CAI quality issues

[edgar]

Hey Im new to the board and this is my first post. To be fair I have two questions. First I am looking to invest in a CAI for my 1989 accord lxi and is any of the off brands worth anything or am I better off going AEM. Also an apperance question does anyone have an aluminum wing on their 3g want to see what that would look like.

[1988starter]

No one makes a CAI for our cars I custom made mine from a 90 teg one also a 94 accord one is soposto work. Both require some modification. Use a K&N filter not some APC crap if you want better flow. Second if you put a huge ass allumn. Church Pew On you car I may have to kill you because it looks damn stupid on every car.
DAMN fast and furious killing the minds of our youth grumble

[Justin86]

Originally posted by 1988starter

DAMN fast and furious killing the minds of our youth grumble

Yea it pisses be off too. Also you can get a 92 Civic intake and just cut off 3in off it at the throttle body. Welcome to the board.

[edgar]

Thanks for replys I knew I would have to build a CAI myself so I guess Ill just start cruising ebay for a K&N. As for the aluminum tail the huge ones do look like crap on just about everything but I have seen some smaller conservative ones that looked ok but anyways last night I found a style I liked from a small local company its almost like the stock spoiler for the car but slighty arced. Now all I need now is the LED muffler tip and some neons...JK

[neoblue89lxi]

Hey edgar where in jax do you live? I live in Mandarin and if you need help putting in the cai ill show you. I bought a 3 inch diameter cai for a 94-97 accord and did some custom work to it. It works great and sounds better. When you turn the car off at the last second you can hear suction from the front bumper. Ebay intake was only 40 plus where you have to cut the intake to work in our cars is the perfect place to put a bypass valve.

[NXRacer]

or you can make your own

[Justin86]

Yea you can make your own but I would just buy one. It can ba a pain in the ass to get all the parts you need and want. It will cost you the same to buy an ebay one and put on a K&N filter then making it yourself.

[Dibbs]

I know you can get those APC tubes for 92-95 civics at autozone for like $30 then just add a K&N on the end of it for another $30.

[meangreenLXi]

here's thread about the 3g's with a wing enhancement https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18137

[meangreenLXi]

even though they look stupid on the car, some people think they are okay. Have a look at some pics of the 3g's representin the wing formation.

[Cyric_accord]

Ok, I thought we still had this pic up on our old site... hope it works, never linked a pic from teh site


whoops, wrong pic


Theres a pic of a wing on a 3g

EDIT: Hmm, I look at it some more... might be a 4g.. i wasn't at this meet, so i wouldn't know for sure.

[1988starter]

Damn thats mad ugly I like my wing better

[Justin86]

Yea that is a 4g but the untrained eye couldn't tell. Is that a hampster in her shirt or I'am dreaming.

[Cyric_accord]

Yeah, when I first looked at the pic, i thought "Sweet, another 3rd gen" cause a quik glance looked exactly the same but then I saw the "Accord" emblem on the bottom of the trunk and not the upper right.

Heh, no hamster... but a coke can nestled in there bigger pic at http://drayon.com/pic/displayimage.php?album=17&pos=25

[johnwc723]

definetly a 4gee aluminimum wings are ugly as hell and do NOTHING!

[3G Jester]

honestly AEM brags about having the best shit but really.....what is the purpose of a CAI?

to get cold air from the ground up through BIGGER piping into the engine. any CAI does it really as long as its big enough piping and as long as it has a high flow filter. AEM just has the numbers to back it up. and if there is a difference its not really all the big.

[1988starter]

Originally posted by 3g Jester
honestly AEM brags about having the best shit but really.....what is the purpose of a CAI?

to get cold air from the ground up through BIGGER piping into the engine. any CAI does it really as long as its big enough piping and as long as it has a high flow filter. AEM just has the numbers to back it up. and if there is a difference its not really all the big.

Actually AEM spends a lot of money testing different size piping and bend angles to get max air velocity and often there pipes are slightly smaller in diamaeter than cheap ebay knockoffs. Not to mention they use highquality K&N filters.

[k-roy]

Originally posted by johnwc723
definetly a 4gee aluminimum wings are ugly as hell and do NOTHING!

Yes wings do do something. Have you ever heard of downforce? But you are right, they are ugly as hell.
I saw a Suzuki Esteem with a giant wing and a fart tip a few weeks ago. I was laughing my ass of. The guy got out of his car like he wanted to fight or something. Then he got back in and started to rev like crazy. I smoked his ass right off the line. Funny shit.

[3G Jester]

Originally posted by 1988starter
Actually AEM spends a lot of money testing different size piping and bend angles to get max air velocity and often there pipes are slightly smaller in diamaeter than cheap ebay knockoffs. Not to mention they use highquality K&N filters.

im just talking about hp gains for your average street tuner. unless your trying to knock off .3 seconds from your 1/4 mile time.....it really doesnt matter much. whatever gets the air there works. plus you WILL notice the difference in cai's when you have the WHOLE exhaust, and modified engine components and all that crap. like i said. doesnt matter much for the average street tuner.

[1988starter]

Originally posted by kroy
Yes wings do do something. Have you ever heard of downforce? But you are right, they are ugly as hell.
I saw a Suzuki Esteem with a giant wing and a fart tip a few weeks ago. I was laughing my ass of. The guy got out of his car like he wanted to fight or something. Then he got back in and started to rev like crazy. I smoked his ass right off the line. Funny shit.

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It probably does do nothing. People get paid a lot of money to figure out precise hight and angle measurements on wings for downforce. So mostlikely if you add an allumn wing you will not have it at the proper angle and height for the wind comming over the roof to hit it and provide downforce. With my fairly extensive Physics and math backround I would guess the way to figureout the proper height would be a 4 part intergral consisting of height Theta Velocity and rate of acceleration. It would probably be so complex a program like mathematica would need to be used to solve it forthe best results. Otherwise all it would probably do is act as an air dam. But what ever I am just a third year engineering student.

[3G Jester]

DOWNFORCE CREATED BY WINGS PUSHES THE REAR END OF A CAR DOWN. this is important FOR RWD cars. on FWD cars it does JACK SHIT. a little wing might help. but those fucking wings on F&F and 2F2F and on those rice mobiles maybe light weight aluminum but its still weight that doesnt need to be there and creates drag.

[Justin86]

Well on a stock car a CAI will not give you big gains. If you allready have some mods like full exhaust, or cam then you will see better results out of the CAI. As for Spoilers stick with a low deck, stock one with or with out LED's

[3G Jester]

holla. i love my stock wing. nice low and fits the body to the car.

[Justin86]

Originally posted by 3g Jester
holla. i love my stock wing. nice low and fits the body to the car.

And it looks good to. Any spoliler has to comploment the car. Yea the aluminum spoilers are gay 99% percent of the time but I have seen a FEW that they help accent the other parts of the car. Your car is like a mosque, there has to be a flow and one part needs to comploment another part otherwise you interupt the "creative flow".

[k-roy]

Originally posted by 3g Jester
holla. i love my stock wing. nice low and fits the body to the car.

Yes, STOCK spoilers look nice on our cars. I am looking for one, I may also go for a 80s M3 style.