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    turbos & engine fires... I wish I didn't know about this

    You guessed it, today my car decided to catch on fire. It was tight. Everyone should be able to experience something this cool, especially when it happens to a car you have put such an insane amount of work into. My radiator or something was leaking coolant and my car overheated. I added coolant and water and then didn't tighten the cap, trying to minimize leakage due to pressure build up. I then drove about 45 minutes on the freeway, and after seeing that my car wasn't starting to heat, I smoked a couple people, embarrassed a 1.8T, and came to the stop by my house. As I was turning away from the stop, a large cloud of coolant smoke came out from under my hood. I continued to roll for about 2 blocks before I started to smell something far too acrid to be just coolant. By now, people were starting to look and clouds of black grey smoke were starting to pour out from the sides of my hood, and my engine was barely running. It died as I turned on the street to my house, and then the hood began to blister and swell up, a bulge of about 2 inches. I hit the e brake, hopped my ass out of the car and popped the hood, slightly burning my hand. I couldn't even see my fucking engine, all I saw was orange flames. I then dropped the hood, ran back into the car, grabbed the gallon of water that I bought in case my car continued to overheat, and dunked my whole engine. My hood was still on fire, so I dropped it, got my other gallon, and dunked it too. One of my neighbors was standing on his lawn with his mouth hanging open as I did all this shit with a quickness. His punk ass went inside when I started pushing the car down the street to my house. Damn was I ever glad I had that water sitting there on the passenger seat...although I do have a fire extinguisher in the back anyway. Here are the morals of this story:
    1) ALWAYS carry a fire extinguisher
    2) Coolant is flammable!!
    3) Don't leave the radiator cap loose if you have a hot turbo header
    4) Turbos add a lot of heat. If you can't protect EVERYTHING from the heat, get it out of the engine bay, which is what I am going to do now (evo style hood scoop) Also, it really helps if you don't have such a huge header like me, and also stainless steel doesn't conduct as much heat.
    Basically my theory on how this happened is that the coolant spilled onto the hot manifold, caught on fire, and then set everything else on fire, because after driving fast with the A/C on for 45 minutes, everything was very hot already. The A/C turns on the cooling fans and they push air right across the manifold and turbo and then blow it on all the shit that caught on fire. I am going to need new wiring for the distributor, new plug wires, a bunch of new hoses and other wires, new clutch and speedo cables, a new hood, a new radiator, etc etc. Even my emissions control box is all melted, and all kinds of shit on the firewall (how appropriate) is all fucked up. I'm not even stressing though, I am going to buy sean's ecm conversion, put on a large quantity of new performance parts, and be flossin an evo style hoodscoop, all fairly soon. I just put in the walbro pump, and I modified an AEBS aftermarket type r manifold to fit. Alright you guys, peace, and keep the sleepers out on the streets



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    well, that was plain stupid. you knew about your overheating problem and you still prossed to race people. if it was my car i would be rolling home at slow speed just so i couldn't overheat.
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    OMG I never knew coolant was flamable?????????
    thats sucks big time.
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    Sheperd 79 and Vanilla Sky, my shit didn't catch on fire because I was racing, it wasn't overheated at all when it caught on fire. It caught fire coasting on a residential street. I heard sean's shit had a small flameage problem too, because of some other stupid little problem like mine, and we both have way better setups than either of you. Keep talking shit and you'll lose the respect of people like us who actually build legit cars

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    Damn, that shits wack...

    Good you had water in the car at least. I dunno anybody that rolls around with two gallons, but I guess that was your lucky day


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    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    Sheperd 79 and Vanilla Sky, my shit didn't catch on fire because I was racing, it wasn't overheated at all when it caught on fire. It caught fire coasting on a residential street. I heard sean's shit had a small flameage problem too, because of some other stupid little problem like mine, and we both have way better setups than either of you. Keep talking shit and you'll lose the respect of people like us who actually build legit cars
    Accordtheory, i don't care about your car. i don't care if your car is faster than mine because i don't race. I use my car as commuter car. i am just saying it was your damn fault it cought on fire.

    PS. as of right now, I lost all the respect for you as member of this board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    Keep talking shit and you'll lose the respect of people like us who actually build legit cars
    I thought legit cars did not catch fire, i guess I was wrong.

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    Jegs sells some high temperature heat wrap. Wouldnt this help combat the problem with heat from the header and turbo?
    Last edited by RobbyKlotz; 04-26-2004 at 04:38 AM. Reason: screwed up
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    Damn, that's a killa but like you said, no need to worry about it.... Just rebuild that thing and get it back on the road... And another thing, I don't understand why people are sweating you so much just because the joint caught fire, damn, it happens to the best of them.... Get over it, rebuild and keep on going....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbyKlotz
    Jegs sells some high temperature heat wrap. Wouldnt this help combat the problem with heat from the header and turbo?
    That will do little to help his problem. I bet he has a stock cooling system without proper venting throught he hood and the fenders.

    Good luck on the rebuild, and pray your pistons are not toasted.
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    i doubt it's a honda not a ford . . . . . . man i'm feel sorry do to tha fact that this happend to ya . . . . . . .

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    overheating an engine is one of the wost things you can do... up there with running it low (or out) of oil... hahah i saw that at the track the other day, this punk ass kid had a boosted dodge avenger there and he left the line and then boost spiked and overrevved and then a huge cloud of smoky steam came out of his hood... very ugly. Fortunatley for him he just blew a radiator hose.
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    It overheated and then you raced before you fixed the cooling problem(s).
    I think thats what people were getting at.

    Anyways I messed around with a hood once, added all sorts of vents and my hood scoop.
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    Damn that's sucks to hear, but yeah pushing your cars limits when it has a known problem is a huge mistake which you have to deal with now. And just b/c you have a turbo doesn't mean you can think you're better than everyone else that doesn't. I'm sorry I have a N/A motor and I'm happy with it and I beat many people on the streets with it. I'm Mechanic student at my college here and I just hope you didn't crack a head or warp it b/c you overheated your motor. Overheating is possibly the worst thing that could be done to a motor (I suppose catching fire is just as bad though )

    This is my perspective on cars and their owners. It doesn't matter what you have in your car, it matters on how the car is taken car of and maintained. I don't give respect to anyone that doesn't do their own stuff. Example: Why should I have respect for someone that just has a bunch of cash or if their parents do? Or why should I have respect for someone who pays someone else to mod their car? I've done everything to my car myself and that's the way it's going to stay. I'm not talking trash to anyone in particular this is just my opinion about cars and the owners.

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    LOL my car did the same thing....BUT I STOPPED AND LET IT REST NOT RACE IT DUMBASS...LOL you get no sympathy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    Sheperd 79 and Vanilla Sky, my shit didn't catch on fire because I was racing, it wasn't overheated at all when it caught on fire. It caught fire coasting on a residential street. I heard sean's shit had a small flameage problem too, because of some other stupid little problem like mine, and we both have way better setups than either of you. Keep talking shit and you'll lose the respect of people like us who actually build legit cars
    Your talkin alot of shit can you back it up with some pics ? If YOU spent so much time and work on your car you would KNOW any loss of coolant is dangerous and adding water instead of coolant is not the best idea either and you would know the consequences for this lack of judgment. Like Shep said you should have limped it home man your mistake was driving 45 mins on the freeway when you knew you were leaking or had lost coolant that I’m sure did not help and shows ignorance. Sorry to hear about the loss though better luck next time.
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    if it still runs it's a okay. if not then fix and make better. hey the dude got a kill so his day wasn't a total crapfest.

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    Yeah lets try and be mature guys. I agree that it probably wasn't the smartest thing to do but hey, you can't turn back time. And that was probably his only way to get home and he might have thought it was ok since it had coolant and water in it then. There's no reason to start arguements, that includes everyone. Stuff was said and well it could be edited or apologised for but you can't turn back time, but you can try and fix it.

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    hmm i had a fuel line rupture and that cuase some serious problems for me. Nice big underhood fire. fortunately for me it didnt blister the paint and was quickly exstinguished by a halon system. always keep a halon system on a r&d vehicle.
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    thats shitty about the fire, hopefully the car will be bigger and better when it hits the streets again.

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    Hey, may not have been the smartest move to keep driving hard after it overheated, but you don't stomp on a guy after he's been through such a devastating loss, especially a board brother. Take care of our own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett
    thats shitty about the fire, hopefully the car will be bigger and better when it hits the streets again.

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