bscanlan' Hatch Build - The Sequel

[bscanlan]

Ok, now I really need help. I purchased a new stage 3 spec clutch and a brand new Luk flywheel for this auto to manual swap project. With the pressure plate lined up to the guide pins it appears that the clutch and fly wheel do not lineup properly. I got another cheap fly wheel brand new, and another 0E clutch both through rock auto, and regardless of the combination I seem to still get the same misalignment. How much is this me as a transmission noob, and how much is remarkably bad luck in purchasing two of each, and no combo that works?
In the pic I have the pressure plate lined up with the guide pins and bolt holes, but the three protrusions on the pressure plate friction surface don’t fall into the three voids on he flywheel. I removed the guide pins on the cheaper flywheel so they could line up and fall kn to place, but now no bolt holes line up.

[TubeEmu]

Ok, now I really need help. I purchased a new stage 3 spec clutch and a brand new Luk flywheel for this auto to manual swap project. With the pressure plate lined up to the guide pins it appears that the clutch and fly wheel do not lineup properly. I got another cheap fly wheel brand new, and another 0E clutch both through rock auto, and regardless of the combination I seem to still get the same misalignment. How much is this me as a transmission noob, and how much is remarkably bad luck in purchasing two of each, and no combo that works?
In the pic I have the pressure plate lined up with the guide pins and bolt holes, but the three protrusions on the pressure plate friction surface don’t fall into the three voids on he flywheel. I removed the guide pins on the cheaper flywheel so they could line up and fall kn to place, but now no bolt holes line up.

same thing is happening for me bought a clutch and flywheel on rockauto and it won't line up

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[Dr_Snooz]

I can't say I'm sure what the problem is, but the pins aren't evenly spaced around the outside of the flywheel. In other words, the pressure plate only goes on in one orientation. Even then, some force is required to seat it as the pins don't precisely center in the holes.

That said, my new clutch doesn't release for some reason. I wonder if this isn't my problem as well. When I'm done replacing the engine in my new daily driver, I'll tear the 3g down again and have a look. Stay tuned for more.

[bscanlan]

Thanks Snooz I appreciate your perspective.

[bscanlan]

As I look closer at your post Snooz, you say that the clutch won’t release. Do you mean that it won’t engage or disengage when you depress the clutch? We may be talking about the same thing. Because they are not lining up for me, upon torquing down my six pressure plate bolts I have essentially pushed the diaphragm spring all the way in such that the clutch will not engage. It’s like the pedal is always pushed in from what I can see. Obviously I have not reassembled the motor and put it back in the car, but that diaphragm spring is not in a position it should be as soon as I put the pressure plate on and torque the bolts.

[Oldblueaccord]

It was the same for me I couldnt find a stock flywheel/clutch plate that would go together. I ended up with a clutch net setup which absolutely sucks ass he is a crook.

[ShiRen]

https://actionclutch.com/products/ho...1984-1987-2-0l
Somebody tell me if this thing fits

https://actionclutch.com/pages/produ...1986-1989-2-0l
Paired with one of these

[Oldblueaccord]

https://actionclutch.com/products/ho...1984-1987-2-0l
Somebody tell me if this thing fits

https://actionclutch.com/pages/produ...1986-1989-2-0l
Paired with one of these

If its LA stay away...I just cant do business in Cali its hopeless.

Nice piece made in the USA just seems to good to be true.

I wish I remember what combination of parts I bought to get everything to work. Im pretty sure I bought 3 flywheels before I found one that the pins were indexed correctly and its warped right outta the box.

[ShiRen]

Action clutch is pretty reputable. I would really like to know as its the lightest flywheel you can get for an A series, and the highest clamping force pressure plate. You can get clutch disks all day long from ACT and the likes though.
B series trans is the future for these cars though

[Shane86]

Stage 3

[ShiRen]

Is that just a clutch or flywheel as well?

[Shane86]

Is that just a clutch or flywheel as well?

Just the clutch for now

[ShiRen]

The flywheel does raise some questions because their year ranges for the accord aren't correct, and it doesn't show up under the 3g date range, only the 87 and earlier, but then in the name it says 86-89... I hope that it actually fits

[Shane86]

The flywheel does raise some questions because their year ranges for the accord aren't correct, and it doesn't show up under the 3g date range, only the 87 and earlier, but then in the name it says 86-89... I hope that it actually fits

I know I seen that makes me iffey about it

[ShiRen]

Have you checked the fitment of that clutch on an oem flywheel yet?

[Shane86]

Have you checked the fitment of that clutch on an oem flywheel yet?

Not yet. just got a email from action they can't even make the flywheel

[ShiRen]

That hurts
a2b is the only option for a performance trans then

[Oldblueaccord]

Lemme find my shocked emojii....not for they dont make it but they didnt send you the incorrect one anyway.

There is two flywheels listed on rockauto for about 25$ in the discount parts section.

[ShiRen]

I got my flywheel from Oreillys and it fit my exedy fine. Its the Rockauto ones I would be worried about not fitting. I'm only upset there is not even a prospect of a lightweight flywheel anymore. If the one from Action didn't fit then as long as they take it back. If they don't then that's why I always use paypal for online shops.

[bscanlan]

So I am lucky to work at a Career Tech High School with a great machine shop. I had one of our awesome seniors mill out some beef and now the disc and pressure plate seem to fit better. I had to tighten down just a fraction of the diaphragm spring to get the pressure plate seated, but I think I will have plenty of travel…we will see. Motor goes in within the next month or so, so I can hook up my new clutch cable and see what she feels like.

As a side note, I originally got the Luk flywheel, then bought the cheaper Sachs (both Rock), and it was the Sachs I had milled. I figured I wasn’t sacrificing much money. I also pulled the alignment pins because…well they suck. I’ll keep you all posted.

[ShiRen]

Well... That might be one way to do it

[88LXi68]

This looks like a really cool build. As I was reading through your thread, my flywheel solution was to take it to a machine shop to lighten it and have the alignment pins rectified, but looks like that is exactly what you did. Again, looks great and I can't wait to see the finished product.

[bscanlan]

Thank you 🙏 I too am looking forward to the finished product. I finished blasting, priming, and painting my rear calipers (to match the Wilwood fronts) and the rear trans mount, so motor goes in soon. I’ll post up some updates.

[bscanlan]

O…K…so today was motor drop day! I am running Cheddas solid front cross member, and I swapped auto-to-manual (yeah I know Snooz). So in doing so I have 3 motor mounts; when an auto it had 6. Am I concerned…mildly but what the hell. Then I installed the half shafts and had to persuade the driver side spline-to-hub assembly. I am now taking a nap because I am old and can’t be crawling all over a concrete shop floor anymore. I will get the area cleaned up tomorrow and get more pics…but oh yea, I hooked up the clutch cable and seem to have good engagement and movement with the throw out bearing, so my flywheel milling might just do the trick

[Dr_Snooz]

Your alternator is shiny! Ooooo...