2nd & 3rd GEN ACCORD WEBER 32/36 & 38 HELP

[2old_honda]

Originally posted by baron4406
Ok back with the car from my parents. Some install notes: Was a pretty easy job, made easier by the fact that I knew I had to hack up the throttle linkage. The pics helped ALOT!!! I ended up drilling the support bracket lower not bending it-I felt after looking at it that way would work the best. The hardest job?? Getting the old gasket off the intake!! Made harder by the fact that I was 100 miles away from my VERY well equipped garage and my gasket stripping tools. Ok there was a hesitation and some rough running off idle, which I cured by playing with the mixture screw. The only other bad hesitation is when I engage the secondary, it hesitates alot then accelerates. It almost feels like the secondary accelerator isn't working-or maybe its jetting. I can live with that tho. The only annoying problem is the car runs on badly after you shut it off now.....why is that?? Very strange. Tomorrow I'm tearing everything back off and sealing everything GOOD (I just threw it together to get it back here), there are some small vacuum leaks......and I can't get it to idle at less than 1000 rpms no matter what I do. So was it a worthwhile mod?? I give it a BIG thumbs up-and I haven't even set things up right. BIG seat of the pants improvement and that open element air cleaner is LOUD. The car is actually kinda fun to drive now. Thanks for all the help and I'd appreciate any more tips you have (particularly how to stop the running after the key is off)

it sounds like the car is running really rich, try and lean it out a little bit and see if that helps. mine idles just below 1000 and that is as low as it goes, i think that is mainly a jetting thing. It seems to be ok so i just left it that way. With this carb the car has to be at idle when you shut it off, if you are in the high idle circut or if your idle is too high the car will after-run.

[baron4406]

I always wondered that, there are two vacuum lines on the distributor.....I run them both to vacuum. I have the a/f screw adjusted to when the idle is the highest-but that may be too rich so I'll screw that in a tad.

[myaccord7]

get a weber dcoe. thats what iam saving for.




zach

[MrBen]

One question. Okay actually a few, but it's all about the same thing.

Why get a weber carb over oem?

Why not just rebuild?

[DROPPED88]

webers are better than stock

[DROPPED88]

for performance is a weber
worse than EFI
the same as EFI
or better than EFI

[MrBen]

Gee I didnt know that.


couldya be a BIT more specific

[DROPPED88]

WEBER 38 DGES CARBURETOR do they make an adapter plate for this carb for are cars and if they do they are better than the 32/36 right

[shepherd79]

i like carbs more. they are easier to work with.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

I just started tuning my Weber and it's not that hard and the performace is just plain sweet.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

With Weber you'll get better gas mileage and about 11% to 15% more power.

[shepherd79]

Originally posted by Mike's89AccordLX
With Weber you'll get better gas mileage and about 11% to 15% more power.

better gas mileage? i don't think so. not if you tune it to performance carb.
about the power yeah, 15% at least.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Then how do you tune it to be a performance carb? I've been getting a lot better gas mileage and a lot more power gain. But, maybe I can get more power hmm. Do you have to re-jet it or something? I'm new to the Weber 32/36.

[Nate2310]

what kind of gains do you think you would get out of that?

[DROPPED88]

if i made an adapter for a weber would the cold air intake off the 92 to 95 civic work with modifications like they do on the efi models or is there one of another car that would work better

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Well I just installed my weber air intake. The hella spendy one. I haven't driven it yet. But with your ? I'm sure it would have the same gains as a efi engine would. I think the 92-95 civic CAI would work and fit the same way.

[Neuspeed007]

they dont make a cold air intake for the weber on our car yet. Atleast they havent yet.

[Neuspeed007]

Originally posted by Nate2310
what kind of gains do you think you would get out of that?

5-10 hp ATLEAST

[Neuspeed007]

yes it would

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Or you could do what I did and bought the intake from weber that comes with polished alluminum adapter and short ram intake. You could make the CAI from the civic and use the nice adapter. And in the winter you could put the weber one on so it wont suck up rain.

[Don87LX]

Long time no see,

My webered car is acting oddly. I have had the weber on for about 15k miles or so now with no problems. Just a rare lean best mix adjust to keep things in top shape. Well,over the past few months, it has been develping problems. I cant get the car to properly idle. at the best idle setting this is the best I can get out of her:

9+ attempts to get it to start and stay running in the morning.
Idle speed of 1400 (1000 in gear) any lower and it stalls.
bescause of the high idle it will not cut off without desiling. Lots of smoke (were talking spyhunter-esque here) in the morning.

I understand that desiling and high idle are a sign of a ritch mix, but if I lean it out (even slightly) I go from this piss poor condition, to a non running car. Also the exaust dosent smell of fuel, so it cant be rich enough to cause all this. Vaccuum is all nice and sealed up. Once its running (20+ mins later) the motor is nice and strong, and runs like a champ.

Help.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

I think if you re adjust your idle and then do the a/f it should work. I hope mine doesn't do that.

[PhydeauX]

Smells like a vacuume leak. Check around the base adapter to make sure the bolts haven't come loose. Just spray some carb cleaner down there and if the idle goes up then you've found the problem. Do the check when the motor is still cold, it could just be a little one that seals up once things expand from the heat. Also have you been checking the throttle plate opening when you've been playing with the idle. Some times when you're playing around down there you might turn the screw open to far to keep the car running while you try to get the mixture right. That will cause something like this.

andy

[Don87LX]

I think the Throttle plate opening is ok, but could you step me through checking it just to make sure I have it set properly?

Negative on vaccuum leak, Carb cleaner check was fine, plus I just replaced the cruddy stock weber gaskets with my own nicer cork/rubber ones to fix a previous vac leak.

[PhydeauX]

Back the idle screw out untill its just barely touching the throttle lever, then turn it in 2 turns. Turn the idle mixture screw all the way in and then back it out 1 turn. That'll give you a fresh base to start from.

andy