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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    What spring rate did you get?
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    What spring rate did you get?
    Post #2 there sir!

    EDIT:

    Actually rereading I think the rates are stated in post #4.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    LOL. You expect me to remember something I read 2 years ago? I can barely remember what I had for breakfast today!

    The question I really wanted to ask was: What spring rate would you recommend?
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    LOL. You expect me to remember something I read 2 years ago? I can barely remember what I had for breakfast today!

    The question I really wanted to ask was: What spring rate would you recommend?
    DING!

    Why do you think I write stuff here anyway....to remember!

    I think with your tires and such I would be fine with 600 front 400 rear. Thats a pretty standard front to rear ratio on FWD cars our style. you should be able to get what ever you want from them the springs are a standard size so its easy to swap around rates. I think they charged me like 8o$ for two rear springs

    Im thinking you have both the front and rear sway bars correct?
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldblueaccord View Post
    DING!
    I think I deserve one of these for my faux pas:

    Yeah, LX-i suspension, so sway bars front and rear. If the springs are standard, then I assume I can order them in varying heights? I'm thinking a 1.5" and 1" drop front and rear, respectively, ought to do it. Maybe I'll order 1/2" drop springs and torque them down. It's easier to torque them down than make them taller.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    I think I deserve one of these for my faux pas:

    Yeah, LX-i suspension, so sway bars front and rear. If the springs are standard, then I assume I can order them in varying heights? I'm thinking a 1.5" and 1" drop front and rear, respectively, ought to do it. Maybe I'll order 1/2" drop springs and torque them down. It's easier to torque them down than make them taller.
    The threaded body makes it so you dont have to mess with the spring to get the height you want. thats the trick to these. But yes to a point you can get shorter or longer springs if needed.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldblueaccord View Post
    I think with your tires and such I would be fine with 600 front 400 rear. Thats a pretty standard front to rear ratio on FWD cars our style.
    Interestingly enough that's what the spring rates are on the standard Kontrol Pro's (or ballpark at least). https://ksportusa.com/product/kontro...kit-chd240-kp/ I'm not sure if that changed since you ordered them or if you had them send you different springs, even though they sent you the asphalt rally versions, but they certainly aren't 13.5kg/mm f (755lbf/in), 11.5kg/mm (645lbf/in) r. I might be in the market too, at least in a couple months and I was just going to run with what they had on the Kontrol Pros... Not sure though because prelude body swapping is always prospect.

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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    There is alot of formula and ratios front to rear that go into spring rates. you can google motion ratio and ride frequency to delve into it.

    I will say I dont have any confidence in what springs K sport sent me. I dont think they have any idea just going thru there techs in the first 6 months. Some day I will pull them and get all the springs tested and see where I am at.it wouldnt surprise me they just grabbed 4 "setups" off the shelf and boxed them up.

    It hard to see what there game is. I think there more than a warehouse that just drop ships stuff but some of there tech is really questionable. I like there brake kits but I question alot of what they do.

    What ever you go with try and make sure they use standard sized springs that you can swap easily like 2.5" if your into swaping springs.

    EDIT: Also if your running formulas again the STOCK coil rates for our car are mistated in the sticky and some one misstated them again last week. Do some quick internet research or better yet get them checked.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    I found a great vid on corner weighting and suspension tuning. I'll never pay for another alignment job again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcwB8LZfRhQ&t=6s
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    I found a great vid on corner weighting and suspension tuning. I'll never pay for another alignment job again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcwB8LZfRhQ&t=6s

    yes great video really explains alot.

    That guy Finn with the old Camaro his cars really do rip it.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Yeah. All the other car shows have someone talking about how important suspension tuning is, but not showing how it's done. It's like black magic, something you spend a bundle on but never learn how it's done. This vid actually shows it all, which is awesome!
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Just updating: I have been driving the car some during the fall/winter on nice days locally. The rear set up was still annoying to drive with to much bounce and unruly behavior on street. I started every time I drove it adjust the shocks back 2 clicks until I am where I am now at a pretty soft feel for the spring rate. Problem with the adjusters is there really no way knowing where I am at since there is no indication. I add two clicks harder today but the adjusters don't really click anymore just more of a resistance feel.

    The drive is live able at highway speeds + and I been set this way for a few weeks. Again I havent messed with the front it works great and rides better than all my new cars on the same traveled roads.

    I guess my next step is to go full hard again and try and get a baseline where I am at.

    I don't think I will be able to get the springs rates checked again this winter I have to many things going on but I still think the rates need to be checked.

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    OK little fun on an entrance ramp.No changes to the suspension at this time. Same tires too but there aging out. The hanging beads on the mirror are my "G" meter.

    Got the triple block by a trash old nissan and zipped by a 4 circles of slow car. All in fun.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Looks like fun, but do they use the ramps there for missile testing? or do they just bust big chunks out of them for giggles? I see why you drive the 3g. It's the only thing nimble enough to dodge all the road craters.
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    Oh yeah that interchange has always been awful thru there. I use that ramp alot so I know what and where to dodge. its a compression left hander makes it kinda fun since most ramps are not lefts but rights here in the east. I left the video long to show there was NO REASON for that person to swap to the left lane except to block me. There no left turns on that highway for another 5 miles.

    I still have the rear shocks set way low in No mans land. There working but I am thinking about trying to send them back to K sport just for kicks and get them re valved.

    I still cant believe how GREAT the fronts are. They handle the spring rate perfectly even rough roads like that at decent speeds. Cant get over that.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Keep me posted on your progress with the rears. I'm looking to buy a set at some point.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    What spring rate did you get?
    K2 Pro-Circuit 2Way</br>EG/DC2/EK

    Check out these recommend spring rates...guess im not that far off!

    heres same road with the 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE and Mutltimatic DSSV shocks.

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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    I'm looking at these ksports now. The spring rates you mentioned are not the spring rates that come with them now.

    Their site list 12kg/mm (672lbs/in) front 6.7kg/mm (375lbs/in) rear.

    It looks like your initial order was
    13.5k (755lbs/ft) front and 11.5k (643lbs/in) rear
    or ?
    18k (1008lbs/in) front and 8.7k (487lbs/in) rear

    My H&R setup is
    4.7k (265 lbs/in) front and 3.0k (170 lbs/in) rear
    Progressive springs

    Looking for a daily driver. I like the ride comfort and handling of the H&Rs but i can tell the Tokico blues cant keep up with the H&R spring rates especially in the front. What should i get and i guess the first questions is can i request a different spring rate when i order them and not pay more.

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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldblueaccord View Post
    OK so now on to the bad and possible ugly.

    The kit they sent me is this.

    Ksport Adjustable Coilover Systems, Camber Kits and Suspension Products | Ksport Store

    Not sure why but thats what they sent.....18k front 8.7k rear thats 1008 fl bs front 487 rear for you,like me, who lack math. Possible the rear is spring TOO soft for the valving so I am upping the spring rate. Coils are 40$ so pretty reasonable.
    I think they sent me the Aspahlt Rally version which has a much higher spring rate.

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    The 600/400 is more what you are after I think.

    Since they uses a standard size coil its very easy to get replacement rates. off the top of my head the coils are 2.5 inches ID so alot of other spring companies make them in that size.

    I wouldnt hesitate to call and ask them some questions.
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    Re: Ksport review..the good the bad and the ugly.

    Rear replacement springs they set me.






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