Aftermarket , B16 , B18 , B18C5 Manifold + Pics + Install Advice + Dyno

[modu03]

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Installing B16 B18 Manifold

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49453

ok... people say that the b16a manifold can be adapted to fit our cars... I am looking at an aftermarket intake manifold.

what I need to know, is exactly what I need to do to the manifold to make it fit my car, and if all the vacuum lines and such will be able to be attached to this manifold.

if this helps, or is just interesting to you... here is the manifold I plan on buying:

http://www.jcw.com/webapp/wcs/stores...X&appId=455620

let me know if that link didn't work

[Johnny O]

I made a b18 intake fit on our cars,need to drill two holes.Vacunm lines need to be tapped into the manifold or t-ed off.Throttle body needs to be from that car.

[BMS]

How much does the b18 manifold add to your power/performance?

[k-roy]

Check this out, its cheaper.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2439388110
$125 buy it now. From a Civic Si B16. Cheaper and better quality.
I was talking to a guy at the Jegs store with a 5th gen Civic with a B18C1 swap (Nice ride) and he was buying a Edelbrock one because he could not stand the power plus one. The satin finish was peeling off and he wanted something of better quality so he was buying an Edelbrock one.

[2old_honda]

Originally posted by kroy
Check this out, its cheaper.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2439388110
$125 buy it now. From a Civic Si B16. Cheaper and better quality.
I was talking to a guy at the Jegs store with a 5th gen Civic with a B18C1 swap (Nice ride) and he was buying a Edelbrock one because he could not stand the power plus one. The satin finish was peeling off and he wanted something of better quality so he was buying an Edelbrock one.

Woah there! that is waaaayyyy too much for that manifold! You can get a ITR manifold for that price. I paid $35 for a b16 manifold from a '00 civic si. Most people want $40- $60.

[modu03]

Originally posted by Johnny O
I made a b18 intake fit on our cars,need to drill two holes.

really... well, what about all the vaccum hoses? did they all fit right on the b18 manifold, or did you have to modify it???

also, does our cars throttle body fit or do you have to use the b18 throttle body? any mods needed for that???

I am not good at remembering what cars the b16,b18,etc engines are in.

[k-roy]

Originally posted by 2old_honda
Woah there! that is waaaayyyy too much for that manifold! You can get a ITR manifold for that price. I paid $35 for a b16 manifold from a '00 civic si. Most people want $40- $60.

Thats a good price. Still $125 for a Honda one is better than an off brand with a crappy finish.

[MoonScryer]

JohnnyO ditched the vaccuum lines, and the whole sensor "black box". If you are not turbo'ing like he did and putting a Greddy E-manage on it (I think that is what he has), stick with your stock manifold.

[Justin86]

I think it is better to go with the B16 manifold. Don't expected it to pass emissions though. It could be possible with Seans ECU to still pass.

[mugenprelude86]

has anyone tried to mate any of the b or d series intake manifolds to the a20 head? man if we could get one of these to work, dammn i know i'd be down for an edelbrock JG series intake manifold

[Sean]

search its been discussed to death short answer yes. long answer look.

[dillirk]

since aftermarket B16 intakes fit a20s with little modification I'm guessing stock ones would too. My question is would the stock B16 intake be an improvement over ours or should I just save my pennies and get the edelbrock.

Thanks in advance

[k-roy]

I would take a OEM B16 manifold over the LXi one any day. The B16 is built to flow more air than the A20 is, so therefore the manifold should flow more.

[AZmike]

The B16 intake is built to produce torque at higher rpm than the A20 intake. Expect to trade some low-mid range torque for maximum power.

[shepherd79]

i hope you have a solution to some how block the EGR valve without producing ECU code.

[dillirk]

Sean's efi kit should fix the egr code problem.

The idea of using the b16 intake is to be able to have a bigger throttle body so the stock one doesnt choke the turbo I plan to put on.

I looked at the edelbrock b16 victor x...
not for us it has short runners that are great for high end but our motor cant turn 7-10k
I think most of the B series intakes are designed this way so if we use them we will have to realy wind our motors up to see the advantage.
the performer x has longer runners and would be great but its only made for the D16 so it wont fit the a20

since I haven't seen a stock B series intake I dont know how long the runners are. If any one has a pic or a link to one that woould be great.

[k-roy]

If any one has a pic or a link to one that woould be great.

These are kinda big, but its all I got for now. I can take some more pics and measurements next weekend if you want.

http://monolith.projectgamma.com/~kr...l/100_3955.jpg
http://monolith.projectgamma.com/~kr...l/100_3963.jpg

It has longer runners than the B16 one, but I believe it flows less air. I was tossing around the idea of throwing it on the Accord, but I am too damn lazy to do a PGMFI conversion first.

[dillirk]

Cool. Thanks Kroy.
Pics are good for now I dont need any measurements yet just trying to see whats out there as far as options we have.
What engine is that one from? the runners are pritty long and sould provide good low end if it will fit.

[k-roy]

Thats from a USDM 90 Integra LS. The engine code is B18A1 non vtec.
I don't think there would be any clearance problems on an Accord, I held it up to my engine and eyeballed it.

[Justin86]

This is the aftermarket B16 that you want to get........
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

[smufguy]

This is the aftermarket B16 that you want to get........
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

That would be a good manifold for a Turbo A20 or a built up all motor A20.

If i remember correctly, when justin had his turbo hatchie, he said that the actual lenght of the Edlebrock manifold, the one simlar to the one u posted, was smaller than that of the A20, and since they dont have secondaries, its a loss on the low end.

[Sean]

lossing low end on the a20a s really not an issue. this motor make good low end power even with a hugely ported out head. go figure. more airflow to the port will certinly help.

[dillirk]

Thanks justin, I didn't know that company existed. I was looking into building one but for that price I'll save myself the headache.

Thanks Sean, does your ecm controle N2O and boost, if not could it?

[smufguy]

lossing low end on the a20a s really not an issue. this motor make good low end power even with a hugely ported out head. go figure. more airflow to the port will certinly help.

It might not be an issue if ur on a roll, but from a standstill and a heavy ass bottom end, the car still feels like its standing still and takes forever to move. This is why a forced induction comes as a help, cause it helps it move a lil faster. shit takes forever to rev up in stock bottom end NA.

[Justin86]

that why it help to have a blocked EGR, aluminum flywheel, and aluminum pulley, that shit will rev faster then you know.