It,s not hard to H 22 in a 3 gen

[Ron Davi,s]

Its not that hard , it all depends on how far are you willing to go and what $$$$$ youre willing to spend , YES i agree its no BOLT ON but its not like droping in a v6 neither , its realy hard if you dont know how to do jack s....! or if you pay a nother it will cost you more than the cars worht!! .

It becomes very expensive if you want to keep the air conditioner because you wuld have to custom make all the racks for p/s , air conditioner , alternator etcc.....

Trust me i did a 88 crx and i spend $3,500.00 on everything from buying the engine to installing it and fiting it in the car along wiht a nother bunch of parts..



Im going to try to get the pictures off before and after i know i have them some were in my shop.

[wickedaccord]

u cant compare a crx to our cars.. especially when they have mount kits for the crx

jon

[Blue Impact]

Originally posted by wickedaccord
u cant compare a crx to our cars.. especially when they have mount kits for the crx

jon

Well said, Jon, well said.

[Zero]

Fact is, most stuff out there is for tuning Civics and CRX's. Barely anyone makes anything for Accords. There are kits out there for putting h22's into Civics and CRX's.... maybe not alot of kits, but they do exist.

Aside from bolt on stuff (even though there is a factory V6 available that I think a few of us would like to modify and drop into our Accords), there is not alot of stuff out there.

And, as I imagine we all have learned, asking Honda to give us any insight on parts interchangability is a waste of time. I had a service guy tell me the other day that he thinks the computers between the 90-93 cars and the 94-97 cars mount in different locations. Let him tell it, the 94-97 ECU is mounted on the drivers side of the car... priceless huh?

[rick_spiff]

Bah, ignore those posers.

Real Men fabricate their own cars from scratch, chew on axle grease and 10mm nuts for breakfast and can re-jet a '53 Chevy carb with a toothpick.

In all seriousness, there are numerous similarities (yay!) and numerous differences (nooo!) between the 3G and 4G Accords.

Getting VTEC power into a 3G is probably easiest with B18/16. Tons of options, plus bolt-in kits available for moderate amounts of $$.

But we just can't leave well enough alone. the 4G boys got their H22 fix, but what about us? Our cars are lighter! Their... uh... cooler!

But an H22A in a 3G? Be prepared to REALLY learn how a car works if you attempt this. This thing is a monster. Totally new electronics, more modern fuel injection, dramatically different engine mounts, different axles, huge transmission, etc. Furthermore, no mounts kits. None at all.

Why not? You ask...

BECAUSE of the Civic/CRX. The CRX is even lighter and cheaper. It's the perfect drag car shell. Mega mods aren't a problem if you're doing a complete teardown and rebuild anyway. People just don't that with 3G Accords. It's just not economical. But damn, 200 HP / 166 tq in a 2500lb car?

It is POSSIBLE...

To other naysayers, BITE ME!

Mock up a pair of frankenaxles and build 4 custom engine mounts, then re-wire about %80 of your vehicle. Poof, 'easy' H22A power!

Just a rant from the 1 guy who's actually doing this swap.

[Zero]

Never said it could not be done, just that it is not an easy swap cause no one makes any kits to help facilitate the change.

No one makes a big block Ford kit for a Pinto either, but I have seen plenty heavy iron Pinto's picking up the front tires at Englishtown.

[blazin3gen]

dude is this the same person all of a sudden both of u start talking about h22 swaps wtf

[Ron Davi,s]

Well im sorry that there are some persons that think that way , but has any of YOU Ever had a crx and a 3gen accord sitting next to one another????
i realy dont think sou !!!!!!!

Lets make my point a bit mora clear i personaly messured boht cers engine bay and there the same thing .

Guy,s I work on this every day its how i pay my university wich its not CHEAP !!!!!

And for those who say that its not Cheap its because youre paying some one else to do it for you !......

P.S. my first car wich i still owne is a 1968 camaro wiht a 454 big block and a 8-71 b&m supercharger im in the Flat 9.0001 sec.

But still i know my 3gen accord has nothing to envey my 68 camaro.

I bet that half of you complaining out there have never spent a whole summer changing parts fronm youre 3gen in to other cars just to see if they fit in youre car , well i have and i have a very good list fronm mazda to acuras and civics from 1988 @ 1999.

[Ron Davi,s]

JUST ASKIN I THOAT THAT YOU GUY,S OVER THERE HADE MORE RESORSES OVERTHER!!!

imean moer junk yard,s etc... I realy dont have many junk yards that i can relay on , wich mean's yeap you guest it ihave to buy thing to experiment with them .

Let me fill you in in a cuple of hint's i custom make all the engine mounts for h22 in crx from suspencion bars fron late fords truck's lifetime warrante.

the moust dificult part's to make are the axel's wich you wuold have to buy integras and civic 4 door , sou that you can make one out of two .

Sou you see its not that hard , but then again i realy like to take on strange proyects .

[blazin3gen]

Learn how to spell and all power to ya aint nobody stoping u of doing anythin

[wickedaccord]

Originally posted by blazin2gen
Learn how to spell and all power to ya aint nobody stoping u of doing anythin

SERIOUS! aint nobody stopping u from doing anything. the point (and it has been pointed out before) is that by the time ur done doing an actual h22 swap. it could cost as much as to jus have a built GSR motor than a stock h22. sure! it's an awesome engine, but until u actually get it done. then come back here and repost a new thread about ur successful swap. im not talkin shit.. but ive been here TOO long (since the first 3geez board ever) to never say anything until now. in other words, im tired of seeing useless post about I CAN DO A H22 and IT'S NOT HARD TO DO.... JUS! get it done and ull be respected. otherwise, stop talking about how OH I CAN DO THIS and IT'S POSSIBLE and OUR CARS R SIMILIAR TO CRX'S cuz if it's sooo similiar to crx's.. and knowing how long this 3geez board has been around.. i wonder y the truely dedicated 3geez guys such as myself (which i can name others) havent figured this out yet?? becuz! it cant be done. even now im trying to use 90-93 integra suspension jus so i can use urethane bushings. atleast the integra is a closer match than a crx, that's for sure.
PEACE

jon

[Ron Davi,s]

YOU ARE ALL CORECT , I CANT SPELL GOOD BUT INGLISH IS NOT MY FIRST WRITEN OR SPOKEN LAGUAGE . I KNOW IM OUT OF PRACTICE YOU DONT HAVE TO POINT IT OUT TO ME THANK YOU !!!!

AND IF THIS TOPIC PISSES YOU OFF THEN DONT READ IT , WICH YOU BY THE LOOKS HAVENT , BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU ALL IN THIS FORUM IS THAT I AM FINISHING MY 3GEN WITH A H22 IN IT ...

NEVER THOAT THAT SOME PEOPLE CUOLD SAY THAT THER BIG FAN AND TURNE OUT TO BE A TOTALL WASTE OF TIME !!


HOO AND BY THE WAY URETHANE BUSHING FROM 88 CIVIC MIX WIHT 89@88 CRX WILL FIT YOU STOCK SUSPENSION

DOM !!! DOM !!!!!

[ghost_ny]

puerto rico, oooohhhhhhhhh

[blazin3gen]

O Puerto rico whhhatt o puerto rico Whhhat! lol

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Originally posted by Ron Davi,s

AND IF THIS TOPIC PISSES YOU OFF THEN DONT READ IT , WICH YOU BY THE LOOKS HAVENT , BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU ALL IN THIS FORUM IS THAT I AM FINISHING MY 3GEN WITH A H22 IN IT ...

Don't read it, ut uh nice try. You are the one that hasn't read all the other H22 posts. If you had, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Become a expert on why we say what we say on the H22 for the 3rd gen and I gurantee you won't have so much attitude.

We have a better idea, please don't post anymore until you have done what you claim your so great at. Then you will be doing more than flapping you lips to these people. We are tired of people like you talking like this, compleat that you claim or shut up till you do. Simple as that.

[toastyghost]

hm i'm not sure which is more annoying, people who have no punctuation or people who have PUNCTUATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR FUCKING WORDS. and if you'll please take note, i just said fuck. since the mods apparently support the 1st amendment, i may also at my leisure choose to say shit or cunt or anything i choose. therefore when someone says "jack s..." or some other such bull SHIT then i get a little peeved. i can understand people for their own moral reasons or whatever not wanting to say cuss words at all and i can perfectly understand people that talk like a fucking sailor such as myself, but exercising the discretion of the latter while still not quite making it over the threshold from the former is JUST FUCKING DUMB. if you're going to swear, pls by all means FUCKING SWEAR. don't IMPLY swearing, then you just look like a moron.

[anchovies]

Just take some pictures and post it here.

[Blue Impact]

Ron, I think it's best if you listen to wickedaccord. Unfortunately, you haven't been here long enough to know that he had done the H22 swap. Need I say more?

[Ron Davi,s]

Thank's alot for the info toastyghost!!

Now i can expres my self like i shuld ..

To all you sorry fucking idiots out there what i wanted to say in this fuking post was that its going to cost you preaty much the same to throu in a B series or an H one you fukups!!!

you just have to do things youre self and be more creative you bunch of dick's!!!!!!!!

I spent around $ 3,000 buying engine trany 2 compiuters heder and big injectors and you dont have to wreck the car like much of you say ...

That being sayd , I havent tested the car because im making it 4WS and big disck brakes from brembo .

hope to see you all in the Freeway some day just sou that i can play wiht you all .

P.S. may be you will sinse im living now in Florida!!! you asshoollssss!!!!

[Ron Davi,s]

To wickedaccord , I REspect you and yes i know i havent ben here a long time and thats way im not pointing out to no one , there for who are to point me out , its my reserch and its what i found out its for you to find out if im wrong wich im not.

THANK YOU!!

AND to blazin2gen

ARE you always the same pric?? sorry imean ASSHOL!!! Dick head !!!

[blazin3gen]

Originally posted by Ron Davi,s


AND to blazin2gen

ARE you always the same pric?? sorry imean ASSHOL!!! Dick head !!!

am i always the same PRIC? Yea :lol call me what u want i aint gonna get hurt by what u say, i could careless what u say about me. here i'll help u out:

FUCKEN DICK FACE BITCH
RETARD
*ASSHOLE
STUPID ASS
FUCKEN POOR EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING.. I like this one the best :LOL



No hard feelings :lol

[Ron Davi,s]

FUCKEN POOR EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING.. I like this one the best :LOL

You are right it sounds good ; lol



No hard feelings , you are right I realy didnt mean to make you feel bad in any way this is just one big fuck up and mostly because of my very bad writhing

im realy sorry man !! like you say'd no hard feelings..

:pimp: :smokin:

[wickedaccord]

i know it can be done, especially since hassport has a conversion kit for hydro to cable tranny. even now im looking into letting a shop (JPR) do an h22 typeS. since i can get the complete motor for 2300..

dont forget to post pics..,

jon

[Ron Davi,s]

Nothing wuold please me more that to post you guys the pics but i dont have alot of them and im going to ha to sacan them , and i wuold have taken them with my new digital camara but before i could do that i got a bit drunk and forgot that the camara was not water prof , sou it culd take a couple of month before i can post the fotos. sorry guys but DonQ cristal rules in my hart , im to weak infront of Rum.

[blazin3gen]

yea no hard feelings i opologize for saying what i did, but i guess its good to see people putting in money on the 3geez