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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    ok does'nt sound to difficult but do you have picture of what tdc and the cam gear being aligned looks like, and also how do i know what tdc looks like at piston 1, which i'm assuming is the furthest away from the dizzy.

    i'll probably just buy a few valve gaskets and open it and take pictures before touching anything.
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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    whats the difference between the timing lights, inductive, advance, digital

    cause they have diferent prices at autozone, starting at 40, 70; 100
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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDRaptor
    whats the difference between the timing lights, inductive, advance, digital
    cause they have diferent prices at autozone, starting at 40, 70; 100
    Some of the high end advance timing lights can check any type of electronic/vacuum/centrifugal advance mechanisms. Also, they can check the timing at higher RPMS. On the digital ones, they can have a tachometer reading, advance reading, & timing light.
    A simple inductive timing light is about all you need for these cars.
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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    sweet i love my accord all the things necessary are very cheap and simple.
    parts are cheap too.
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    Talking Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    my t balt broke while engine was doing 900rpm no damage done

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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    About 2 years ago I had an '87 LX-i that snapped a timing belt, and the mechanic put a new one on and the car was ready for the road again! Car ran better than it did before the belt broke.

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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    I have been able to learn how to adjust my belt but everytime i set it to the correct tooth, i tighten the tensioner and then rotate the crankshaft it's always off between 17-23 teeth behind where i placed it and i don't know why. keep in my i have'nt removed and drivebelts or anything of the like.

    edit. sorry for reviveing the old thread did'nt see a need to start a new one.
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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDRaptor
    I have been able to learn how to adjust my belt but everytime i set it to the correct tooth, i tighten the tensioner and then rotate the crankshaft it's always off between 17-23 teeth behind where i placed it and i don't know why. keep in my i have'nt removed and drivebelts or anything of the like.

    edit. sorry for reviveing the old thread did'nt see a need to start a new one.
    Well here is what I did. I put the timing belt on the crankshaft, but left it off of the camshaft sprocket. I then turned the crank until i saw the "marking" through the flywheel window. That will be TDC for the crank. Once that lined up perfectly, I rotated the Camshaft sprocket so that it was at TDC (when the "UP" is completely 90 degrees). Then try to put the belt on the camshaft sprocket, and then tighten the belt. You may be on or two teeth off, but the car will still run. It will just drive differently.

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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    heresy the thing i already have the belt marked where i need it im just trying to get that marked 1 tooth in front of the up so she can run the way she used to be but every time i set it on the correct tooth when i turn the crank i roatation the mark is off by exactly 23 teeth and i cant advance it by 23 because the crank binds, so im like so confused.
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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDRaptor
    heresy the thing i already have the belt marked where i need it im just trying to get that marked 1 tooth in front of the up so she can run the way she used to be but every time i set it on the correct tooth when i turn the crank i roatation the mark is off by exactly 23 teeth and i cant advance it by 23 because the crank binds, so im like so confused.
    Its hard for me to understand what you just said, but I think I have the idea. I would say screw the mark where you need it and just start from scratch. If you start from scratch, you may be able to get the car to run even better then it did before. Just try it.

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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    no timing light.
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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    The reason your off 17-23 teeth is cause your making just one revolution with the crankshaft. You need to make 2 revolutions with the crankshaft bolt if your checking to see if the marks line up back at TDC #1 compression stroke.

    What you been looking at is TDC on the exhaust stroke.
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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    yes your right i took off the dizzy cap and saw the rotor backwardsandfigured my mistake, now i just don't have a spark.
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    Re: What happens when your Timing Belt goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blkblurr View Post
    The interference tag has been put on the engine because the valves extend into the piston area but the pistons have cresent dishes in them to stop the damage. None of the Accord engine are damaging interference engines from the factory as built. If you modify the engine by changing pistons or valves you can cause damage. This is why Honda calls them interference engines. Anyone that has had a valve bent has had this happen due to other causes. I milled my head by .008" and the valve still does not hit. It is not possible to end up with a good unbent valve during a timing belt break if the engine is a damaging interference engine. If you understand the physics of the valve trane and the lower piston/ crank trane you would know that at any normal operating speed, the valves will hit the piston if the timing belt breaks if the engine is a true damaging interference engine. There are four possibilites of valve damage per engine cycle and the engine cannot stop fast enough to stop it from getting through many cycles before it comes to a stop especially manual trannys. If the engines were damaging interference engines, you would have nearly 100% failure during a timing belt break. I have rebuilt the top end of my engine and performed the very test I mentioned before. I wish I had recorded it when I did this so I could post it. Maybe then this debate would end.
    Thanks for this info!!! This should be stickied somewhere. It would be nice if the Haynes manuals could be updated with the correct information.

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