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    Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Catalyst decided to be an awesome guy and sell me his 1987 LX-i hatchback. The same hatchback that won AoM in December 2007. To say I feel honored would be a massive understatement.

    Since then I had it shipped to my home in South Carolina and have been doing what I can to improve it with whatever spare change I have kicking around.

    Stuff he did:
    Short-ram intake
    2.25" catback exhaust, Magnaflow XL muffler
    Delta 272 cam
    Prime 15" alloy wheels
    Post-facelift front bumper (from my dead sedan)
    JDM corner lights
    Exedy Stage 2 cerametallic clutch
    Tokico Blue struts
    Neuspeed Sport 1.5" lowering springs
    ST front sway bar
    Acura Vigor rear sway bar
    Poly Bushings
    Prelude steering wheel
    Kenwood audio deck, Rockford Fosgate component speakers, sub, and amp
    Bosch fog lights

    Stuff I did:
    Hella air horn kit
    Spoon Sports test pipe
    Innovate MTX-L wideband
    OBD1 conversion: F22 distributor (external coil), P06 ECU (socketed), Moates Ostrich2 EPROM emulator
    Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R summer/performance tires
    Cheaper, not-as-nice-as-SEi dealer-option armrest
    NGK Iridium spark plugs
    EGR delete

    Stuff I need to do:
    -Squash Codes 14 and 17
    -B16A intake
    -Proper dyno tune



















    Last edited by Samwise; 01-08-2016 at 07:58 PM.

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    I always liked that car!

    SO its a A20 but you can tune the ECU i guess?

    I would make sure the ECU is grounded.
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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Yeah, once you go OBD1 you can socket the ECU and run a chip with custom fuel/timing maps. The Ostrich lets me edit the tune on the fly without having to pull the chip out of the ECU and burn a new one every time I make a change.

    It's grounded to the floorpan to the same ground screw as the old ECU.
    Last edited by Samwise; 02-11-2016 at 06:08 PM.

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    oh man i thought you were in California.

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Sprung for some TruckLites.



    Then I thought it looked off, so I got some Sylvania Zevo LEDs for my front side markers as well.



    The highs seem to have a shorter "throw" than the Silverstars did, and there's a very noticeable hotspot, but I'll withhold final judgment until I can get them properly adjusted. I'm quite satisfied aside from that; they're very bright (and actually usefully so), the lows far outperform the Silverstars, and they give the car a very unique and sort of "unnatural" look.

    A few quick shots (fog lights are off):




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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    where did you get those? Last time i looked into those LED's it was like 300 a pop.

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    pullin up turbo spoolin fast lookin fly like a 3g like a 3g like a 3g

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    I have those Trucklites on my motorcycle (only one) and they are just awesome! I think you could aim them a bit higher.

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdurr View Post
    where did you get those? Last time i looked into those LED's it was like 300 a pop.
    They were $450 for the set from Amazon, after tax and shipping. The markers were $15 each from Autozone. My tax return funded them. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by carotman View Post
    I have those Trucklites on my motorcycle (only one) and they are just awesome! I think you could aim them a bit higher.
    Yeah, I think I'm gonna see if I can get them professionally adjusted. I don't have a huge flat wall or anything I can use to do it myself.
    Last edited by Samwise; 02-11-2016 at 05:05 PM.

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Very Jealous of the lights!
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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Did the resistor mod and fixed Code 17. Annoyingly, Crome's Disable ELD option isn't working, so it's still throwing Code 20.

    Also told the black box to fuck itself. Did a writeup in the EFI Tech section.




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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    I completely forgot this thing existed. Anyway, I've been up to a bunch of random crap these past few months. In no particular order:


    Bosch voltmeter, Innovate oil press&temp gauge, Rockford tweeters


    Last air horn broke, got louder one


    Rockford 10" sub (the old ones were shot)


    WOOHOO!!!!!


    Hood struts, Mishimoto oil cooler with GReddy adapter base

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Nice! Glad you are still working & driving this thing. Jealous of that oil cooler

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    pullin up turbo spoolin fast lookin fly like a 3g like a 3g like a 3g

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Soon...hopefully....


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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Awesome. Are you going to make a custom header

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Shane86 View Post
    Awesome. Are you going to make a custom header
    Probably won't make it myself, since I've never touched a welder in my life, but yeah. I missed the boat on the Mosselman manifolds.

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    I believe you can still get them you have to email them and they will send you a link .purchase mine like 6 months ago $ 260 shipped . bmc Machining has the header flange for $60 shipped
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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Ya think they could make it with a TD05 flange?

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    I believe eBay sales the tdo5 to t3 adapters. I believe it would be easier to have a custom-made header then to use the Mosselman header. Clearance issues with the front motor mount
    Last edited by Shane86; 08-29-2016 at 08:51 AM.

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Glad to see the car is still around

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    A thing is about to happen.





    Okay, a little more info. The A20 started knocking pretty bad, and this dude in my car club was selling this for $200. I couldn't pass it up.

    Probably selling the turbo from earlier. Was hoping to boost the A, but it seems like its time has come.

    Anyway, I'm only keeping the bottom end. This is gonna be an LSVTEC, but whether I go with a B16 or B18C1 head depends on whichever pops up for cheap. Plans for the bottom end at the moment:
    -Get block machined and cleaned up
    -OEM crank, have it machined and knife-edged
    -ACL Bearings
    -ARP Rod Bolts
    -OEM rods, have them shotpeened
    -P30 pistons
    -ARP Head Studs
    -Eagle LSVTEC kit
    -I'll figure out plans for the head once I can pick one up.
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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Ohh. Another one falls for the trap. Not a bad score tho foreal. Keep doing the car right!

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    pullin up turbo spoolin fast lookin fly like a 3g like a 3g like a 3g

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    build it for boast. Mine was fun NA but now its time for more power.

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    Always build for boost

    Quote Originally Posted by CAH View Post
    pullin up turbo spoolin fast lookin fly like a 3g like a 3g like a 3g

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    Re: Building Catalyst's 1987 hatch

    I was actually thinking spray would be amusing.

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