cheapest way to make the car zoom???

[toastyghost]

jester: a crvtec can pull like 300 horse n/a with only bolt-ons and hi comp i think. oh yes and btw STOP FUCKING SAYING "B20" THERE ARE LIKE 208348348737843 B20's, SINCE YOU MENTION CRV I CAN TELL THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO B20B OR B20Z LEARN TEH CODES. KTHX

boba: i lvoe you man but you dumb. yeah sure and sohc is UBAR PERFORMANCE STUFF :lol no matter what you do to an a20a3, if you had done same to a b20a you would have spent the same money on an extra 40hp/20tq and whatever ratio those stock #'s come out to when you increase perofrmances.. i know i know iron vs alum the eternal struggle but you could easily sleeve a b20a block and be good to 45psi for what it would cost to squeeze an equivalent amount of extra power out of an a20a3. good luck but that thing will not be as beast

edit: one other thing A B16 AND B18 ARE THE SAME FUCKING THING DIFFERENT CRANK THEY ARE JUST AS EASY TO DROP WITH THE PRI OR HASPORT OR WHATEVER FUCKING KIT

[bobafett]

all i heard was BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH lol! JP

anyway until i do this to an a20, and it doesnt live up to my expectations, my plan is fine. if i get 465hp out of the a20, and its just not fast enough, then i will go with a b20!

but its just an accord. its not ever gonna be the fastest and i am not trying to make it the fastest. but i DO want a turbocharged daily driver sleeper, and even the a20 "SOHC" can do that for me.

BUT toasty i see your point. and i was thinking of b20 turbo too at one point. but it just adds more expense in there to perform a swap and rebuild of b20 first... rather than just an a20 rebuild. and if i want that 40hp i will just buy race gas, and up the boost another 5 psi.

[A20A1]

Originally posted by bobafett
all i heard was BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH lol! JP

You too, eh?

I had a simmilar problem in school. :lol

[bobafett]

i am having that problem now in school... all i do is check forums or sleep (literally)
its bad, and i am gonna fail a class because of it.. i need to get my shit together.. heheeh

lol and i can hijack this thread if i want to, because i started it!

[goldyaccord]

I am gonna do A20 turbo too

[Chadroper]

I am working on a DOHC 16 valve head for the A20A block. The valve train from a B16 engine should bolt to it. Then it might be possible to put VTEC on the A20A block and turbocharge it.

[toastyghost]

Chadroper if you do that, you rule. Most people on here (myself included) would rather eat nails than think about custom fabrication.

[bobafett]

that WOULD be interesting... dohc vtec head, MADE for a20... stilll maintain the good properties of a20 block, and get the benies of the high tech b-series

i hope u come thru with this. it sounds like there is a good chance... good luck and keep up the hard works

[Dibbs]

<looking on the map for Sherman>

I'm on my way!

[Neo_jobe316]

Chadroper keep us informed on that project. i would like one of those myself when you get finised maby you could give us details and perhaps a HowTo on it. so far all i have on my 87' LX-i is straight piped E and a cold air intake. but i plan on having a "so called" moster A20. just so i can say .. hey look ...on another note my friend has a stock del sol and i talked him out of the b16a and into a b18d "performance shops from my area said that the h22 Vtec is nice but it adds alot of weight to the car. and a spoon is just a hoped up b18 imported from japan." So the B18d is a tame spoon. for 3400-3500$ you get engine,tranny,harnesses and an install.. at least thats what the guy told me.i also could be wrong." but anyway ya keep us updated on that DohC project.
Thanks

[dhcarss]

Originally posted by toastyghost
roll it off a cliff

haha, that or nitrous will work. or maybe even stickers..

[toastyghost]

Or a recipro... Some car mag took close to 3 seconds off of some dude's Maxima by ripping virtually every body part and any frame piece that wasn't necessary for holding the damn thing together. I wish I still had the link to that article, it was funny as hell. The car looked like shit when they were done, but it went from high 16's to high 13's for free. :lol

[bobafett]

nah it was 2 seconds. went into 14's but yeah they fucking stripped the shit out of it.

sport compact car mag had it a while back, i have the issue somewhere.

but lol they chopped off EVERYTHING

[3rd GEN]

i have to agree that our A20's are a pretty good little monster.

one of my buddy's has an 95 ex accord with vtec and everytime i give him a ride in my car, he loves my car and he's like " damn, this thing pulls good.." actually it pulls better then his! lol.
but once you get our engines up there, like i'm talkin to the 5-7K rpm range...it almost feels like there's some kind of vtec or boost..
our engines haul at that rpm..

but ya.. that was the two scenarios i was also thinking of going..

1. keep the good ol A20, save the money on a swap cuz i already got a motor..build the a20 and go turbo..or

2. go with a b18 swap and turbo it...
recently...i was really seriously thinking about geting a b18 swap done..like in the next 6 months..

i've pretty much made up my mind that a b18 is gonna be my path..
otherwise..ya..the A20 turbo would be sweet

[toastyghost]

Boba: I love the part when they're like "but how could we get that extra .2 out of it? There HAD to be a way..." and the one dude is like "chicks dig a convertible" and they cut the fucking roof off. :lol

3rdGen: B18A/B, B18C1/5? I swear I'm going to teach you people how to write out a complete engine code if it's the last thing I do.

[bobafett]

well when u see a blacked out hatch taillights, and hear a bov that will be the a20a3 (BT) turbo accord... faster than the b18 accords. just look at wickedaccord vs sean.

[3rd GEN]

ya i do have to admit.. our engines do haul..esp once you get to the redline range..
they do have great power...now just turbo this little monster and you will be seriously haulin some ass...

thats my BIG contemplation right now..
swap in a younger A20a3, build it up and turbo it..

or save up and swap in a b18c1, build it and go turbo...

[bobafett]

just turbo the a20 for the ammount of money u would spend getting a b18c1 in your car, think about how much money could have been put into your accord and the 4psi more it would take to match the power output lol and prolly costs 3000 to do b18c1 swap.. that much money to build an a20 and you could run 15-18psi.. OMG talk about no traction in 3rd..

[toastyghost]

Then think about how fucking retarded you are because you just spent $Xk on a turbo kit for an obscure single cam motor for the sole purpose of standing a chance against NATURALLY ASPIRATED commonplace twin cam motors.. sorry hate to be devil's advocate

[bobafett]

nah it would whoop at dohc ass....

PLUS, everything except the manifold and downpipe could be reused on a b series swap as well, so the $$$ invested into turbo carries over to another engine as well.

[3rd GEN]

mmmmmmmmm. this is getting interesting..
i can soooo picture a nice little turbo on the A20 under my hood..
just to show people that.. they will be like " WHao"!!

although our engines are SOHC..they can still produce some good power...and they can take alot of abuse due to the iron block, as compaired to an alluminum block..

[Sean]

https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22743

this will be the kit ill be selling. the manifold has been revised as a 4into1 however. ill be testing it shortly.