I just ordered my coilovers!!!

[cars7945]

I just ordered dropzone coilovers. Are they the best ones to get for our cars?????

[AZmike]

The consensus seems to be that Ground Control coilovers are the best. Not that there's anything wrong with dropzone's, it's just that they have extremely stiff springs. I hope you're planning to get some diferent struts to install at the same time. Stock struts with springs that stiff and your car will bounce over every bump.

Read this:
https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11093
and this:
https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7856
to learn more

[cars7945]

what if i dont install new struts right away??? and what kind of struts should i get????

[88accordlxi]

tokico gas all the way

[bobafett]

Originally posted by 88accordlxi
tokico gas all the way

negative captain. and jim + many other members on here will back me up.

you need MUCH stiffer struts to run those....

it is recomended that you get even the konis revalved to be stiffer to run ground controls spring rates, which are softer than other coilovers. with OEM struts prepare to blow them out right away, and have a terribly floaty and bouncy ride.

to do it right will cost you another $500 AT LEAST sorry...

[crwa]

Koni struts would be the best. I've had mine for quite a while and have never had any problems with them, plus they make the suspension really stiff, but I have lowering springs not coilovers, but they are def. the best to get.

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Originally posted by 88accordlxi
tokico gas all the way

:lol :lol :lol Now that was funny, they don't offer Illuminas for our cars

Tokico H.P.'s can't even handle the softest lowering springs they make for the 3rd gen accord. How could they possibly begine to handle one of the stiffest springs, well point of fact,.........they can't. Frankly they should not be used on any lowered car period. They are High Performance on STOCK suspensions only.

Below is from my FAQ sticky post.


All lowering springs and all coilovers are stiffer. You need to install struts that are likewise stiffer. The struts need to control the stiffer spirng, get it wrong you you'll have bounce, excess brake dive during braking, you'll have less responsiveness for emergency lane changes and your car will rock the rear suspension (dip) with every gear change on a manuel equipped car. Plus they the pavement get ruff the strut will not be able to control the spring/tire and you'll lose grip, that includes hitting a bump mid corner

Tokico H.P.'s and Bilstein H.D.'s do not have the needed stiffness for duty with lowering springs, they are ONLY SLIGHTLY stiffer than stock. The are only Hi Performance or Heavy Duty with a car running stock springs. DO NOT use the in the front of a lowered car. (Keep in mind that the Bilstein's can be used with stiffer springs when they are revalved.) Kyb GR-2's are not valved stiffer than stock. They are OEM replacement struts and also should only be used with car's with stock springs.

The tokico's (or the Bilstein's for that matter) can be used in the rear with lowering springs. I would not use them in the rear with rear springs stiffer than 250 or 240.

The Koni's do have the stiffness to control all but the really stiff coilovers that are avaliable. They are the strut of choice. If all you car about is how you look in a lowered car and care nothing about how the car rides and drives, go ahead and get whatever strut please's you. But when you wonder why you car no longer drive's like it should, or you test drive a newer car and you wonder why your's does funny things, just remember,....I told you better.

What if your thinking about those cheap coilovers that are really stiff, stiffer than the Ground-Control coilover's? I'll tell ya right now, the ride will be stiff. For struts, even the Koni's DO NOT have the stiffness to ride and drive right with those stiffer coilover, like Dropzone or Skunk2's. Get revalved Bilstein H.D.'s or revalved Koni's for those coilovers. I can't stress how important is is to do this with coilovers that stiff.

[cars7945]

How long will my factory struts last if i just lowerethe car 2" on the coilovers????? I want to get new struts but dont have alot of money right now. What are the cheapest ones to get that will ride better than factory ones but not as good as expensive ones?????????

[markmdz89hatch]

Originally posted by cars7945
How long will my factory struts last if i just lowerethe car 2" on the coilovers????? I want to get new struts but dont have alot of money right now. What are the cheapest ones to get that will ride better than factory ones but not as good as expensive ones?????????

That's kind of a difficult question to answer b/c you really do get what you pay for. ..and unfortunatly, there's not really a "cheap" alternative to the correct strut. See basically when you hear stiff spring rate, that pertains to just how hard it is to compress the spring, and with a spring that's hard to compress, once it is compressed it's got to rebound. ..and with a "stiffer" spring, the rebound happens at a greater force then with a spring not as stiff. Now controlling that "rebound" is what the strut is responsible for.

Think of it like this, go get two of your friends, both let's say 3 times stronger then you, now stand up, put your arms out, and hold your arms to your side. Now have each friend grab a hand and try to pull your arms straight. If they're 3 times as strong, they'll do that without any problem, and leave you feeling a little uncomfortable to say the least. Now let's double your strength and use those same friends. So where do we stand now? Well, you're still not as strong, but you're 2/3's as strong as them so that helps right? Let's see. Now do the same activity. The result? The same, and are you still left feeling like crap? Yup.

Think of yourself as the strut in that situation, and your friends as the spring. Until you're as strong of stronger then them, you're just gonna get the snot beat out of ya'.

Realistically, if you wanted to get Koni's I'd say that you should do that only temporarily b/c any prolonged use on them will just lead to their untimely death. If you would rather save up for the cash to do it right, then you're no worse off using the stock crappy struts with these coilovers until you get the good stuff. Now I know you want to put 'em on right away, but it's really best to wait it out and save up 'til you could do it right. But like I said, if you have to put them on now, don't waste your $ on Toki's or anything else until you get enough $$ saved up to do it right. I can't beleive I'm saying this, but for cost purposes, you're better off riding on stock struts 'til you get what's really right.

[cars7945]

My coilovers came in today. i am going to put them on this week. i am looking for some struts right now but need to come up with the money!!!!!

[goldyaccord]

I agree with DXhatch.... You need to save your money and get the struts later...

It's best to get koni's and then have them revalved based on the spring rates. While your at it, have them shorten the rod.

Dont buy some koni's and ride on em just wait so you can have them revalved at the same time.

I had to deal with that problem. but back then when i bought em... we as 3geez didnt know all that much about getting them revalved and such.....

SAVE SAVE SAVE.... you'll be happy you did...