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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Well, another afternoon well spent makes for another update! We put some time in three main areas last night, the first being the fuse box corner. The goal is to clean up the engine bay as much as possible, so I'll be lowering the battery to Calabek's location in the open bumper square, and lowering the fuse box into the area where the battery lived, opening up the strut tower nicely, and also covering up a whole bunch of cords that run through there at the same time, I like it! The next project was cleaning up the hacked up core support. Since I have a taller radiator that's half as long, I diced up part of the support to make it work, and last night had that piece of metal getting de-burred and cleaned up before paint, nice! Then lastly is the quest to make hood struts work, after a failed attempt at fabricating brackets and 3d printing fasteners to shove a strut where it didn't want to be, we took some advice from a Cadillac STS, and swung the struts forward! They clear a lot better than the previous idea, and the ones that are currently in there are representative of the longer struts I need to source, but the current forecast has them coming from a Hummer H3, so we'll see how that works! Of course, getting the lift force to work for a stock hood and a carbon fiber hood is gonna take some more cash, but I'd love to find an off the shelf part for both! And there's lots of plans to do stuff long term, and that's good news! Here's a solo image to show things freshly mocked up, check it out!
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    ... I lied, here's one more as a bonus for reading all that text!
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    Until next time!
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    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Quote Originally Posted by B0CKS View Post
    Well, another afternoon well spent makes for another update! We put some time in three main areas last night, the first being the fuse box corner. The goal is to clean up the engine bay as much as possible, so I'll be lowering the battery to Calabek's location in the open bumper square, and lowering the fuse box into the area where the battery lived, opening up the strut tower nicely, and also covering up a whole bunch of cords that run through there at the same time, I like it!
    GG. Depending on how your mounting for it goes expect to have to cut your fender liner. Mine just didn't play nicely which sucks because when we were eyeballing it looked like it was going to sit snuggly into it.

    I would also suggest perhaps incorporating a battery isolater switch so you don't have to take the bumper off every time you want to disconnect the battery if you plan on having the car sitting.

    Great idea moving the fuse box down into where the battery sat. It's a good spot for it. I chose to keep mine in the open so I can show off the JDM fuse box.

    Speaking of, has that special package arrive yet?

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Love the build man! I shouldn’t be too far behind you (knock on wood) with my own custom white 3geez vision. Yes, I am going to steal some ideas. Also, love the Corvairs. My first car, back in 1991 was a 1965 Monza 110.

    Keep up the good work!
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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Quote Originally Posted by bscanlan View Post
    Love the build man! I shouldn’t be too far behind you (knock on wood) with my own custom white 3geez vision. Yes, I am going to steal some ideas. Also, love the Corvairs. My first car, back in 1991 was a 1965 Monza 110.

    Keep up the good work!
    Wow, thanks so much! I'm sure you'll surpass me, I'm not a quick worker! But I'm so glad to hear that this build has come influence, I'm glad these silly posts are going to use! I can't wait to see what you create, and that you chose a 3gee in the best color to build!

    And no way! I'm really impressed with how many people on this page have stories about 'Vairs, but I have to admit that they've certainly got a lot of the same ethos and reputation, a unique and underappreciated economy car with clean, timeless lines seem to describe both pretty aptly, so it's cool to hear that they're "common" stall siblings. And thanks for the compliments on the Corvairs, I'll pass on the word the next time I'm working with my old man on 'em!

    Stay tuned, there's a lot more coming down the pipeline, we'll just take it day by day!
    Last edited by B0CKS; 03-11-2019 at 11:35 AM.
    I've got two headaches;
    1) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: Getting a Dual Weber B18B1 Swap on air ride
    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

    Build thread! http://b0cks.blogspot.com

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Quote Originally Posted by Calabek View Post
    GG. Depending on how your mounting for it goes expect to have to cut your fender liner. Mine just didn't play nicely which sucks because when we were eyeballing it looked like it was going to sit snuggly into it.

    I would also suggest perhaps incorporating a battery isolater switch so you don't have to take the bumper off every time you want to disconnect the battery if you plan on having the car sitting.

    Great idea moving the fuse box down into where the battery sat. It's a good spot for it. I chose to keep mine in the open so I can show off the JDM fuse box.

    Speaking of, has that special package arrive yet?
    Haha, still waiting for a special envelope, but it should be here sometime this week! Still geeked to have scored one, can't wait to throw it on!

    Totally, I feel bad kinda' burying my fuse box! I think it'll still be enough of a read that it isn't a total loss of a cool touch! And you called it, I've got an isolator and a positive terminal (for jumping it, when I inevitably kill the battery ) in an ebay cart right now, and plans to integrate them into the fuse box brackets, I'll be sure to make some callouts in the next post, I've got it (mostly) sorted! I'll pass on unnecessary bumper pulling if I can!

    Dang, that's rough! But me and my fender liner aren't on good terms anyways, and could use a good cutting! ...but I'll certainly keep an eye out, did you have to relocate the horn? That's the only thing I can think of that would poise an issue.

    P.S, dude, you gotta stop posting food on Facebook, I'm sitting in a cubicle and half my feed is making me hungry for desert lmao
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    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

    Build thread! http://b0cks.blogspot.com

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Alright! Updaaaaates!

    I'm still doing my best to dodge around the wiring harness, basically doing anything I can to put that off, since it's terrifying! Instead, I put some hours into deleting brackets, cleaning up the engine bay, and other odds and ends. I've got a heap of no longer used parts growing in the trunk, those being: the coil pack support, power steering fluid container bracket, the brake booster vacuum hose arm, the OEM overflow tank (& bracket!), the prop valve heat shield, fuse box rear support, pedal cluster cable management bracket over the engine mount and finally the throttle cable bracket (which is TBD. Might be putting that back on, that mostly depends if I can figure out how to make custom cables! Or, does anyone know someone who can??).
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    That said, there's a lot of things I need to make, the biggest one being the support for the fusebox, which is in stage two of three right now! Our first step was to mock something up out of cardboard, just to sorta' get it in the place it wants to be. I utilized the battery tray bolts on the inner side of the frame rail, and made a small bracket that used the cold air intake screw and another OEM hole to match up to the little support that's part of the injection molded fuse box.
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    ...and after realizing that setup had the box too high, I made another pass and got into sheetmetal, this time making a C-shaped central support bracket and shortened frame side bracket with a slight bend to match up to the existing fuse box screws. I'm not perfectly pleased with it yet, so I'll make one more with provisions for a positive battery terminal lead and isolator, fingers crossed that all the packaging works!
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    So that was the main thing, there's some different things here and there, but in the downtime I mocked up a better idea for my hanging subwoofer plan, using a trapezoid shaped box to hang over the tank so that it's still visible, and using all the space that's up there so I can have two subs instead of one in a clunky box! Nice!!
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    ...and to send off this post, we got a new (super bright) neon blue clock in the barn, which makes for some very Instagram lighting.
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    'Till next time!
    Last edited by B0CKS; 03-12-2019 at 07:21 AM.
    I've got two headaches;
    1) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: Getting a Dual Weber B18B1 Swap on air ride
    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

    Build thread! http://b0cks.blogspot.com

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    This build is looking so good! I love your attention to detail and how fresh and clean everything is looking!

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndGenGuy View Post
    This build is looking so good! I love your attention to detail and how fresh and clean everything is looking!
    Thanks so much! We often toss the phrase "it'll be cool when its done" around as an excuse to dig ever deeper into the pit of modification, so there's always room for improvement, which it ultimately going to drive this car to mechanical completion, then I'll be tearing down the whole car (again) and then repainting the whole thing (again), so that I can finally get everything right. I've realized cutting corners on this snowball of a build just makes more work for me later, so I'm trying to do as much as I can right! But thanks for staying tuned through this huge learning process! It'll be cool when it's done!
    I've got two headaches;
    1) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: Getting a Dual Weber B18B1 Swap on air ride
    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

    Build thread! http://b0cks.blogspot.com

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Time to catch up from the weekend, as many of these posts have gone, it was mostly focused on a few little details and trying to get them sorted! Friday and Saturday were spent on iteration three of the fuse box relocation, and all its secrets!

    There were a few things I was not happy with with the previous iteration, the main one being a half flange-half harsh edge running across the top, and we hadn't sorted out a location for the remote battery terminal, so it was back to the drawing board! I traced out the previous bracket on a new sheet, made my radius' a bit cleaner, and spot welded the previous screw hole flange onto a new sheet, and dremeled out a hole for the positive post. But pictures describe it easier!
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    And you can see how I (purely by chance!) lined up the positive lead with a divet in the frame here:
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    Which all explains the first bracket, but what about that other C shaped one? I drilled two holes next to the big hole (where most of my wiring will be feeding through) and then drilled through the fuse box (that was honestly a little nerve-racking!) through a hole that mated the two lower fuse box halves together, and put a longer bolt through it, which will ultimately be our third point of support for the box. (PSA, I haven't tested this method of holding the fusebox on the working car, and I highly suggest you don't do it until years from now when you know for a fact that this thing hasn't burned down in an electrical fire! )
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    So... that's about where that project is at for the moment! Still thinking about where to mount the isolator switch, but that's for next weekend, and also, huge shoutout for Calabek to ship one of his extremely cool JDM fuse box stickers literally half-way around the world, it arrived just fine, and I cant wait to be far enough along to finally apply it!
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    So, among a new radiator fan, fancy PC grade fuel line hose clamps, a new carb for the moped, the positive battery lead and other bits, the first part of the new approach for the strut system arrived! I'm using two EXISTING holes and dropping a 17" (compressed) strut onto them for a hopefully low profile strut location that should be around a $40 modification, and let you not have to spacer out your hood! Stay tuned and we may know by next weekend! Fingers crossed!
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    So, another couple steps forward! Only six or seven more eons!
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    I've got two headaches;
    1) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: Getting a Dual Weber B18B1 Swap on air ride
    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

    Build thread! http://b0cks.blogspot.com

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Where is the sub box going. Under the rear deck pointing down?

    I build a triangular sub box that fit flat against the back of the seat in the trunk. The top was 3" thick and the bottom was 10" or so. It looked clean and hardly took up space but wouldn't work if you want to fold down the seat to put longer items through the passthrough.

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Quote Originally Posted by conozo View Post
    Where is the sub box going. Under the rear deck pointing down?

    I build a triangular sub box that fit flat against the back of the seat in the trunk. The top was 3" thick and the bottom was 10" or so. It looked clean and hardly took up space but wouldn't work if you want to fold down the seat to put longer items through the passthrough.
    You're pretty much right on the money! I'll be hanging my box from the package shelf (as the tank lives at the back of the trunk) and pointing my speakers up, which will negate the pass through, but still give me access to the air ride control box if I need to make any repairs, along with staying out of the way of the panel that lifts up to reveal the spare. I wanted to use as much space as I could without impeding on the ever so important "Forged by Morons" decal. We'll see how it fits at the end of the day! Here's a shoddy section view sketch to explain my strange sentences!
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    I've got two headaches;
    1) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: Getting a Dual Weber B18B1 Swap on air ride
    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

    Build thread! http://b0cks.blogspot.com

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    So, in the effort of cleaning up the engine bay, I've been trying to figure out to do with the extremely long pedal cluster cables. The carb'd 3gee is the worst offender when it comes to the length of the throttle cable, speedo, and clutch pedal, so I've been hunting down shorter versions of each. I've found that a fuel injected throttle cable from another 3gee is feet shorter than the carb'd one (thanks Snooz!!), and a DA Integra/ EF Civic both use a shorter clutch cable and speedometer, with a couple little fancy brackets wrapping to the back of the engine, rather than spooling around the front! So I was fortunate to find a DA Integra where Conozo was pulling his burgundy dash just the other day, so now it's on to test fitting!

    The other rad news is about headrests, I've been getting more and more into EF Civics, and noticed that most of them had doughnut/looped headrests (big hole in the center, is there a term??) and was really hoping to find some to fit into the main Accord build. And it turns out, the DA holy headrest slides right into the Accord seats... which means they'll fit the Prelude seats just fine! Custom on custom, can't wait to get those re-upholstered and see what it looks like!

    Holy parts interchange Batman!!
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    I've got two headaches;
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    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

    Build thread! http://b0cks.blogspot.com

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Well! I'm impressed, things went pretty gooood! The clutch cable fits nicely, and only took a little bit of trick to get done, the DA Integra headrest fits the Prelude seat well, and the speedometer cable is (literal inches) from working, so I've got a Prelude one on order, then we should be good for a writeup! Let's dive in!

    Prelude seat? Straight forward as they come! This will get re-upholstered, so don't mind the color clash, what's improtant is that they're see-through!
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    The DA Clutch cable conversion was a bit of a pain, but that's fine! The positives of 1) a shorter cable 2) getting brackets to hold it steady in the engine bay 3) it running behind the block as opposed to in front of it make the this conversion worthwhile!
    So here, proof of point, you can see how the DA cable (left) is about a foot shorter than factory:
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    The only real difference is that the boot for the Integra is too large, so you have to swap those. There's a big flange on the end of each one, so while getting the DA one off is just some wrestling, I had to slice a slit halfway up the Accord one to get it to fit over.
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    So here, you can see the size difference- with the 3gee being much smaller!
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    Then, since the Inner diameter of the 3gee hole wont happily fit around the large DA metal guide, I trimmed off the end so that it expands easier. I was thinking about cutting it further back up the first bend up, but that's a pretty negligible detail.
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    And then boom! It fits over, and will now slide right into where the last one went!
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    Next up, speedo cable.
    While there's more to it than last nights work, here's a sneak preview! The DA cable wont work, but the Prelude one (should) solve the problem! That said, we'll still be getting a cable that's half as long as factory
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    And! I'm giving too much away here, but there's a factory unused hole (well, on both my base model cars) that's specifically the same size as the speedometer cable boot, so that's an easy swap. Although you do have to cut a hole in the steering column support framework, but that will come at a later date!
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    Booya! Details! More photos and info to come as I continue to nerd out! Gonna make this thread soooooo loooong!
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    2) 1988 DX Accord Coupe: that I smashed into a tree and felt bad about so I rebuilt the whole car.

    Build thread! http://b0cks.blogspot.com

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    Re: Bagged B18 '88 DX Coupe Build!

    Awesome fitment! Meant to post yesterday about the headrests; definitely wouldn't work in my cars but I think they will add so much to the final look of your ride! Just the whole combination of the seats/interior and the Manarays and the B18...I love this unique build man and you are doing such great work.

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