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    well, IMO, ABS is annoying... if you're having a problem with locking up your wheels, try stickier tires and a less agressive foot... learn to feel where the lockup point is and you won't need ABS...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky
    learn to feel where the lockup point is and you won't need ABS...
    Lockup point and my abbility to feel it depends on road conditions, weather, what shoes I'm wearing... I'd much rather rely on a dependable ABS system then my feel. No way can an anti-lock system be outperformed by a comparable regular system.

    BTW, this thread would confirm that Legend calipers can be used on 88-89 LXi/SEi knuckles:

    https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?...ghlight=legend

    This thread would fit right in too:

    https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=34374
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    very true, but ABS systems are very complicated... i'm sure you can make it work, but don't be surprised if it would cost 50 times more than a car with ABS...

    the most of us here aren't worried about ABS, that's why it's never talked about...

    and if you want ABS for a 3gee, import a 3gee parts car that was equipped with the ALB system... no matter which way you go with ABS, you need a parts car to work with...

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    My old 3g Accord had ALB, and I dont think you would want to start swapping the ALB system from one car to another..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky
    ...no matter which way you go with ABS, you need a parts car to work with...
    I have a 91 Legend coupe I could use for parts, so one more reason for me to prefer ALB over big rotors.

    How about rear spindles all together with rotors from another car instead of the rare SEi? This thread https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?...ghlight=legend makes note of a bunch of cars with supposedly all the same brakes. "90-93 INTEGRA, 86-90 LEGEND, 89 ACCORD COUPE SEI, 88-89 ACCORD SEDAN LXI/SEI,90-93 CIVIC EX, 88-91 PRELUDE SE/SI cars have the same brakes"

    Would rear spindle of any of those cars fit? Spindle and upper/lower arms? Prelude maybe? Manufacturers all standardize parts across platforms to minimize manufacturing cost so I wouldn't be surprised. I have universal 4 lug wheels, so to me personally that isn't an issue and I'd switch to 5 lug too if I can get ALB.

    What this thread is talking about: 4th gen suspension parts measure almost identical
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    well hell, since you have the legend parts car, go for that...

    the reason we haven't confirmed the rear brakes spindle is because we are all on tight budgets, and buying spindles isn't cheap... if one of us had a good bit of time and access to a junkyard, we could do it there, but working in a junkyard is usually pretty miserable...

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    Im in Knoxville if you every need anything. I dont have many parts but we can make a run to Evans sometime and pickup what we need.

    I also have access to a Bridgeport mill and a lathe if needed.

    I always called our rotors 10.3"

    Summit Racing used to sell ABS type things for older brake systems. It went inline after the MC they were maybe $150 or so a side. It was somekinda mechanical device that would pulse the brakes. Been a while ince I seen it in there cat. you can call them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky
    well, IMO, ABS is annoying... if you're having a problem with locking up your wheels, try stickier tires and a less agressive foot... learn to feel where the lockup point is and you won't need ABS...

    amen.

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    Why do these threads suddenly die?

    I was just about to find the info I am desperately searching this site for and the thread ends. Can rear disc brakes from any preludes swap to the 3g? And.....what is the advantage of the Lude suspension parts over the accord. I have access to a few ludes that are pretty intact, can I get some input on what I should/can swap into my 88 LX-i?

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    https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=40346

    this is kinda the to be continued or part II thread. Struggle and I have been PM'n each other and are slowly working on something front brake wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by accord-ing to me
    I was just about to find the info I am desperately searching this site for and the thread ends. Can rear disc brakes from any preludes swap to the 3g? And.....what is the advantage of the Lude suspension parts over the accord. I have access to a few ludes that are pretty intact, can I get some input on what I should/can swap into my 88 LX-i?

    Try looking at the 88-89 Acura Legend rear suspension. Those cars share the same front calipers and the rear looks exactly like th 89 sei rear setup. I havent tried it myself but I'm pretty sure that if the rear legend hub bolts on to the Accord you'll have larger rear rotors and calipers than the sei, which is always a plus. Only problem is the Legend doesnt use a 4x100 bolt patern.

    The 86-87 Legend rear suspension is completely different so dont bother loking at those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guaynabo89
    Try looking at the 88-89 Acura Legend rear suspension. Those cars share the same front calipers and the rear looks exactly like th 89 sei rear setup. I havent tried it myself but I'm pretty sure that if the rear legend hub bolts on to the Accord you'll have larger rear rotors and calipers than the sei, which is always a plus. Only problem is the Legend doesnt use a 4x100 bolt patern.

    The 86-87 Legend rear suspension is completely different so dont bother loking at those.

    so is it possible to use 88-89 legend knuckle assemblies all around and be able to have the bigger brakes and have 5 lug wheels? i also think it would make the stance wider an inch or two and would have fender clearance problems for the wheels without going widebody. i would try it out for myself and see, but i already did a SEi disc brake swap and that should be satisfactory for now. only bad thing is i noticed much more weight put on the car and is affecting performance a bit. bigger rotors and knuckles mean more weight. but if you really want a bigger brake upgrade, that's something you have to sacrifice. i still wouldn't mind slapping on a 88-89 legend brake setup and put some nice 5 lug rims on, but i would work on making this car go fast first instead of working on making go slower/stop faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICEMAN707
    so is it possible to use 88-89 legend knuckle assemblies all around and be able to have the bigger brakes and have 5 lug wheels? i also think it would make the stance wider an inch or two and would have fender clearance problems for the wheels without going widebody. i would try it out for myself and see, but i already did a SEi disc brake swap and that should be satisfactory for now. only bad thing is i noticed much more weight put on the car and is affecting performance a bit. bigger rotors and knuckles mean more weight. but if you really want a bigger brake upgrade, that's something you have to sacrifice. i still wouldn't mind slapping on a 88-89 legend brake setup and put some nice 5 lug rims on, but i would work on making this car go fast first instead of working on making go slower/stop faster.

    Yeah i think a 1 pound on the wheel is like worth 4 on the chassis. Thats why light rims are such a big deal.


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    Also, we can use the 4gen prelude vtec "280mm" calipers and rotors if we redrill the rotors!

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