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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by cygnus x-1 View Post
    That's fine guys, whenever you're ready.


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    6. Mushroom_toy, 2 pairs or 2 mounts?, coated
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    thanks, I'll be putting up money that we will have to budget in, but it's not like these are made every day, with my setup, it's really important to keep engine movement to a minimum



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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by cygnus x-1 View Post
    I was looking at all the 3gs at the junkyard awhile back and noticed that a few of them have a cast front engine bracket, while some are stamped. They're pretty close in terms of shape but not exactly the same. There weren't enough cars at the yard to figure out any kind of pattern as to which cars have what brackets. So I'm hoping you guys can help. If your front engine bracket looks like the one in this picture, could you tell me the year, model (DX/LX/LX-i/SE-i), and transmission type in you car?

    As far as I can tell all the 3gs use the same front mount, and the engine blocks are all the same. So the only thing that could be different is the cross members. This shouldn't have any effect on the adapter brackets I'm making but I want to understand the difference to make sure.

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    i can't remember exactly how it goes, but i think those cast mounts are on the facelift (88-89) and the steel ones are 86-87. the only issue you would probably have using the cast mount is needing a slightly longer bolt cause of how thick it is

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by A18A View Post
    i can't remember exactly how it goes, but i think those cast mounts are on the facelift (88-89) and the steel ones are 86-87. the only issue you would probably have using the cast mount is needing a slightly longer bolt cause of how thick it is

    That was exactly my first thought, but then I saw an '88 with the stamped bracket, and confusion set in. Good point about the longer bolt though. When the new mounts go out I'll have to make sure people get a longer top bolt if they need it.


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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    il take 2 mounts also as long as i get rid of my dog mount

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    I'll have about a quarter inch clearance between the right fuel bowl and the master cyl, most of the rotation is front to back anyway, with these, and my almost solid dog bone, it should reduce engine movement way down.

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    I noticed that the EFI engines had the cast bracket.

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Oh sorry, I meant a single mount(NOT a pair), coated is fine.
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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Yeah Im wanting a pair, or 2 mounts.
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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    my hatchback is an 87 lxi made in japan and has the stamped mount bracket.

    Not to scare you, but I believe there are 2 different front mounts for the Accord.


    Reason why I say this is because my original front oem mount was an inch shorter than ones at auto parts stores. They all say 86-89, but I believe somewhere along the line the 2 differnt height front mounts got combined into only one higher mount. Not to mention the higher mount has a longer bolt.


    SO basicly there is a higher mount(longer top bolt) used with the cast bracket, and a shorter mount(smaller top bolt) with the stamped steel bracket.


    I was also going to use the gm trany mount as Sean had used it on his with a custom front bracket for his turbo setup, but decided on full custom instead.

    After going to every single auto parts locally and running into the same problem, I finally just started using rear mounts in the front until I got a custom one. The mounts sold at all my local auto parts stores were an inch too tall along with the longer bolt. I installed one just to make sure I wasnt going crazy and it made my engine sit uneven and much higher in the front.



    on another note I have never seen a 86-87 with a cast bracket. They were all stamped steel. I also thought the cast bracket was a revision for the 88-89 as those are the only ones I have seen with the cast bracket.
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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    thanks, I'll be putting up money that we will have to budget in, but it's not like these are made every day, with my setup, it's really important to keep engine movement to a minimum
    would you like paypal before so you can get these going or would you prefer to wait till they are actually done?

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    I'll have about a quarter inch clearance between the right fuel bowl and the master cyl, most of the rotation is front to back anyway, with these, and my almost solid dog bone, it should reduce engine movement way down.
    You would easily be fine with just the mounts. But since you're using the dog bone bracket for other stuff, I agree you might as well keep it.



    Quote Originally Posted by mykwikcoupe View Post
    would you like paypal before so you can get these going or would you prefer to wait till they are actually done?
    I appreciate the offer, but it's not necessary. The material isn't expensive so it's not a big deal.



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    2. 2DRSE-i, 1 pair, coated
    3. 87roach, 1 mount, coated
    4. Mykwikcoupe, 2 pairs, coated
    5. Mykwikcoupe, 1 pair, uncoated
    6. Mushroom_toy, 1 pair, coated
    7. Gtmst3, 1 pair, coated
    8. MessyHonda, 1 pair, coated



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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by guaynabo89 View Post
    on another note I have never seen a 86-87 with a cast bracket. They were all stamped steel. I also thought the cast bracket was a revision for the 88-89 as those are the only ones I have seen with the cast bracket.
    i guess we can say that only the 88-89 fuel injected accords got those cast mounts then

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    That's some good info there. It's not surprising that the aftermarket mounts would be wrong for some years. Pistons are the same way with the top dish that's bigger than on the OEM pistons on the '88-'89 FI engines.

    So what this means is that if your engine happens to have the cast bracket, you might have to swap it for a stamped bracket to use the poly mounts. Or come up with some sort of spacer to take up the difference. Although that would need an even longer top bolt so switching to a stamped bracket is probably better. It's lighter too.

    So do any of you guys on the list have a cast bracket?


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    Quote Originally Posted by guaynabo89 View Post
    my hatchback is an 87 lxi made in japan and has the stamped mount bracket.

    Not to scare you, but I believe there are 2 different front mounts for the Accord.


    Reason why I say this is because my original front oem mount was an inch shorter than ones at auto parts stores. They all say 86-89, but I believe somewhere along the line the 2 differnt height front mounts got combined into only one higher mount. Not to mention the higher mount has a longer bolt.


    SO basicly there is a higher mount(longer top bolt) used with the cast bracket, and a shorter mount(smaller top bolt) with the stamped steel bracket.


    I was also going to use the gm trany mount as Sean had used it on his with a custom front bracket for his turbo setup, but decided on full custom instead.

    After going to every single auto parts locally and running into the same problem, I finally just started using rear mounts in the front until I got a custom one. The mounts sold at all my local auto parts stores were an inch too tall along with the longer bolt. I installed one just to make sure I wasnt going crazy and it made my engine sit uneven and much higher in the front.



    on another note I have never seen a 86-87 with a cast bracket. They were all stamped steel. I also thought the cast bracket was a revision for the 88-89 as those are the only ones I have seen with the cast bracket.

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by cygnus x-1 View Post
    That's some good info there. It's not surprising that the aftermarket mounts would be wrong for some years. Pistons are the same way with the top dish that's bigger than on the OEM pistons on the '88-'89 FI engines.

    So what this means is that if your engine happens to have the cast bracket, you might have to swap it for a stamped bracket to use the poly mounts. Or come up with some sort of spacer to take up the difference. Although that would need an even longer top bolt so switching to a stamped bracket is probably better. It's lighter too.

    So do any of you guys on the list have a cast bracket?


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    i looked i cant really tell

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    count me in... 1 pair (front/back)

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Uhm, well when I swapped in that 89 fi motor it came with the cast bracket. However I couldn't find the bolts for it so I put the stamped bracket and it worked fine.
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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Any news, about to rip my old engine out...
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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    I have all the material but haven't been able to do much with it. Just too much damn work to do at the moment. And unfortunately I don't get paid by the hour.

    The next few days will be hell but we should be over the hump after that. For a little while anyway.


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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by cygnus x-1 View Post
    I have all the material but haven't been able to do much with it. Just too much damn work to do at the moment. And unfortunately I don't get paid by the hour.

    The next few days will be hell but we should be over the hump after that. For a little while anyway.


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    ok just let me know, my car isn't going anywhere right now, but still want to get a set

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    $25/pc powdercoated? I might be able to get them made cheaper for you. Where I work, we deal with tubing fabrication (we build magazine/candy racks for grocery stores). We also powdercoat in-house. If you'd like, I can get a quote, to see what I can get them for.

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    You know what? I'll take one of your coated mounts

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    yeah. I'd be interested in getting a pair of mounts as well.
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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Quote Originally Posted by wh1skea View Post
    $25/pc powdercoated? I might be able to get them made cheaper for you. Where I work, we deal with tubing fabrication (we build magazine/candy racks for grocery stores). We also powdercoat in-house. If you'd like, I can get a quote, to see what I can get them for.
    till you make some we wont buy

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    I can't make them without specs and an OK from Angus. Its his project.

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    Re: Alternative poly engine mounts

    Hey guys, I haven't forgotten about these. Just been busy with work and other higher priority projects. I fully intend to get back to this when I can.

    As for farming out the work, I do appreciate the offer but it would kind of defeat the purpose of me doing the job at all, which is to make a little money on the side by building cool parts. I spent quite a bit of time figuring out how to make these work, so it would be nice to get something back for that. And besides, welding and machining is the fun part! If I was going to outsource work it would be the boring stuff like shipping and order tracking.

    Oh, and my name is Chris not Angus BTW. You're thinking of LX-Incredible.

    Anyway thanks for hanging in there guys. We'll get there.


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