results are amazing. First off, get a can of tremclad real orange (or what ever color u want) in the can, not spray, yes tremclad, it is a acrylic/enamel paint which is very durable. next prep your car as if was any other paint job, fix all the rust, ect....no need to prime the car since the tremclad allready contains elements which allow it to be painted over bare metal. next, after prepping the car get a small 4" professional FOAM rollers, it's tiny and has one end rounded off, and the other cut straight, and is a very high density foam. u also need a jug of mineral spirits to thin the paint. The thing i really like about this is that there's no mess, no tapeing the whole car, just key areas, and u can do it in your garage, since your not spraying there is virtually no dust in the air, just clean your garage first, also it does'nt really smell at all, dries overnight and it super tough paint. also it you decide to paint the car professionally later, just prep and paint, there's no need to strip the tremclad. i have done this to a few cars, and i can say it works amazing, u just have to be paitient. next u thin the paint with mineral spirits so it just about as thin as water, a little thicker. get out the roller and paint away, don't get the paint shaked when u buy it, enamel is stirred, otherwise you'll have bubbles in the paint for a week!!! after u do 2 coats, wet sand the whole car, then repeat, 2 coats, wetsand, 2 coats wetsand. i painted the charger using a can since your not spraying the car u use all the paint and not spray 50% in the air, use progressivly finer sand paper each time. it's not really that much work, cause u can stop and start any time, u can do just a door, or the hood, ect. do one panel at a time, and don't stop once you start. once your done the final coat, wetsand with about 1000 grit to a totally smooth finish, and then using a high speed polisher i use a buffing bonnet and turtle wax polishing compound. do the whole car with this, and i'm telling u, depending on the amount of time and paitence you have, the results are amazing. laugh if you want, but for $50 ($30 for paint, about $20 for rollers, sand paper, ect...) it really looks good. also you can do these steps overnight, paint one evening and by morning u can wet sand. i have personally done alot of painting, mostly single stage acrylic enamel, and i've sprayed several cars in my garage with really good professional results, just it stinks, it's a real pain to do, easy to make a mistake, messy, and expensive. The tremclad is awesome paint, the "real orange" is an amazing hemi orange, and almost looks like it has some perl in the sun, awesome color right out of the can. I used this technique on my 1974 beetle also, here are the results:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1.../Picture10.jpg
the car before:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/IM000475.jpg
another after pic:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC00164.jpg
here is a car i sprayed (71 beetle, midnight blue metalic):
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC00194.jpg
here is the car before (71 beetle):
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/Picture1.jpg
here's a few pics of the charger done:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC02764.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...n/DSC02769.jpg
well that's my 2 cents worth, sorry for the long post. i was borred lol
i painted the orange beetle in 1999, and it still looks like the day i painted it, the 71 blue beetle i painted in 2000, and built the car for my dad, i used the same paint on my charger, maybe one day i'll spring for a good paint job, prepping is 90% of the work, stripping the car, sanding, ect.....painting is overrated!!!
So if you have TIME, then i'd say go for it, the worst that could happen is that it does'nt turn out and your out $50, but if your paitient, and expriement with lets say just the trunk pannel and if you like it do the whole car, if not just get it done by someone else for $4000. i don't know about you guys, but i would rather spend the $4000 on other parts like getting the mechanics sorted out and new chrome, cause when u have really nice paint and crappy bumpers, door handles it just sticks out more.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
Double post.
Anyhow, not bad for roller brush & hella wetsanding.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
Holy Frickin Shit! I'm so trying this on my car when I'm done with the body work. I didn't even know you could do this.
Does the paint match all over? Like, if I tried it on a fender first and got awesome results, then finished the whole car a couple days later...Would it all match?
After the paint is mixed, how long does it stay good for in the can? What colors are their and a full list of "tools" would be great.
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i dunno. looks like it will match. im doing my kit liek this. looks like it should come out half decent. im not waiting a year to mount my kit.
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this is coming from an experianced painter , i f'in hate rattle can jobs i mean ive seen some decent work liek one guy did a duplicolor candy apple red mustang ( fox body ) i mean hell for my hatchie i used duplicolor only to do patch work which im pissed b/c its a bit darker and i didnt blend the gas tank cover either but its hard to belive that one is done with a roller brush i cant see how it can be a great job i mean thats allmost liek painting with the old laquer i guess that stuff u can paint it on the beach and it will look good , the newer urathane stuff is alot harder to work with compared to laquer
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Edit- I was going to say, I've done some painting in my day. I've seen some roller brush jobs, but anything is possible with patience & lots of elbow grease.
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Originally Posted by 3G Jester
no joke kids. for half a weekend and 50 bucks you could have a banging paint job.
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...0&fpart=1&vc=1
and the corolla in this one is beautiful
http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=133867
read allthe info very carefully. theres lots of good info...time to dry, consistancy...durrability, painting on unprimered metal or prime'd
yuou just gotta take the time to read it all. butreading the threads will take more time then actually painting the pics. i would first suggest skimming the threads just too look atthe pics. the first link has dozens of pages but if you go page by page skimming youll read a lot and see a lot of hot work.
check it out :)
great find maybe ill take my gas tank door in and have walmart paint match so i can do my moldings and wing maybe even my vent shades
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too bad u can't do metallics with it :(
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Originally Posted by 3G Jester
well. you dont shoot anything. you just roll on the walmart dulpicolor paint and buff it for the shine.
you can bring paint samples or pictures into walmart and they can scan them and color match them. anything is available.
When you say duplicolor...you mean in the can...not spray?
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
Yeah I've seen some okay roller jobs and they were not even trying to do it nicely it was more like "hey lets see what this will do"
If there is a certain paint that is suited well for rolling onto the car I might get some. I always had trouble with the hood and roof coming out good an this seems to be a nice solution over trips to the spray booth.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
Some people actually got good results from this method. But IMO it only works well on basic gloss non-metallic colors. I.E. black, red, white, grey, yellow, etc.
This one looks like an oldschool NES:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...2_181_full.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...2_200_full.jpg
The materials may be $50....but to get a really crystal clear shine though, a good electric buffer is a must. Polishing by hand can only do so much and it still looks hazy. If you already have a spray gun, I think a spray gun would be better cus it cuts down alot on wetsanding since spraying puts on a much more even layer than a roller would....also less chance of orange peel and it can get paint in tight places where a roller can't reach. Only thing with spraying is all the masking and face mask use.
Having no clearcoat also means more maintenance waxing/polishing if you want to keep that shine. Whereas with clearcoat, washing with carwash soap and water is all you need to keep that shine.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
hey isnt there a clear though for that rustolium stuff? i thought someone mentioned a clear coat from that same brand?
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Originally Posted by BITESIZE
When you say duplicolor...you mean in the can...not spray?
yes. and DONT SHAKE TO MIX....HAND STIR.
and IF YOU READ THOSE THREADS..you will se that the issue of a gloss clear coat (or any clear coat) is discussed to a great length. the shine is very glossy as you can see i nthe pictures but does require some buffing to get there. the reason for the electric buffer is that your fingers dont provide for an even buff. i picked up a perfect little bufer and walmart for 20 bucks. read those threads guys! they answer all your questions!
and yeah spraying would be better, of course pro jobs would be better.....but for 50 bucks and a days worth of work you could get rid off that bondo and primer look!!
im not saying its a perfect slution to last you the rest of your cars life. im saying its the perfect job for someone who's car looks like shit and needs a full coat of paint everywhere (to cover up the bondo and primer), and maybe wants to keep the car but doesnt know if they are going to keep working on it....
its a great temp job.
i havea lip kit for my av6 thats taking up space, i havent mounted it because iif i bring it to a shop to mount and paint match it..then im going to pay BIG $$$ for a paint job that wunt match in a year. my car has plenty of little dings and lots of scratches from katrina. She is getttting a new paint job, most likely with her new engine/tranny which will come at the end of this one. i give it about a year. im not waiting a year to have this freaking kit taking up space in my apartment and im not paying huge bucks to have it matched to a color thats already got hella imperfections. this will match it (hopefully) close enough for me to mount the kit, have it look semi decent (instead of those baby blue primer body kits and mis matched cars) for the time being so i can gain back this space and even see if i really like this kit and want it on there when she gets a multi-thousand dollar paint job.
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Originally Posted by ICEMAN707
Some people actually got good results from this method. But IMO it only works well on basic gloss non-metallic colors. I.E. black, red, white, grey, yellow, etc.
I think a spray gun would be better cus it cuts down alot on wetsanding since spraying puts on a much more even layer than a roller would....also less chance of orange peel and it can get paint in tight places where a roller can't reach. Only thing with spraying is all the masking and face mask use.
Having no clearcoat also means more maintenance waxing/polishing if you want to keep that shine. Whereas with clearcoat, washing with carwash soap and water is all you need to keep that shine.
they discuss the issue of metalic colors in those threads. they say flake colors and effects dont work out to well. and if you read the threads you see the use of a foam brush is used to smooth out and take of places the roller cant read well. if your patient it will come out right.
and mike...you said you had trouble with how it came out....how thin was it? the biggest problem mentioned in all these threads is the people who thought they had it too thin but still had it too thick. you want it like water man.
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THANKS BUNCHES TO jESTER FOR THIS POST!!!!
I like to express graditude for those that provide useable infor for our cars, its cause Im "the ole mighty one" as tagged by another member, Old man is another one though Im only two duece double shots.
The important points of Jesters post is the fact that you can recoat this stuf without stripping, very very good property. If you goof you can clay block, wet sand very carefully ...I recommend using dish soap a lil bit inthe water bucket your sanding from. Another thing its it can save you enough money or custom paint after its cured, such as peal away effect, flames, lightening, smiley faces....whatever floats you nads. i worked several years myself in paint and body, I have painted in boothes, in the yard, in the woods,shhhhhh, the biggiest thing is prepwork, and paying close attention to enviornment, dust and flying debris no matter how small, bugs, temperature, um a friend pulling up to 100 feet away with fresh armor all on his tires.wind, all sorts of stuf, a good painter does this stuff instinctivly almost have to actlike a CFDC worker...lol , modern facilities help these potential problems to increase productivity.
I am very interested n this product, another reason is local ordinances about spraying cars in your back yard shop. My neighbor paints like a MF, he is one of the best flame with shadows, or ghost flame layout dudes I ever met, he does choppers, neked ladies, all of it, Im gonna take him some special brownies so I can get some peel back, or ghost flame on my old LX, also want something done on my crownvic interceptor too, like ghost waving checkerboard or something for wifes kid cab, its still too narcky looking (not that is bad, but I dont want drive bys in my yard )even with the white letter tires ... its gonna take a lot of brownnies,, lol
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
Since this stuff is made for painting furniture anyways, I would try painting a sidetable/nightstand first to practice on. I would also roll on a few coats of clearcoat on top of the basecoat to get a deeper shine. Just like using polyurethane on hardwood floors. They use a big floor sander and buffer to get it super smooth and shiny after that. Takes alot of wetsanding/recoating/buffing to get it perfect and super shiny with no haze. Cheap comes in the expense of extra elbow grease when it comes to this method. But it's definitely worth trying out.
I believe you can also do metallics with this method by way of using rattle can first of the basecoat metallic color you want, then rolling on the 6+ coats of Rustoleum clearcoat over that. Making sure you build a thick enough layer of clearcoat to work on when you wetsand so the sandpaper doesn't go through to the basecoat and ruin it. It's gonna take alot of coats to get it thick enough since you'll be rolling on clearcoat in the consistency of water.
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Originally Posted by frantik
too bad u can't do metallics with it :(
Do you mean painting metallics or getting metallic colors? Because the guy said it is best to paint right onto bare metal.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
He means metallic paint. You can't do a roll-on job with metallic paint for obvious reasons that it has metallic glitter in it. It would leave ugly rolling patterns all over the surface you are painting on and you can't sand it smooth. You can only do a roll-on job with a basic gloss color. No metallics, pearls, chameleons, etc. - gotta spray those to get an even coat. After that, you CAN roll-on clearcoat, but it's gonna take a shitload of sanding to get it smooth and get the orange-peel off. Pretty risky if you never done paint work before. Spraying is always better, saves time in finish sanding in expense of taking more time for masking, having paint fumes, and wearing a mask and goggles as well as other necessary spraying equipment.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
this is just nutz. I dont see any metallic paints tho. Just damn flat ones :thumbdn:
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well u could roll a flat color then spray a metallic over if u do it right it should look real good
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I am so doing this when my bodywork is done. I read all 80+ pages on it.
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Can you buy the metal flakes to put in the Rustoleum? I'm going to shoot it with a HVLP Gun.
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hey bitesieze when do you think you will paint it?...i cant wait...if yours come out good il paint mine the same
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Originally Posted by MessyHonda
hey bitesieze when do you think you will paint it?...i cant wait...if yours come out good il paint mine the same
Probably in Spring time, when it starts warming up. It gets pretty damn cold in Idaho during the winter, so it wouldn't turned out as well as warmer weather. I've still got alot of body work do, especially since the wreck.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
i might try this on our barina for a test lol ill try do it cheaply-er
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
You should, I want to see the outcome.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
Can you spray it with a wagner :)
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Originally Posted by A20A1
Can you spray it with a wagner :)
OOOO. good question mike. i would say thats one to test. the best part about this paint/ method is you have 1 or 2 outcomes...
1 you loose 20 bucks worth of walmart paint (personally ive spent more on stupid shit)
2 you come out with a bangin paint jjob for 20 bucks.
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Originally Posted by A20A1
Can you spray it with a wagner :)
I remember someone on Moparts saying they used one, and it turned out good. Just wetsand it more if use the wagner I'd say.:bong:
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
if i wanted to do a clearcoat over top, can i polish my basecoat and lay clear over that to get an extra shine? or do I lay clear over top of my last coat?
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Originally Posted by qh187
if i wanted to do a clearcoat over top, can i polish my basecoat and lay clear over that to get an extra shine? or do I lay clear over top of my last coat?
Well, if your doing this roller brush job, you better wet sand the base coat nice & even before you lay clear on. Yeah, lay the clear over your last coat of base. Personally, I wouldn't lay clear on using a roller brush, just don't make sense unless you like wet sanding a lot.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
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Looks good Reno
Got any outside pics.
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Originally Posted by picopop
Looks good Reno
Got any outside pics.
Nothing yet, I just took these right now, cuz I put my corners in and its dark outside anyway, ill have some later this week
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
nice man nice just paint around the edges and your set
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i am going to do this in the summer but for now i am going to do a rattel can job
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SWEEEET! I was just debating with my bro about paint on his '88 accord 4-dr and he was complaining about the cost but i think we've found the solution! If i do the 2 coats & wetsand, 2 coats & wetsand, 2 coats & wetsand and get a nice smooth finish should I shoot some clear over top to give it the shine? Also, what colours can this method be used for? (we were thinking either a black or white, but all options are open).
thanks guys.
-Tom
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
black will show everything , white kinda hides stuff . alltho i did see reasonable cheap paint at advanced auto parts today , liek $20 a quart of paint but its duplicolor i dunno how good it is
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I'm trying it. I just gotta get my bodywork done, which should be probably in the next week or 2. In the mean time, I am going to do a test on a door off my mom's old windstar. I'm buying paint and supplies thursday. Is anyone interested in me posting pics, or is the mopar website enuf?
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Originally Posted by brownj218
I'm trying it. I just gotta get my bodywork done, which should be probably in the next week or 2. In the mean time, I am going to do a test on a door off my mom's old windstar. I'm buying paint and supplies thursday. Is anyone interested in me posting pics, or is the mopar website enuf?
you can do your whole car with an airbrush if you want.
after mine was painted i took the left over paint and some clear and did all the trim with it and it came out great.
although i was dumb and didnt ask the body guy so i didnt realize it had to have hardener for it to ever dry. so it was tacky for a while and collected dust, but i will fix it someday.
anyway, despite that stupidity it came out great.
and actual auto paint isnt that expensive. but clear is like 100 bucks a gallon.
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I was about to test this roll-on method on my junker b4 repainting my 88... but then a friend offered to loan me a sprayer. I just rebuilt my tranny and want my car to look decent. Any advice on which way to go?
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Originally Posted by jennwv
I was about to test this roll-on method on my junker b4 repainting my 88... but then a friend offered to loan me a sprayer. I just rebuilt my tranny and want my car to look decent. Any advice on which way to go?
I would get some scrap parts from a junkyard, and practice spraying before i would spray a car.
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Do you re-use the foam roller? If so, how do you clean it after each use?
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wow, going back to read my own post on this old thread. I was out of my ever lovin mind, I don't even remember writing it. That was a little over a week after having back surgury and pretty heavily medicated :lol:
Basically nothing was said that was not true but dam.
Don't do drugs folks, even though you think you are all together you really ain't and it shows... anyway back on topic
It is very possible to get a nice look out of rattle cans, and brushes or rollers. Use high quality materials, no nylon bristles, and pay close attention to your environment. Sanding- very important to use sponge blocks for wet and hard blocks for dry. Use a tack rag, have two on hand if you can.Also, there is equipment out there now that You can use to spray professional automotive paint without having large shop two stage compressor and expensive paint guns. Harbor freight, pep boys, for example have paint guns that clone the high dollar ones.. for a tenth of the price , just fine for personal hobby use.
Also You can use small oil-less compressors, hooked together to an extra air tank you use for tires.
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dont do it!!! lol, i did it on my moms van hood, after about 6 months now i guess, its peeling like a mother. and i prepped it real good. i had the time cuz i was only doing a hood. ya, i think its the canadian winters, but its peeling everywhere. its been outside since i painted it
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Originally Posted by
roodoo2
wow, going back to read my own post on this old thread. I was out of my ever lovin mind, I don't even remember writing it. That was a little over a week after having back surgury and pretty heavily medicated :lol:
Basically nothing was said that was not true but dam.
Don't do drugs folks, even though you think you are all together you really ain't and it shows... anyway back on topic
It is very possible to get a nice look out of rattle cans, and brushes or rollers. Use high quality materials, no nylon bristles, and pay close attention to your environment. Sanding- very important to use sponge blocks for wet and hard blocks for dry. Use a tack rag, have two on hand if you can.Also, there is equipment out there now that You can use to spray professional automotive paint without having large shop two stage compressor and expensive paint guns. Harbor freight, pep boys, for example have paint guns that clone the high dollar ones.. for a tenth of the price , just fine for personal hobby use.
Also You can use small oil-less compressors, hooked together to an extra air tank you use for tires.
would a Elec paint gun work?
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Where do I get Tremclad I was told rustolem professional in gray gallon is equivalent to tremclad. Does it have to be oil based or no? No one around here has heard of Tremclad. Any pictures of the rustoleum gallon would be appreciated.
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Re: $50 paint job...dyi..and hot as hell
yall haave walmart rite? go get the rustolem in the quarts from there they should be like $7-8bucks thats what most ppl use theres some how toos and shit on like honda-tech
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Just thought I would give you all a chance to see what it is about.
http://www.chrisrowland.com/honda1.htm
This is my car and I have been working on it. Approx 4 days worth of work (working about 1-2 hours a day at the most).
For a 20 year old car I don't think it looks too bad.
Also I haven't polished it up yet so it will be looking better than the pictures (I also have to remove the painters tape, fix mistakes, etc).
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Originally Posted by
partyharty
Just thought I would give you all a chance to see what it is about.
http://www.chrisrowland.com/honda1.htm
This is my car and I have been working on it. Approx 4 days worth of work (working about 1-2 hours a day at the most).
For a 20 year old car I don't think it looks too bad.
Also I haven't polished it up yet so it will be looking better than the pictures (I also have to remove the painters tape, fix mistakes, etc).
nice timeline
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Originally Posted by
partyharty
Just thought I would give you all a chance to see what it is about.
http://www.chrisrowland.com/honda1.htm
This is my car and I have been working on it. Approx 4 days worth of work (working about 1-2 hours a day at the most).
For a 20 year old car I don't think it looks too bad.
Also I haven't polished it up yet so it will be looking better than the pictures (I also have to remove the painters tape, fix mistakes, etc).
damn that looks pretty good i was going to do mine that same color
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Originally Posted by
Dark_Accord
damn that looks pretty good i was going to do mine that same color
I like it, I was really getting worried about it because when I first started painting, the color was John Deer Green :wtf:
Once I got a few coats on the car, the color started darkening up. It is still not what I consider hunter green but it is getting there.
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Originally Posted by
partyharty
I like it, I was really getting worried about it because when I first started painting, the color was John Deer Green :wtf:
Once I got a few coats on the car, the color started darkening up. It is still not what I consider hunter green but it is getting there.
yeah i think ima get a can this summmer and try it out on my trunk and if i cant get it to come out good il just sand it back down and primer it again lol
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Be warned the first few coats will look like crap, if you are doing it right , they will not cover up the paint job below. It took 4-5 coats before I started thinking that it might actually work
(I was checking out paint for my spray rig, because I thought the current paintjob was ruined, I decided to finish up with the paint I had and in the end it started looking a lot better)
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Hey Partyharty nice looking paintjob. What kind of paint did you use? Did you wetsand after 2 coats? I want to do mine one of these days I think I'll go over the stock paint like you did.
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Partyharty, did you even do any prep work? Did you paint right over the pinstripe lol?
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bank2me
Hey Partyharty nice looking paintjob. What kind of paint did you use? Did you wetsand after 2 coats? I want to do mine one of these days I think I'll go over the stock paint like you did.
I used rustoleum professional hunter green.
I wetsanded after about 3 coats (I started painting one day and didn't quite finish the car so I just did 2 more coats and wet sanded after that. The rustoleum will stick to the stock paint fine. I did screw up a place on my car where the rubber molding is, I taped up around the molding so I could spray the bedliner coating on the moldings. When I pulled the tape the paint was not dry enough and it pulled some of the paint off below it. I get to fix that. Did the other side with no problems whatsoever so I am guessing that the paint simply was not cured enough on that side of the car.
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BITESIZE
Partyharty, did you even do any prep work? Did you paint right over the pinstripe lol?
ya caught me :)
I did a little prep work. I sanded the car with 600 grit paper before I painted. I tried to remove the pinstripe and it was not coming off (I tried a heat gun, taking it to the car wash and using the high pressure sprayer to "cut" it off, I even tried to use a scraper to just scrape it off (ended up messing up the paint around the pin stripe). I got a lot of it off but there was a lot that simply would not come off. As I was going for functional more than looks, I elected to paint over what was left.
I am planning to run another pinstripe over it (in the same place) when I am done so that way it won't look too bad. It needs something to break up the green now (lol)
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Nice Harty do you have any pics of the car now? and how many gallons of paint did you use?
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bank2me
Nice Harty do you have any pics of the car now? and how many gallons of paint did you use?
I just updated the site
http://www.chrisrowland.com/honda1.htm
I used about 1.5 quarts.
-Chris
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Party how did you wetsand yours? And how long did you wait after painting to wetsand?
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bank2me
Party how did you wetsand yours? And how long did you wait after painting to wetsand?
I tried to pretty much stick to a 2 a day regiment :)
Meaning I would usually wet sand in the morning, wash down the car, dry it off with a cloth and then paint, then I would roll it again in the afternoon. I am on my 2nd wet sanding and my 5ish coat of paint (some area's have 4 and some have 5).
Now yesterday I just did a little touch up to several area's and wet sanded (it was going to rain). It is supposed to be good weather this weekend and I am hoping to finish it up by Sunday.
and to answer a question you had on another thread, I have washed the car down with a hose (just with the pressure from the house) within 12-24 hours of painting but I would not use a power sprayer for a while. The paint takes a while to dry. I have a couple of places where I taped the car (for trim and what not) and when I pulled off the tape a small section of paint came up with it (because it was not dry enough).
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Harty Did you use just the foam on the roller or did you put the fuzzy fabric over the foam and paint it that way? I'm gonna start today on my hatch and see what happens.Also did you wipe the car with mineral spirits after painting:gun:?
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bank2me
Harty Did you use just the foam on the roller or did you put the fuzzy fabric over the foam and paint it that way? I'm gonna start today on my hatch and see what happens.Also did you wipe the car with mineral spirits after painting:gun:?
I did wipe the car with mineral spirits each time BEFORE I painted it. Since I was painting outside, this allowed me to wipe off all the pollen, bugs, etc
I just used the foam on the roller (not sure what you are talking about regarding the "fuzzy fabric". Be sure to get the right roller though, pretty much anything else leaves a pattern in the paint.
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Thanks Party for the help my rollers came with the fabric you put over the foam and then paint. I will just use the foam then. Maybe I'll try wiping the car with mineral spirits first. Do you know if the rustoleum will be ok over bondo?
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bank2me
Thanks Party for the help my rollers came with the fabric you put over the foam and then paint. I will just use the foam then. Maybe I'll try wiping the car with mineral spirits first. Do you know if the rustoleum will be ok over bondo?
I did not use bondo but I believe that it will work. Check out the thread over on moparparts (do a google search for $50 paint and mopar and it should be the first result). I actually finished my car tonight (pictures are up at my site).
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partyharty
I have a couple of places where I taped the car (for trim and what not) and when I pulled off the tape a small section of paint came up with it (because it was not dry enough).
You're usually supposed to pull the tape off when the paint is still wet. This prevents the tape from peeling the paint off. However, since you're obviously doing many coats, I'm really not sure what would work best for you.
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guyhatesmycar
You're usually supposed to pull the tape off when the paint is still wet. This prevents the tape from peeling the paint off. However, since you're obviously doing many coats, I'm really not sure what would work best for you.
You are correct. This was one of the things I figured out afterwards. The good thing is that I was able to fix it up in the end so it is really hard to tell where the paint was pulled up.
This is my first car to paint so I did have a bit of a learning curve. I am pretty sure if I had picked up a spray gun though I could have really done some damage :wave:
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Harty How long did you wait between painting separate coats? How long do you wait til wetsanding it?
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bank2me
Harty How long did you wait between painting separate coats? How long do you wait til wetsanding it?
Usually about 8 hours between coats. If you paint a second coat b4 the first is dried then you will have problems. Wetsanding was done pretty much 8 hours after the paint was put on the car.
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So Harty I think I will put a few coats on tommorow, I don't have to work so I'm going to take advantage of it. I should get pics up.
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sounds great. I would like to see your results.
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Hey harty what did you mean orange peel? You said you sand til there is no more orange peel.
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Hey Harty I painted yesterday and was going to continue today but is going to rain. But lookks decent so far. I'm not sure what the orange peel is though.
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what would i do if i want to take my unpainted bumpers and side trim and paint them a gloss black, what kind of paint you recommend for the unpainted bumbers, and would rollers really be more usefull on those pieces then spraying? and how much would a buffer/wet sander cost for someone who doesnt own that equipment
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chowder
what would i do if i want to take my unpainted bumpers and side trim and paint them a gloss black, what kind of paint you recommend for the unpainted bumbers, and would rollers really be more usefull on those pieces then spraying? and how much would a buffer/wet sander cost for someone who doesnt own that equipment
Hey chowder I finished the $50 job on my car and it turned out decent but i went with black (wouldnt reccomend black). I just painted over my bumpers cause my car came with fuckin plastic unpainted bumpers. They turned out fine. The rollers will do the job.
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chowder
what would i do if i want to take my unpainted bumpers and side trim and paint them a gloss black, what kind of paint you recommend for the unpainted bumbers, and would rollers really be more usefull on those pieces then spraying? and how much would a buffer/wet sander cost for someone who doesnt own that equipment
get some of the nappa brand flexible bumper primer and spray them after cleaning them really well, it's a high build flex primer,so if you do several coats you can wet sand it. i don't know what would be the point of using a roller on your bumper when you can use a few cans of quality bumper paint in spray cans. of course you can do the cheap route and paint right over the plastic with the wrong paint,then have it flake off in six months. you don't need a sander to do it anyway,you wet sand it by hand.
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l cause there isnt enough bumber black in the world to get my bumpers black again the sun has taken them. so i figured i just paint them black instead. and thanks
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hes talking about repainting them with the oem black made for bumpers lol
this
http://www.duplicolor.com/gallery/ga...can_bumber.jpg
i use this now though
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/0592543.jpg
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how long does that krylon last and how easy is it to apply
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It lasts forever, I use it myself. It has a really wide-spray nozzle so its really easy to apply.
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its great paint and easy to use mayne
get satin or semi satin
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And remember, 99% prep, 1% paint.
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this stuff is awesome, only available from the guy with the white van parked at the end of the abandon parking lot in YOUR CITY HERE down the road from walgreens
http://wurthindustry.thomasnet.com/A...in%20Black.jpg
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you can get the quality stuff like that from any good automotive paint store . for anyone who hasn't gone in there,thats where you get the good stuff in cans
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BITESIZE
When you say duplicolor...you mean in the can...not spray?
Correct you just search for the paint in a can with that name select your color and get a very fine roller and wetsand after 6-10hours (depending on where your painting), re-coat immediatly, use about 3/4 of a can depending on the size of your car. Best part about this is its fool proof after you thin it and i can do it in my garage!
Truth is i bought rattle cans and was going to paint my car but i said screw that when i read this post. Thx 3Geez!
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*jizz*
totally doing this in the spring....
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lostforawhile
you can get the quality stuff like that from any good automotive paint store . for anyone who hasn't gone in there,thats where you get the good stuff in cans
I agree, it would be rare to find a high quality product from a chain store. IMO this is the "RICER" way out lol. A rattle can can never reproduce the same atomization/spray pattern than a real gun can put down.
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has anyone used a matte paint for this method? ex: matte black, white, blue. also called flat.
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I know this might be gravedigging but....
We don't have tremclad/rustoleum in New Zealand.
Would this paint below work if I wanted to paint my car :P
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-...-436083641.htm
I was think of just sanding it to the metal and then give it a few coats of primer with a spray can. Then rolling on that white paint above :D
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12v
I know this might be gravedigging but....
We don't have tremclad/rustoleum in New Zealand.
Would this paint below work if I wanted to paint my car :P
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-...-436083641.htm
I was think of just sanding it to the metal and then give it a few coats of primer with a spray can. Then rolling on that white paint above :D
Dont sand down to bare metal. It will be very hard to bond paint. The stock paint is a great base for more coats of paint. Just sand the entire car. But not to bare metal.
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I gotta say that I wouldn't do this method. It is cheap, but good GOD what a lot of work. You paint on a thin coat and then sand like a mofo for a few years. Do that fifty times and you'll have results like the pic in about 17 years. I would buy a cheap sprayer from Harbor Freight and build a cheap wood-frame booth in my yard. Just me though. I think rattle-canning anything is generally frowned upon here.
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I've roller painted quite a few cars over the years, done a few gloss, a couple metallic and a huge amount of matt ones, and it's not that bad really.
Sanding down the creases however can be a real pain in the ass, like on the Accords where the hood is raised, sanding that little edge would be a pain to get it evenly sanded, but it can be done quickly and easily with a bit of practice.
First car I roller painted was a Volvo 940 station wagon, and it took a grand total of 3 hours to do the paint job, including prep time. Admittedly that was matt black so a bit easier, and no sanding every couple of coats, but you can get awesome results with a roller.
I would advise getting a spare hood first of all to practice on though, just so you know what you're doing before you actually get stuck in there y'know?
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i'm trying this on the 3gee right now, super ghetto, I'll sneak in some pics tomorrow.
I'm impressed so far.
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POS carb
i'm trying this on the 3gee right now, super ghetto, I'll sneak in some pics tomorrow.
I'm impressed so far.
Just make sure you take your time..I did this to my 3gee a few months ago and it looked great after the first 4 coats but wasn't fully covered and i didn't sand it down before adding a fifth coat and it ended up looking terrible and the end paint job after 6 coats looked terrible, i'm in the process of repainting it now (with a gun) it definitely would have looked very nice had i taken my time and remembered to sand it