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    im not saying another fucking word. thats all im saying. we will se once the dyno sessions start here shortly.
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    The B-series doesnt care what car its in. If you can get the B-series into the 3gee whatever the B-series has the potential to make the 3gee will have the potential to make.

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    guys either way youre gonna be spending a shitload of money... stick with the engine that has more torque

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    no im sure a bigger engine with a longer stroke could easily make as much power and be way more streetable. Just good old fashioned common. sense. Also those be seires engine are having the shit revved out of them 9000+ rpm to make that power. yeah im sure with the current HP to TQ gain vs boost ive been getting that i can do as well or better. just have to pray the thing stay in one piece.
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    Well SEAN you don't have to say anything cause I add figure it out pretty good my self.
    Why the hell would they use a T60 I saw a H22 built up with a T/4 make 725hp
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    I'am so sick of hearing B and H series this and that.WHY dont people like the a20 what is so wrong with it.I have no clue I love it.
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    Probably because it didn't make as much power out of the box. Plus when you say, yeah I gotta Dual Overhead Cam B18C5 VTEC all aluminum block and head, you can convince yourself and any idiots around you that you know what the hell you're talking about. People want to sound and look cool, the A20 doesn't fit either in it's description. It's a strong block, but quite honestly the B-series has more potential I think than the A20. We can love the A20 all we want, but Honda has advanced, to bigger and better things, the A20 is a thing of the past to most. Everyone wants newer and better. Sorry about the rant, I'll leave now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by new_disease
    Probably because it didn't make as much power out of the box. Plus when you say, yeah I gotta Dual Overhead Cam B18C5 VTEC all aluminum block and head, you can convince yourself and any idiots around you that you know what the hell you're talking about. People want to sound and look cool, the A20 doesn't fit either in it's description. It's a strong block, but quite honestly the B-series has more potential I think than the A20. We can love the A20 all we want, but Honda has advanced, to bigger and better things, the A20 is a thing of the past to most. Everyone wants newer and better. Sorry about the rant, I'll leave now.
    yea we all know that those allum. block open deck engines are the shit for turbo

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    also with the a20 everything has to be custom made.
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    yeah well the a20a doesnt require nearly as many custom parts as it used to. Ive gotten alot of non stocking part numbers made now so it should be much much easier.
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    why do people with soooo much money dump it in a $15,000 economy car?

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    why doesnt ANYBODY but a select few actually listen to what sean is saying???? Like water off a ducks back. Oh well, the select few of us will know whats up.

    a20at > d,b,f,h series......
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    Well it will be cheaper do build up our A20 as compared to a newer and :better: engines. They may have a better selection of parts but the prices are more and you have to do more stuff to them ot get those aluminum blocks to run +20PSI
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    pretty sure it's ugly as hell, fast but ugly

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    to make that kinda power the engine needs to breathe good. but every single engine has its own charecterstics as we all very well know. Saying that A20 is greater than all the other honda blocks are pushing it a little further. For example, GIve Sean a H22 and im sure he can get power that would stagger a supra with twin turbo in its tracks. You are talking about technology and materials used 14 years back and newer engines are made fairly awsome IMO. So yeah, since we are far away from the point of the thread, I would say A20 rocks cause of its users and people who know about it. You have seen ppl blow up A20s.

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    uhh... you can pull around 1000hp on a stock supra 2JZ bottom end... dont even THINK you could pull that kinda power even with an H22

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    Displacement is no replacement for technology! It is all about what you know. If the A20 had a VTEC head it could be one of the best engines but that is all it is missing and some TLC which SEAN is working on right now.
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    you can pull that kinda power with a lot of money on a STEEL block 3.0l bored out. But there is only so far u can take the Aluminum block of a H22. BUt i was talking about the Technical mind of Sean behind the engine he builds.

    Besides, if you are a true car fanatic, you wont drool over the hp numbers and torque and displacement. If you cant lap around a track, your car aint worth shit. You can have a muscle car, you can have a nible car that can TURN. but even tho they belong to two different catergories, ppl who are car fanatics know which car is THE car when it comes to handling, driving and speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smufguy
    you can pull that kinda power with a lot of money on a STEEL block 3.0l bored out. But there is only so far u can take the Aluminum block of a H22. BUt i was talking about the Technical mind of Sean behind the engine he builds.

    Besides, if you are a true car fanatic, you wont drool over the hp numbers and torque and displacement. If you cant lap around a track, your car aint worth shit. You can have a muscle car, you can have a nible car that can TURN. but even tho they belong to two different catergories, ppl who are car fanatics know which car is THE car when it comes to handling, driving and speed.
    right on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter
    uhh... you can pull around 1000hp on a stock supra 2JZ bottom end... dont even THINK you could pull that kinda power even with an H22
    have you seen a pro honda drag car? How do you think they're doing 6 second quarter miles now? Cant do that with a couple hundred HP. And they're using 4 bangers. Not sure if its an H22 or not, but its an aluminum block 4 cyl.
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    im not gonna debate blah blah blah. i know i can make 600+ hp. and the a20a block is far superior to the other hona blocks in stock form. the only b block out there thats even questionably better is the b16 block from dart. and thats iffy at best. the only thing the a20a lacks is a good head. and i fianlly got more flow then a b18c5 head so ha. eat me now b boys !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean
    im not gonna debate blah blah blah. i know i can make 600+ hp. and the a20a block is far superior to the other hona blocks in stock form. the only b block out there thats even questionably better is the b16 block from dart. and thats iffy at best. the only thing the a20a lacks is a good head. and i fianlly got more flow then a b18c5 head so ha. eat me now b boys !
    ha ha ha that is good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean
    im not gonna debate blah blah blah. i know i can make 600+ hp. and the a20a block is far superior to the other hona blocks in stock form. the only b block out there thats even questionably better is the b16 block from dart. and thats iffy at best. the only thing the a20a lacks is a good head. and i fianlly got more flow then a b18c5 head so ha. eat me now b boys !
    Now thats what i call KISS MY A20ASS. hehehe, amazing a 12valve can whoop a 16 huh?

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    Technology can beat a lot of engines lucky for use we have that on are side.
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