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Thread: B18C, B16A, or B20A, whice one??

  1. 03-18-2003, 03:14 AM #26
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    Ahhhh thanx dude
    still not clean, Still Not Clean ,STINK OF FAILURE STILL ON ME
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  2. 03-18-2003, 10:00 AM #27
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    Originally posted by Shifty
    sorry to sound stupid but whats OBD stand for ?
    By: Chet Hewitt


    History

    During the 1960's steps were taken to regulate vehicle emissions in an attempt to improve air quality. The Environmental Protection Agency was created by United States Government and the Air Resources Board was created in California. Shortly thereafter the Clean Air Act was written and all vehicles were forced to meet certain standards.

    In the 1960's a Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) valve was introduced along with a controlled combustion system. However little was improved upon until new technologies were developed in the early 1970's. This became the focus of the EPA and several important vehicle developments came shortly after. These included the catalytic converter, open loop control systems, electronic engine emissions controls, on-board diagnostics, evaporative emissions controls and exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Unleaded gasoline was also introduced in an effort to make exhaust fumes less toxic. By the 1980's three-way catalytic converters were introduced and catalytic converter applications became standard on most vehicles. Car companies also began using electronic engine emissions controls in an attempt to make their vehicles more environmentally friendly and more appealing to US consumers. California led the way in requiring OBD systems and in 1992 Honda's vehicles were all OBD 1 compliant. In 1995 emissions standards became even tougher and in response all vehicles 1996 and up were OBD 2 compliant.



    How does this effect an engine swap?

    As described above all vehicles 91 and older are OBD 0 which means they have the fewest emissions standards and most noticeably have no oxygen sensor. This can become very important when swapping engines in cars from different generations. What is easiest and recommended is swapping engines from the same or newer generation as their vehicle counterpart. Also, its important to remember that 4th Generation Honda's, 1988-1991 are OBD0. 1992-1995 are OBD 1 compliant while 96 and newer is OBD2.




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  3. 03-18-2003, 06:47 PM #28
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    wow thats a nice piece of Article Juan. Nice info.
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  4. 03-18-2003, 08:42 PM #29
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    What? No oxygen sensor? I thought we had 2, on the exhast mainfold?!?
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    Originally posted by AvgWhtMale
    What? No oxygen sensor? I thought we had 2, on the exhast mainfold?!?
    i noticed that too. i think that may be because Honda has always been ahead of their time emmissions wise.
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    Originally posted by OldSchoolSwap


    and most noticeably have no oxygen sensor.


    Meaning some as in "older" may not have O2 sensors. Our gens were pretty advanced cars for the year.
    So yeah, Honda had they're shit together i guess.
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  7. 04-16-2003, 06:32 PM #32
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    I might be making this swap within a couple of months depending on $$. But I have friend who belives he has a B18C sitting in this junkyard he works at. He said that I also could get it everything out of the car and I need for a great price at $0000.00. I'm going to check it out tomorrow to see if it is truley a B18C.
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  8. 04-16-2003, 06:40 PM #33
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    well be prepared to spend atleast $2K as u know for the mounts and wiring adapters.
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  9. 04-16-2003, 08:21 PM #34
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    Yea that is kind of what I thought. I just need to know exactely what I need to install the engine and tranny and have it running. I can take care of the engine it is just everything else that need to be done.
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  10. 04-17-2003, 05:07 AM #35
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    Originally posted by Justin86
    Yea that is kind of what I thought. I just need to know exactely what I need to install the engine and tranny and have it running. I can take care of the engine it is just everything else that need to be done.
    Well, here's the link on PlaceRacing stuff that you will need for your swap..... https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16722

    Here is PlaceRacing's flyer with their prices.... http://www.moonscryer.org/placeracing.pdf
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  11. 04-17-2003, 05:14 AM #36
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    Juan, why do people keep saying that their engine mount and harness cost 1600 bucks when the price of em is just under a 1000 bucks? Are they meaning everything they got from placeracing or are they just sayin it?
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  12. 04-17-2003, 06:42 AM #37
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    I have no clue, maybe they should go back to school for math classes
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  13. 04-17-2003, 01:01 PM #38
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    how much did u spend on ur harness and mounts?
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    Originally posted by smufguy
    Juan, why do people keep saying that their engine mount and harness cost 1600 bucks when the price of em is just under a 1000 bucks? Are they meaning everything they got from placeracing or are they just sayin it?
    Not quite 1600, but where do u get 1k?
    B Series Mounts= 637.55
    Axles x 2= 357.00
    linkage Core= 153.70
    Wire Harness= 310.00 ( Note: Wire Harness .. They wont make u an obd1 or 0bd2 harness. )
    Grand Total 1458.25 not including shipping... This is PlaceRacing's Price..The better deal is Racing Impulse....plus get the pleasure of not dealing with Place Racings' rude customer service..
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    Originally posted by smufguy
    how much did u spend on ur harness and mounts?
    Lets see.....
    I had to pay more than what i am selling it now because i didn't have a company and knew nobody, so here it goes...

    Harness $300 plus shipping
    Mounts $618 plus shipping

    This shop gave me a so called discount because i bought both at the same time.

    So lets see, $300+$618 = $1600 :lol
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    Dats only 918...
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    Yea my friend is an idiot. He thought it was a 94 Integra with a VTEC head. Today he said it is a 93 Integra meaning no VTEC.
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  18. 04-17-2003, 08:14 PM #43
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    :lol mat :lol ur sooo oblivious. hahahahaha, ur funny man. :lol
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    well, its up to you and the cash flow to decide now
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    Originally posted by smufguy
    :lol mat :lol ur sooo oblivious. hahahahaha, ur funny man. :lol
    Who's "mat"?
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    not you juan
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    Originally posted by OldSchoolSwap
    Who's "mat"?
    it's not mat, it's Matt, you know, <><S>KCV<SAD?>?>V-whatever.
    -Grant. I'm just a pirate chasing booty.
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    its how i say it mat = matt grant hahahahah
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    Yea I gave my friend a munch of crap for getting my hopes up. Well I just got to keep looking and hope to find a good deal for a B18C somewhere.
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  25. 04-18-2003, 01:42 PM #50
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    how much would a b20a cost?
    just curious?
    i found a place that has them at a pretty good price..
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