Keep VTEC, its gods gift to Honda's
Get rid of that POS emissions B.S.
4.083:1 or something like that.Originally posted by wprocomp
hey zero whats the stock rearend ratio in the 240?
Got Mid-Life Crisis?
Hurt your feelings did I?I didn't mean to do so. We don't all know as much as you!
BTW, I am only 2 years older than you (at least if your birthdate posted here is correct). I just dislike misinformed people who are hard-headed like geriatric folks.thats all...
No offense, it is all in good fun!
natsugusa ya
tsuwamono domo ga
yume no ato
I know ALL! You must really dislike yourself and I don't even recall writting my B-day Info on this.Originally posted by zero.counter
4.083:1 or something like that.
Got Mid-Life Crisis?
Hurt your feelings did I?
BTW, I am only 2 years older than you (at least if your birthdate posted here is correct). I just dislike misinformed people who are hard-headed like geriatric folks.
No offense, it is all in good fun!
I don't, so unless you have a license to practice, don't psychoanalyze my character from just a few postings. That would be pathetic and futile. Remember, this is the internet. I may be a girl or woman or even Michael Jordan. Who freakin knows? Remember the assumption post?Originally posted by 86dxAccord
I know ALL! You must really dislike yourself and I don't even recall writting my B-day Info on this.
By the way, even if the date may have defaulted your B-Day when you created your account here, it would not change the day to 6 for no reason. But then again, this is the internet. At least you can figure my age from there.
natsugusa ya
tsuwamono domo ga
yume no ato
WTF are talking about? I was only replying to your post.Originally posted by zero.counter
I don't, so unless you have a license to practice, don't psychoanalyze my character from just a few postings. That would be pathetic and futile. Remember, this is the internet. I may be a girl or woman or even Michael Jordan. Who freakin knows? Remember the assumption post?
By the way, even if the date may have defaulted your B-Day when you created your account here, it would not change the day to 6 for no reason. But then again, this is the internet. At least you can figure my age from there.
Hence, you must dislike yourself. I hope I don't get like you, when I get older.Originally posted by zero.counter
I just dislike misinformed people who are hard-headed like geriatric folks. thats all...
Hence, you must dislike yourself.
You are right about me doctor. While we are on the subject doc, I seem to be experiencing constant mood swings and the urge to spit on people. What do you think is wrong? Do you think I am presenting signs of an Anxiety Disorder?
:lol :lol :lol
I hope I don't get like you, when I get older.
Yeah, neither do I. We need more blue collar workers to keep the economy floating so they can pay thier medical expenses and insurance so I can enjoy my big salary!
Damn, I never realized being mid-twenties was old. Oh well, that what the doc said! :lol
natsugusa ya
tsuwamono domo ga
yume no ato
i dont know if this has been said before or not, but the CRV B20 does NOT come with VTEC. if you want vtec, you'll have to do a head swap with a b16/18 or KA head (for '03 CRV motors's and up)
Nothin' 2 Old Racing
97 and 98 had a non VTEC B20BOriginally posted by NXRacer
i dont know if this has been said before or not, but the CRV B20 does NOT come with VTEC. if you want vtec, you'll have to do a head swap with a b16/18 or KA head (for '03 CRV motors's and up)
99-00-01 has Vtec in the B20Z
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Dude! Both Are non-vtec engines. The B20z is the newer block with a bit more torque. Still uses a non-vtec head.Originally posted by kroy
97 and 98 had a non VTEC B20B
99-00-01 has Vtec in the B20Z
Damnit you are right. I was misinformed.
I got the info from a friend, Bojangles, who works at a Honda dealership. He told he to get a 99,00 or 01 motor because they have more power with VTEC added. He is a dumbass at times, thats a whole other story. I was also misinformed by a guy at a junkyard, probably because he wanted to sell me the motor. Its a good thing that the B20Z does not have VTEC, I don't want it anyways.
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You said in your original post that VTEC is a compromise at lower RPM? I am too lazy to actually read the whole damn thread so this may have been brought up already, but VTEC is not a compromise at low RPM. The only thing that VTEC does is to extend your power band all the way to redline, rather than having it drop off after a certain RPM level again. If you think that it is a compromise because the VTEC engines make less torque, that's wrong. The reason that VTEC engines make less torque is because of the way that the engine is made, not because of the VTEC cam or anything like that. Okay, so the cam may play a role, but what I'm trying to say is that if Honda wanted to, I doubt that it would be very hard to make the VTEC engines maintain the same torque as the non-VTEC engines. I think that the reason that they let the torque slip is because there is so much more HP that there is no real need for massive torque (in the eyes of Honda).
I give up. this is pointless. I posted this thread to have a great debate and imo it is over. I am doing to my car what I wish. If anyone does not like it they can bite my shiny metal ass.
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I am not saying anything about your car in particular, I was kinda under the impression that in a debate thread we discuss the pros and cons of a certain topic. You brought up some cons, and I am simply trying counter your argument. There is no point in having a thread called "the great VTEC debate" if you're gonna
86dxAccord you're fucking AWSOME! :lol
For those of you that knew who this guy is or was, yall get it why I said that he is fucking awsome and funny! :lol :lol too bad he owns a slow "86 DX accord!" hahahaha
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Maurice
i-VTEC>DOHC VTEC>3 Stage VTEC>SOHC VTEC>VTEC-E>NO VTEC
DOHC VTEC is better than i-VTEC, IMO.
:lolOriginally posted by BMS
DOHC VTEC is better than i-VTEC, IMO.
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Yeah, I can totally see how that's funny.
Don't worry Maurice, I know who he is. That DX is one slow ass car.
I'm not trying to take any sides but if you've seen a dyno chart of a car with VTEC, everything becomes clear. The mild cam profile reaches a peak and then starts to drop off. Then the VTEC kicks in and you can see it go back up. Raising the VTEC crossover may help fuel economy but you have to remember that you're no longer in the power band for that cam profile. The engine has to work harder to produce the same results.
edit - forgot to mention. Since a VTEC engine can rev to 8000 rpm or more, you have more time between shifts. I know this doesn't matter in everyday driving but in racing apps it does. The guy without VTEC has to shift at, say, roughly 5000 rpm. By the time you shift once, he's close to pulling a second shift. Letting off the gas to shift hurts for obvious reasons.
Last edited by SteveDX89; 12-03-2003 at 07:22 PM.
No projects. Life consumes my time and money.
wrongOriginally posted by BMS
DOHC VTEC is better than i-VTEC, IMO.
i-VTEC is the next generation of VTEC found on the new K-series. It has VTEC and VTC (variable timing control). It is a better system.
yes, i-VTEC is much better, but I still love my DOHC VTEC.
Originally posted by Morpheus
wrong
i-VTEC is the next generation of VTEC found on the new K-series. It has VTEC and VTC (variable timing control). It is a better system.
You are right. I was confusing i-VTEC for VTEC-e.
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