Accord of the Month Suggestions

[NXRacer]

i thought i'd post up my ideas progress so far here and see what ya'll have to say. I've been talking to joe about this and he's giving me some direction as to how we should do this and i thought i'd post up a draft of the nominee list thread and get some ideas for the real thing.

here's what i have so far:

OFFICIAL 'RIDE OF THE MONTH' NOMINEE LIST

Since the project ROTM has been given the green light, i am posting up this thread for nominations on who should be eligable. Just post up ideas of who should be nominated. NOMINATIONS ONLY, NO COMMENTS PLEASE.

Rules for entries:
1 - must be a current member for no less then 6 months and currently own the car.
2 - must have no considerable visable rust or other body damage (dents, dings, primer spots etc)
3 - can not have any missing external body parts (fenders, hood, bumpers etc)
4 - no self nominations. Nominating yourself could result in disqualification.

Winners will be selected up to a month ahead of time. Each month the car will be chosen as randomly as possible so no favors are picked. This is going to be as straightfoward as possible. Past winners will be posted up to help keep track of who has won. Since this will be 'ride of the month' there will be no duplicates for nominations. Once your car has been chosen it will not be available for nomination for a year. This will give as many cars as possible to be ROTM.

[k-roy]

I like where you are going with it but I say let the n00bs have a shot at it to, like K-MOD for example.

[87accordlxi]

OFFICIAL 'RIDE OF THE MONTH' NOMINEE LIST

Since the project ROTM has been given the green light, i am posting up this thread for nominations on who should be eligable. Just post up ideas of who should be nominated. NOMINATIONS ONLY, NO COMMENTS PLEASE.

Rules for entries:
1 - must be a current member for no less then 6 months and currently own the car.

I wouldn't object to this. I think we can go a couple months shorter, but it's not a major hangup

2 - must have no considerable visable rust or other body damage (dents, dings, primer spots etc)

OK

3 - can not have any missing external body parts (fenders, hood, bumpers etc)

OK

4 - no self nominations. Nominating yourself could result in disqualification.

Definitely agreed. I remember when we first started the Buyer/Seller ratings, people were starting new threads to talk about themselves

Winners will be selected up to a month ahead of time. Each month the car will be chosen as randomly as possible so no favors are picked.

I am still unclear on how a random drawing can be accomplished and make people believe without a doubt that it was actually random and not just someone's choice. I agree that random would be better than a poll, but I need explanation of how it can be implemented.

This is going to be as straightfoward as possible. Past winners will be posted up to help keep track of who has won. Since this will be 'ride of the month' there will be no duplicates for nominations. Once your car has been chosen it will not be available for nomination for a year. This will give as many cars as possible to be ROTM.

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[NXRacer]

I like where you are going with it but I say let the n00bs have a shot at it to, like K-MOD for example.

a shot at it as in how? like elligable for ROTM?? He'll have to wait until he's been a member for a while.

i also thought that if you've been a member for less then the specified time, but you're a contributing member, then you're elligible since you've put money down to the site.

[NXRacer]

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I am still unclear on how a random drawing can be accomplished and make people believe without a doubt that it was actually random and not just someone's choice. I agree that random would be better than a poll, but I need explanation of how it can be implemented.

im not sure yet how it'll be done. maybe we can come up with a creative but fair way to do it.

anybody have any ideas?

[Mike's89AccordLX]

I really like how this is being setup. I'm also a little confused on how it would be random. I think the users have to be active like online every now and then. And then we can get a list of those people and then just draw names out of a hat or we can put them on a list on paper and then shut your eyes and point with a pen. I think we would have a mod or an admin do that name choosing so people can't complain. How's that sound? Can we have a mod or an admin volunteer to do this?


Oh and after the ROTM is picked then that name gets crossed off the list. So that way you wouldn't be wasting paper every month

[NXRacer]

joe told me before that he doesnt want to have the mods/admins be super active in this because they're busy enough as it is. Of course they'll be over looking the whole project, but it'll be up to us 'peons' to do the dirty work.

I think picking out of a hat would be the best idea. And everybody will have to just deal with it if they have a problem as to who's been picked.

[87accordlxi]

I think we would have a mod or an admin do that name choosing so people can't complain.

Ohhh people would still complain. In fact, I'm sure certain people would complain simply because that ability is solely granted to the mods and admins.

It could be based on a point system. Say out of a total of three points, the person(s) with the most nominations gets 1 point. Then the winner of a popular vote (poll) gets 1 point. If the person(s) who has the most nominations is different than the person who won the popular vote, then it goes to the Admin for a tiebreaker. If the person who has the most nominations is the same as the popular vote winner, then he/she has 2 out 3 points and would automatically win AOM, and Admin voting would be irrelevant. Does this make sense? The winner would require at least a 2/3 majority.

[NXRacer]

thats kinda complicated, but its better then picking out of a hat.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

I don't know I guess that got me confused so if you guys think its the best way then lets do it.

[k-roy]

I like the idea of having a point system to determine the users from different factors. Like motor/body/interior.

I got a good question. Do you guys think the foundation should pick the ROTM or is it going to be up to the public users? My opinion is the Foundation members and mods/admins should decide.

[NXRacer]

we're gonna have a ROTM 'board' that does selections and write ups. But we were thinking that foundation members/mods would oversee the whole project.

['A20A3']

I like Kroy's perspective on this one.

What do you mean 'oversee'?

[NXRacer]

Oversee = in charge of everything

if nobody has any more imput/ideas for this, i'm gonna post up the nominee list on friday and hopefully have our first AOM on Feb 1st.

[87accordlxi]

I want to see some suggestions from people concerning how you think this should be set up. I want more people's opinions in on this, not less.

I would like to see some suggestions on...

1. How people will be nominated.
2. How we choose the winner
3. How we keep track of who has already won, and when they won
4. How long can it be before someone who has won can be nominated again
5. Requirements, if any, that are needed to be nominated
6. Whose job this should be to handle (A sticky situation, and no we aren't adding new staff for this)
7. Who comes up with the write-up for each month (I'm thinking whoever nominates the person should do the write-up)
8. How it will be displayed (announcement, sticky thread, combination of both? It cannot be off-site)
9. Deadlines for nominations and for choosing the winner

[Mike's89AccordLX]

That sounds like a good idea.

[87accordlxi]

we're gonna have a ROTM 'board' that does selections and write ups. But we were thinking that foundation members/mods would oversee the whole project.

Now hold on a minute, there's no way we can get this organized and have an AOM by February. And where the did this "board" idea come from? This hasn't been fully discussed on the board (regular members should contribute to the discussion, not just foundation) and hasn't been discussed at all among the Admin. We aren't going to just make up the process as we go along, this is going to be very structured and institutionalized if it has anything to do with me. It would have to be if it is going to be an ongoing process. We'll shoot for a timetable of getting this sorted out by early February in time for preparations of a March AOM.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Well then I think we need to move this thread into the regular forum b/c everyone else deserves to see what we've been talking about then. Or we can somehow combine the two existing threads to make it less complicated. I think we need to get about 5 to 10 people that want to help organize this thing and then get on AIM and have a chatroom so we can have an open dicussion about everything that will go on. I think it would be best to have foundation, mod, and admins handle all of the preperations. But everyone will be allowed to participate in voting and being able to have their car as ROTM.

-Mike

[NXRacer]

the 'board' i was referring to was just the people who are interested in helping out and will contribute some help to get this up and going. Im just taking some initiative to get this going and if the admins think it needs more time then we'll take more time. I want this to be a quality thing too, but i thought it wouldnt be a bad idea to at least get a list started of eligable accords.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Well I think this is what we need to do. Have a sign up list for everyone that has an eligible accord. We could just make a thread and people would just post their name and maybe one pic. Nothing else just name and a pic. We don't want any comments or anything. And then the people that are in charge of setting this up will decide who is eligible by that list and then we can pick 10 or however many people randomly out of that list of people. And then we can contact those people and have them get us certain pics of the car (different angles and views). And then we will put a poll up with each contestants name and a few shots of their car. And then everyone would then be allowed to cast their votes. And we should only have the voting only like 1 week or something like that.

What do you guys think about that?

-Mike

[NXRacer]

Nobody can nominate their own car for AOM. However many accords we deem elligable those will go on the list for AOM.

Joe - let us (the non admin folks) know when the admins/mods have had a chance to discuss this and what you want to do to move foward with this. I guess i'll just wait to move on until i hear from 'management' about what to do next. I dont want to step on any toes here, i'd just like to do as much as possible to keep this moving foward.

[maka_RTH]

I just read up on how this is going, and it's sounding good. I agree on the fact that there should be a minimum time that someone has to have been a member, with the exception of contributing members. I also support having a poll in the selection process, because that will also help cut down on the assumption that it is the one favorite of the mod/admin choosing(assuming that route were taken instead). Along with the poll, the point system in general would be great. I think Mike has a good idea on the nominations with the pics and whatnot. I agree with the fact that this should be run by the foundation members(ultimately admins/mods, but delegated to us), but it has to have the input of the regular user as well or you run into conflicts. If it's neccessary we can always fine tune the process in the future, but I also agree on the fact that we should take more time to make the process as good as possible before we officially start. anyways..., my two cents, seeing as how i'm not on too often these days...

[87accordlxi]

All's I'm saying is that we shouldn't be in any rush to get this done and ready for the board. Our backs aren't against the wall on this, so there's no pressure. I want to do it once, and do it right because I've done things through urgency or in response to considerable member initiative (signature rules) and have had to go back and revise it because it the original plan didn't work out so well. Let's not start a thread or do anything just yet, but rather simply work out the plan first. I would like to get input from regular members, but nobody seems to be saying anything other than the usual "it's a great idea!"

I think we can strike a comprimise between random voting (ultimate fairness) and poll voting (easiest). If my point system was too confusing, then we can do something like Caleb said where the nominees are chosen at random, and then voted on with a poll. Say we leave a thread open for the first two weeks of each month asking for nominees for that month. Put all the eligible (see #1 below) nominees in a hat and draw out 5 names (see #2 and #3 below). The use a poll and let the members decide. And the winner of the poll on the 30th/31st of that month is the AOM. No need for Admin approval.

#1. I think we all agree on requirements, except I think 3 or 4 months membership is more reasonable. We will also have to require that the nominator include a picture and brief description of the nominee's car, as well as write a paragraph or so as a write-up. Since there will be lazy shits who will ultimately neglect to do the write-up, perhaps the Foundation can come up with a write-up in that case.

#2. I will only agree to random nomination as long as the nominees can be aproved of by the admins prior to posting. Since things can move slowly in the Admin section, that will usually mean me, and whoever else decides to contribute in the day or two that we can devote for approval. The point is to watch and see if people's friends somehow keep being "randomly" chosen to be in the top 5.

#3. I think it's best that no matter how many nominations a person receives from different people, they just get one entry in the hat. It increases the chances for newer guys who may not have as many friends on the board.

[NXRacer]

i have a question. who would be the 'nominator' for each month?

[Dibbs]

Joe, I will make my suggestions coinciding numericly w/ your questions.

1. The Administration nominates a top five list.

2. The list is put in a poll "Vote for Accord of the Month" or similar and let the members decide.

3. I'm in favor of making an archive list (linked to the welcome page) w/ simple info like month, year, who won and a link to a write up in the pics section. Make it an announcement b/c it is a write up and not a true thread. Plus no bickering, flossing etc on the matter. Only make it sticky for that one month, then archive the write up.

4. I agree w/ Caleb. We've got enough worthy 3geez out there that could fill up more than a year so I say at least one year before that particular accord can be nominated again. That's not to say that if one member has 2 worthy cars, they can't have both cars win in the same year.

5. Perhaps have members send a PM to some sort of organizer, stating they want to be nominated and provide links to pics of their cars. I'm in favor of keeping requirements to a minimum. I'd vote for a 3g that looked brand new like it rolled off the showroom floor just as fast as I would vote for OSS's car.

6./7. I'm sure there is someone that can be found willing to devote the time and has the ability to make a write up that will show the car in an even greater light than it would w/ just some pictures. This responsibility should be ultimatly be chosen by the administration. Let the Admins/mods ask those who they believe is qualified enough to take on this responsibility and decide from there.

8. I think announcement is the way to go. That leaves out the possibility of cluttering the write-up w/ negative comments or excess flossing of the car itself. Make the announcement run from the first to last days of the month, then archive it.

9. Those in charge of nominations should make the nominations in the first week of the month. The second and third weeks used for voting in the poll (14 day poll). The 4th week and whatever days left over used to organize the write up on the car making it ready to launch the first day of the next month.

Please subject this to any criticism you guys deem necessary. If something suggested is logisticly out of scope, then let it be known.