With 28psi can a 3g do this?? make 608whp?

[Neuspeed87lx]

HAA HAA!
Gotta love the engine though. T60? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that one HELL of a big ass turbo for a 1.6L engine. Oh well, I guess the naawws makes up for the lag.

its not a 1.6 .... its a 2.2

[HaccordR89]

the drag car is using a b18c5 i believe..if you look at the car you'll see they kept the general look so you can tell it's still an integra. and it's pushing 4000hp and running 4's and 5's but that's sick as hell coming from a 4 banger. anyway, i was looking at doing the b16 swap and it would cost anywhere from 3-4 thousand dollars just to get the motor in your car. so you would have a b16 pushing 160hp with the stock motor. if you throw that same amount into the a20 i garuantee that you'll be pushing more than 160hp. so you might as well stick with it. they're starting to make more and more parts for the motor and if they don't make it, someone on this board probably has and could tell you how to do it custom.

[Justin86]

the drag car is using a b18c5 i believe..if you look at the car you'll see they kept the general look so you can tell it's still an integra. and it's pushing 4000hp and running 4's and 5's but that's sick as hell coming from a 4 banger. anyway, i was looking at doing the b16 swap and it would cost anywhere from 3-4 thousand dollars just to get the motor in your car. so you would have a b16 pushing 160hp with the stock motor. if you throw that same amount into the a20 i garuantee that you'll be pushing more than 160hp. so you might as well stick with it. they're starting to make more and more parts for the motor and if they don't make it, someone on this board probably has and could tell you how to do it custom.

I'm going to prevent you from getting flamed here. Were did you see this car and please tell me that when you said "it's pushing 4000hp and running 4's and 5's" you were joking cause the best 4 banger I have seen was only in the high 6's, low 7's and pushing around 1,300hp. The top fuel guys with big ass V8's are doing 4's and pushing 5,000hp.

[HaccordR89]

ok..here it is, it's in the feb 2002 turbo mag. basically, it's an integra type r with a custom norwood heat-treated billet alum. 4.5 x 4.5 inch bore and stroke block. JE 4.5in top fuel with moly coated skirts and techline CBC-II top coating pistons, Top Fuel Hemi Childs & Alber Cryo-treated cold-cycle aluminum rods. it's 4000hp @ 55psi from twin turbonetics Q-trim with ceramic ball bearing turbos. Custom Norwood/NOS multi-port computer controlled nitrous injection, runs off of nitromethane and alcohol. it has both a carbon fiber and fiberglass body, carbon fiber weighs 1444lbs and fiberglass 1515lbs. it's not an average drag car, it's top fuel, but that should be obvious to anyone who read it's stats. i don't think theyre allowed to run it though since the rules for top fuel and funny cars are so strict and haven't been changed since 2324a.d. the whole 4 cyl. twin turbo nitrous injected nitro fueled thing went against they're rules. could be wrong, but it's right there, if you can find the mag you can read allllllllll about it :cool2: thanks for trying to keep me from getting flamed though

[Justin86]

ok..here it is, it's in the feb 2002 turbo mag. basically, it's an integra type r with a custom norwood heat-treated billet alum. 4.5 x 4.5 inch bore and stroke block. JE 4.5in top fuel with moly coated skirts and techline CBC-II top coating pistons, Top Fuel Hemi Childs & Alber Cryo-treated cold-cycle aluminum rods. it's 4000hp @ 55psi from twin turbonetics Q-trim with ceramic ball bearing turbos. Custom Norwood/NOS multi-port computer controlled nitrous injection, runs off of nitromethane and alcohol. it has both a carbon fiber and fiberglass body, carbon fiber weighs 1444lbs and fiberglass 1515lbs. it's not an average drag car, it's top fuel, but that should be obvious to anyone who read it's stats. i don't think theyre allowed to run it though since the rules for top fuel and funny cars are so strict and haven't been changed since 2324a.d. the whole 4 cyl. twin turbo nitrous injected nitro fueled thing went against they're rules. could be wrong, but it's right there, if you can find the mag you can read allllllllll about it :cool2: thanks for trying to keep me from getting flamed though

yea I never read that mag so I would have never seen it. I'm supprised I haven't seen it in other mags.

[AccordEpicenter]

well i didnt say you couldnt make 1000hp on a built race honda, what i said was people are making 1000hp on BONE STOCK 2JZ bottom ends... youd never get any honda 4cyl to put out that much power with a stock bottom end much less be streetable. BTW this is NOT a supra vs Honda argument ...

[smufguy]

then dont go on arguing about it and make it sound like one :weird:

[4sillypwr]

it's not all about hp. that 1000 hp 2jz still has to hual around a mk4 supra wich is around 2800lbs. If it was only about hp we would not be bothering to build honda engines. you can easily get 500 hp out of a v8 but that sucker still has to pull a huge ass domestic car around. weight is where we win the battle. If you really want to go fast for cheap buy a 84-87 crx hf and strip it down to 1500lbs. throw a 200hp turbo d16a1 in and you are looking at low low 12s
-David

[bobafett]

hey 4sillypwr, what mods do u have on your supra? by buddy has an 87 NT and we just made a homedepot intake for it, with a cone style filter, he hasnt had a chance to test it because of snow, but that, and a straight pipe in place of the intake resonator is all we have done, do u know which mods really make a diff on the NT?

[4sillypwr]

I built a custom exhuast for it and threw on some cheap ass header. Then i blew a headgasket. Stupid fucking 7mg engines. I hope to have to money to get it running in about a month. It did make a bit of differance. It's deff louder

-David

[Justin86]

power to weight ratio and that is where we kick ass.

[smufguy]

power to weight ratio and that is where we kick ass.

and thats all it matters.

[cubert]

well i didnt say you couldnt make 1000hp on a built race honda, what i said was people are making 1000hp on BONE STOCK 2JZ bottom ends... youd never get any honda 4cyl to put out that much power with a stock bottom end much less be streetable. BTW this is NOT a supra vs Honda argument ...

to add onto this...id much rather be riding inside a supra then a honda....look at the difference in interiors...ive never ridden in a supra..but im willing to bet itd ride 203948 times smoother then a crx with a b16 or a turbo accord....im not trying to put down the 3g...but come one now....plus the supra is probably a lot more reliable....

[4sillypwr]

ok 2jz blocks are reliable and powerful. Now the mk3 supras are big fat POS. The weigh 3400lbs and have that crappy 7mg/e that blows more headgaskets than a ford taurus. The interior is not that great and it handles like poo. So......anyone want to buy mine?

-David

[cubert]

that i will give to you..lol..and just so here is no confusion..i give endless props to the owners of turbo 3gs and other cars similar...i was just trying to get my point across

[bobafett]

yeah i much prefer the interior of 3g over a mkiii supra...handling blows, and the seats are way to "slouchy" for my tastes.. i feel like i need a visor on sideways just to ride in teh car...

[smufguy]

okay this thread is becomind one of the OTHER bs threads. Totally out of our main discussion. why does it do this same thing all the time?? make a new thread in the offtopic and talk about your taste in supra VS 3g.

last talk: Also other thing is, yeah supra is awsome but for that price, gas, performance, ride comfort, daily use. I am sure a lot of people would prefer a performance adaptable and yet economic and useful 3g or any honda for that money. and NOt to mention the 7th gen accord V6. Get the one in 6spd and swear to god, you will be squealing your tires in all god damn gears. When it does 14 secs stock with 0-60s in 6.9s, you know Honda aint kidding around. and look at the new TL, Its a Silent killer than i would get in a heart beat.

Well, i am done for this thread anyway. Im out

[1988starter]

not to be picky but do the 7th justice 0-60 6.2 1/4 mile 14.5

[smufguy]

my bad here is the car and driver specs. The 0-60 was not 6.9 it was actually 5.9 seconds. Pretty impressive huh?

They also enhance performance. With a five-speed automatic sending power to its front wheels, the EX V-6 four-door needed 7.0 seconds to reach 60 mph and covered the quarter-mile in 15.5 seconds at 92 mph. The six-speed two-door hit 60 in 5.9 seconds and hustled through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 98 mph. Although the coupe did weigh 140 pounds less than the sedan, that's still a pretty strong testimonial for the efficiencies of a standard transmission. We should also add that the Accord manages to deliver the engine's substantial output to the drive wheels with only the barest hint of torque steer. This is not your father's Saab 9-3 Viggen.

http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1

No wonder im still in love with the honda.

[1988starter]

I was just being a dick man but you are right they are hella fun

I test drove one with a friends dad and it so so fucking fun. The 3g was nothing like it

[4sillypwr]

yeah i much prefer the interior of 3g over a mkiii supra...handling blows, and the seats are way to "slouchy" for my tastes.. i feel like i need a visor on sideways just to ride in teh car...

I'll second that. I'm 6 4 and I feel to low. Damn good thing I live in the ghetto.

-David

[Justin86]

my bad here is the car and driver specs. The 0-60 was not 6.9 it was actually 5.9 seconds. Pretty impressive huh?

They also enhance performance. With a five-speed automatic sending power to its front wheels, the EX V-6 four-door needed 7.0 seconds to reach 60 mph and covered the quarter-mile in 15.5 seconds at 92 mph. The six-speed two-door hit 60 in 5.9 seconds and hustled through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 98 mph. Although the coupe did weigh 140 pounds less than the sedan, that's still a pretty strong testimonial for the efficiencies of a standard transmission. We should also add that the Accord manages to deliver the engine's substantial output to the drive wheels with only the barest hint of torque steer. This is not your father's Saab 9-3 Viggen.

http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1

No wonder im still in love with the honda.

Damn pretty impressive. A new V6 with the 6 speed tranny could be a pretty good swap. :cool2:

[modu03]

to add onto this...id much rather be riding inside a supra then a honda....look at the difference in interiors...ive never ridden in a supra..but im willing to bet itd ride 203948 times smoother then a crx with a b16 or a turbo accord....im not trying to put down the 3g...but come one now....plus the supra is probably a lot more reliable....

uhh... ok, it may have more power stock than the 3g, but smoother is all dependant on what kinda suspension upgrades are done. and more reliable... I don't think so... my car is now 17 years old, and has never had the engine rebuilt, everything works... and look around, there are a hell of alot more 3g accords still on the road than there are supras.

also, were talking about a car that comes stock with a good turbo system, stick a comparable turbo system in a 3g and it will easily overtake a supra.

[HaccordR89]

true dat, also, look at the resale value of the 3gee, that speaks for itself

[cubert]

uhh... ok, it may have more power stock than the 3g, but smoother is all dependant on what kinda suspension upgrades are done. and more reliable... I don't think so... my car is now 17 years old, and has never had the engine rebuilt, everything works... and look around, there are a hell of alot more 3g accords still on the road than there are supras.

also, were talking about a car that comes stock with a good turbo system, stick a comparable turbo system in a 3g and it will easily overtake a supra.

define comparable...


if you mean a bigger turbo setup with more boost etc...then yes..but with a similar setup to a supra..the accord would get owned...


as for a hell of a lot more 3gs being on the road.there were a hell of a lot more 3gs to start with

relaibility...i was talking newer supra..so im sticking with more reliable..especially after owning my clam of a 3rd gen..not to say all of them are...

as far as resale value goes..i wouldnt be looking to sell a supra...so thats not a factor