How low should I go? And how?

[TeKKnoTeKK]

Ok I don't know how many of you have a knowledge in this area or what kind of feedback to expect so here goes.........Basically what it boils down to is that my car is not low enough for me Sure I put on some 2.5" sprints but I don't think they really lowered the car that much. Basically what I am trying to accomplish is to be able to get my car low as hell, but then raise it up again. I am thinking A) Coilovers....will this get the car low enough? I want it about an inch from the ground. B) Air shocks.....don't really know much about these. C) Air bags.......I have heard these add quite a bit of weight to your vehicle. A lot of my freinds have them on their trucks, and the ride seems pretty shitty, I would like to maintain a somewhat nice ride. Tighter the better I always say What do you guys think?

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Sprints lower 2.25, you wrote 2.5", no biggie. You don't think 2.25 look's lowered, man your crazy

I dunno I just don't like the Idea of going that low since you aren't running struts that are are shorter bodied. They don't make them for our cars. The koni's can be modified by Koni for $65 per sturt to make them shorter. But what might be worth while is to check the specs of tokico illumina's ment for 2nd gen teg's. If they have a shorter body and piston stroke they would work and be cheaper then shortning the Koni's. Plus they are adjustable for both rebound and compression, whereas the Koni's adjust for rebound only. Hell for that matter Koni Sports are only a little more than the Tokico illumina's.

Josh, aka Goldyaccord checked out how low he could go with his ground-control's, if I were you, I'd sent him a pm or email and talk to him about what he found out.

If you only want to do this for show than go ahead and talk to pearldrop and Tk89ac about the air ride and air bag suspension stuff, bear in mind that a spring/coil-over/performance strut is supiorior in the handling department.

[tk89acc]

I dont think you would be able to get an air Bag setup without doing some fabricating. From what Ive heard its really hard to make bags work on the front of Hondas. If you value the performance or handling of your car then dont go with and air suspension. Its nice and it serves it purpose but its only for certain people. If youve been in a bagged truck and think the ride is bad try riding in a car with cylinders and no accumulators.

[2Fast_Fiero]

Tk's Accord used to have a 2" drop with 18" rims on a 42mm offset, and I swear it is the nicecest damn Honda Accord I've seen like that, still looks killer with the Air he's floating on, I think he's the only one on here that has the lowest drop, right TK?
<Goes back to drinking his Vanilla Coke>

[pearldrop]

I think the ride with the air cylinders is great. It has a touch of floatiness on the freeway but it doesn't ride bad at all. I wouldn't ever do it if you are into performance. It handles quite similar to stock so it would be a downgrade in performance.
As far as weight is concerned it will be very, very close to stock unless you upgrade to the big compressors which you won't be doing for $800. The tank, valves and compressor probably don't weigh over 10 pounds and the cylinders themselves are lighter than the spring/strut combo.

Check into the lowboys that they sell at www.aimind.com .
They are a true coilover set up for stock ride at lower ride heights and they are pretty cheap.

[2Fast_Fiero]

Pearl, I love your car too man, could you send me some pics? I love your interior also, I'm about to do mine DARK Grey and Red

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Originally posted by pearldrop
I think the ride with the air cylinders is great. It has a touch of floatiness on the freeway but it doesn't ride bad at all. I wouldn't ever do it if you are into performance. It handles quite similar to stock so it would be a downgrade in performance.
As far as weight is concerned it will be very, very close to stock unless you upgrade to the big compressors which you won't be doing for $800. The tank, valves and compressor probably don't weigh over 10 pounds and the cylinders themselves are lighter than the spring/strut combo.

Check into the lowboys that they sell at www.aimind.com .
They are a true coilover set up for stock ride at lower ride heights and they are pretty cheap.

I called aim about those lowboys, when we first found out about them. I wouldn't buy anything from those guys if my life depended on it. And I've seen them mentioned on other forums in the past, with nothing good said about them, nothing but junk. They rode like crap and were blown in no time, stay away from aim products.

[Red88Hatch]

yeah i think AOL must of had something to do with the production of those...

[pearldrop]

I've never heard of anybody using them so it was just a suggestion.
:ego:

[TeKKnoTeKK]

Originally posted by pearldrop
I've never heard of anybody using them so it was just a suggestion.
:ego:

lol....well thanks for the suggestion bro, I do appreciate it. Anymore ideas? I noticed you mentioned the 2nd gen integra struts Jim, who was it that was using those? I think he is the man I need to speak with.

[AZmike]

So 3g's can run with 2nd generation Integra struts? It's probably not very straight forward or I probably would have heard about it before. What's the word Jim? Are they so short that you'd need a really low car to use them?

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Originally posted by pearldrop
I've never heard of anybody using them so it was just a suggestion.
:ego:

Nothing more than friends don't let their friends ride junk or throw their money away for that matter. I am here to be a part of the solution, not part of the problem.

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Originally posted by TeKKnoTeKK


lol....well thanks for the suggestion bro, I do appreciate it. Anymore ideas? I noticed you mentioned the 2nd gen integra struts Jim, who was it that was using those? I think he is the man I need to speak with.

Umm, no you don't. You'd might as well go out to your car and hold a conversation with your door handle, he is not the talking type. Read this thread to understand my attitude. No other member has ever disrespected me, like in that thread. Notice how he doen't give out info.
https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2829

Now, the thing is, we have know way of knowing what he did to make sure that the tegs piston travel requirements match up with what you have to have on the 3rd gen accord. That if it's really to long, or to short, both not good. Jack at Bilstein or Gordon at Koni need to be called to get the technical specs on both struts to see if they are TRUELY useable. On another not, you may know that the civic/teg uses a 2 bolt front strut mount, no proplem don't use the top mount off the teg, use the one you have for your car.

Because I still have not varified the above I have not talked about it much at all. But it would seam, if possible, like a resonable priced answer, for a members needs in this case.
Oh course it stands to reason that you could allso us true coilovers ment for the civic/tegs as well, but they are hecka expensive.

[TeKKnoTeKK]

well it sounds worth trying, what could I do to find out if they would fit tho short of buying them, trying them out, and finding out they won't? I just don't wanna waste money, I wish that dude would have been more specific.

[Grant2k]

from what i know about air shocks, whick probably isn't enough to give my opinion, they are made more for keeping your car from sagging under a heavy load.

[dXsquared]

i just bought some LOW BOYZ. they will be here in 2 weeks. what do i do if they blow when i use them? can i bring them back? ummm... what cars did u hear about them blowing? if they do fuck up ill get my moneyback. if they say no ill sue them or sumthin! n e way... ill post a ride quality thread after i get them on.
Travis

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Originally posted by DXHATCHBACK
i just bought some LOW BOYZ. they will be here in 2 weeks. what do i do if they blow when i use them? can i bring them back? ummm... what cars did u hear about them blowing? if they do fuck up ill get my moneyback. if they say no ill sue them or sumthin! n e way... ill post a ride quality thread after i get them on.
Travis

But you've painted yourself in a corner by saying you'll sell them to another member is you don't like them. How can you give a bad report about them, Bad review's don't sell things. And I see lot's of people that try and tell me that their brand X struts don't bounce with lowering springs, when I know full well that's not possible. Then when they get tired of how they ride they finally admit they bounce and are disapointing in how they ride and drive. Giving opinion's on a strut is only worthwhile if you know what is good and what is bad with strut performance and you are willing to admit when something isn't right. I see way to many people here that don't want to admit it or just flat out don't know something's wrong. It seem's to be a acceptable way of life. Not with me, I won't tolerate anything that would not make it on a PRODUCTION vehicle. As an example the way my standard Bilstein H.D.'s rode and drove would get a Honda suspension engineer FIRED if they made it to the showroom floors with them on the car. After I had them revalved they were even better than the Koni's.

BTW, Doestch make's full bodied coilover for our car's. But you don't want them. I had a pair of their struts in the rear of my car when I first lowered it. Those struts blew in only 3K miles!!!
And most my miles are on the freeway, so it's not like they spent their short life in the bumpy city.

Normally when I come up on something at another forum I bookmark it. But I didn't do that with the aim threads, I wasn't something that I thought would every be discussed here so I didn't bother. I tried to do the same search I usually do to find stuff out and nothing came up with "aim" or "lowboyz coilover". The thread's I saw must have been archived, as they were from about a year ago. What I did find were people asking if anyone else was using them.

[IWLSF]

I chopped mine, but if I could do it again, I'd buy Sprint 2.25". I remember a loooooooong time ago, when I would just only read and not post here, I saw someone's car with the Sprints, and I was like "dammmmn, that's 2.25"?????" I swear, I had like 5 inches of wheel gap before I dropped, and this guy's car had like NO wheel gap with only a 2.25" drop!! I dont understand to this day ::shakes head::