4 bolt to 5 bolt

[slowazz86carb]

Is there any easy way to convert from 4 bolt to 5 bolt.i know somebody that might want to sell there luse blade wheels.but they are 5 bolt.

[shepherd79]

nope. there is no easy way.
you stuck with 4 bolt.

[86LXItooFAST4me]

i was thinking of this to, there is no way to swap out the hubs at all with a 5 lug?

[Vanilla Sky]

i'm gonna have to disagree here... i would think that with the amount that honda has parts-binned these cars (some of the parts are still used today), and the minor modifications that some of them did recieve might lend itself to us being able to, with light machining, have 5 lug wheel hubs... might possibly even be able to get away with a bolt-on 5 lug hub for our cars, direct from another car... i think the best bet would be the 6th gen accord... if i can remember it, i'll see what i can come up with by crossreferencing parts...

[86LXItooFAST4me]

hummmm, *rubs chin* what would be the pros and cons? bigger tires for better traction, and more reliability i guess?

[SteveDX89]

The only advantage is you have 5 lug nuts holding the wheel on compared to 4. Doesn't affect anything else.

[Vanilla Sky]

The only advantage is you have 5 lug nuts holding the wheel on compared to 4. Doesn't affect anything else.

exactly... that's almost a downside :/

[86LXItooFAST4me]

so basically there is no point?

[Ludi Mali]

the advantage is a wider selection of aftermarket wheels.

[jonrichert]

the advantage is a wider selection of aftermarket wheels.

there are more than enough aftermarket wheels produced with all the support for civics and tegs.

[AccordEpicenter]

Originally Posted by Ludi Mali
the advantage is a wider selection of aftermarket wheels.

there are more than enough aftermarket wheels produced with all the support for civics and tegs.

Exaclty so if the speed demon chomeys dont match your fart can exaust tip... instead of switching to 5 lug to get a better selection you need to quit being a ricer.

[markmdz89hatch]

The only benefit would be when you are making LOTS of horsepower, and even then, it's arguable that you need to/benefit from, doing the conversion. Going with a 5 lug, or even a 4x114 lug from the 4x100 gives you a little less strain on each wheel stud, and if nothing else, a little more piece of mind.

Honestly though, I've been contemplating it for a while now. As soon as I get off my ass, I'm going to do exactly what Derek mentioned, and try to find a direct replacement 4x114 hub for the 3G, and if that does not exist, then I'll be off to a machine/tooling shop and have a hub redrilled for the 4x114 pattern, or even have a new hub milled out for me.

Nothing is all that difficult, it just takes time and patience.

My main reasoning for doing it is for a few reasons, 1. although not that much better, the wheel availability in the 4x114 is better, and 2. the fact that I have 3 full sets of used 16" Pannasports with Kumho Ecsta V700 R's for only $300 per set. Can we say, let the racing season begin? I think so me maties.

[AccordEpicenter]

Going with a 5 lug, or even a 4x114 lug from the 4x100 gives you a little less strain on each wheel stud, and if nothing else, a little more piece of mind.

well yea but the strength difference... i mean wheel studs are very strong and the force it would take to separate the hub/studs from a properly fastened wheel is enormous, alot of the strength comes from the wheel being clamped to the hub, so if the wheel was properly fastened in the first place i cant imagine youd ever benefit from stud strength, quantity or placement changes. Also differnt hubs will probably require different brakes and possibly bearings and or knuckles if you want this to be a seamless affair. Wheel adaptors suck ass and should not be used. The point is the only benefit, really, that youre gonna get practically is going to be the different range of wheels you can use

[markmdz89hatch]

well yea but the strength difference... i mean wheel studs are very strong and the force it would take to separate the hub/studs from a properly fastened wheel is enormous, alot of the strength comes from the wheel being clamped to the hub, so if the wheel was properly fastened in the first place i cant imagine youd ever benefit from stud strength, quantity or placement changes. Also differnt hubs will probably require different brakes and possibly bearings and or knuckles if you want this to be a seamless affair. Wheel adaptors suck ass and should not be used. The point is the only benefit, really, that youre gonna get practically is going to be the different range of wheels you can use

Agreed.

[$40089'accordproject]

I am going 2 pull wheels and hubs off a 98 accord thay are 5 Lug

[Vanilla Sky]

yeah... i mean, there are rally cars that run with the same 4x100 pattern we have... they may not be high powered cars, but they take more of a beating than an engine would put out... think of all the bumps and jumps and weight transfers that true race cars go through... it doesn't matter at all to me anymore, as i found a set of wheels i want for the 4x100 bolt pattern (spoon wheels, $390 each... pricey, but nice)... if the hub becomes a problem, then maybe it would be worth the money, research, and fabrication possibly involved, but for now, i'm satisfied with the 4x100 pattern...

[AccordEpicenter]

EXACTLY... i dont know about you but all the rally cars ive seen have literally broken wheels before hubs or studs... so thats more of a weak link... but damn how hard do you have to hit somthing to break a wheel soo badly that all thats left are the center 6" of the wheel left.... Rally cars rule

[Busted_Blue]

Besides. 5lug is weighs more . A lot of Type R owners swap their 5lug conversion for a 4lug + cash. with the less weight from the 4lug they can put the extra money they spent into something else nicer.