Ignition Coil Thread (UNDER CONSTRUCTION)

[anchovies]

Originally posted by Site
"but a spark is a spark is a spark"

I have a different view. Puttin an Accel coil in gives a stronger spark. Stronger spark = hotter spark. Also, because the Accel coil is more powerful than stock coil, you can increase the gap of your plugs. That makes a bigger spark. Bigger spark = hotter spark.

The hotter spark burns fuel more completely, increasing HP.

there's whr the wires and spark plugs come into play
Of course you'll get a more complete burn, but if you bring the story further then I can say that you won't feel anything if you don't do anything with the fuel also eh..

[smufguy]

and u dont notice much difference bwt ur stock and aftermarket unless ur stock was dying like anchovies pointed out.

[1988starter]

For me things smoothed out consideriably.

[rocky2]

I would reccomend headers as the most cost effective HP increase, and should be #1 modifacation before coil.

[Immeraufdemhund]

hmm.. headers are over 100 and coils are in the 30's. for some of us headers would take a litle while to save up for. Plus not everyone knows how to put on headers, so theyd have to bring it to a mechanic, there goes more money. The accel coil is easy, take off the old one splice some wires and put it back on. No prob at all. Yah headers are nicer over all, but for a quick mod that will help a little bit and cheap, most will chose the cheap first.

[anchovies]

rocky2 is talking about "cost effective HP increase"

[87accordlxph]

What about having the proper kind of wires?

I have an accel coil, NGK wires and Boshe plats plugs.

Would the coil eventually destroy my wires cause they cannot provide the resistance to the more power coil? How long would these wires last before I would need to replace them or should I just get the Magnecor ones or just go back to the stock coil.

Need more info on the whole ignition upgrade theory please.

Thanks,

-Mike

[jlaccord89lxi]

Amen!...that's my one thing to learn today!

[Site]

Yeah! That's what I was saying in this post:
https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?...7200#post77200

I'm glad to see someone back it up.

[anchovies]

Originally posted by OldSchoolSwap

Older vehicles or those that have been modified with higher compression or boosted (nitrous, turbo, supercharged) engines can certainly take advantage of a more powerful ignition system.

This statement is very important

[guaynabo89]

Hey oldschool.

Whats up with that 25 cent banner thing. Is their suppose to be a picture there?

[Mike's89AccordLX]

The Accel coil won't hurt my plug wire will it?

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by 87accordlxph
What about having the proper kind of wires?

I have an accel coil, NGK wires and Boshe plats plugs.

Would the coil eventually destroy my wires cause they cannot provide the resistance to the more power coil? How long would these wires last before I would need to replace them or should I just get the Magnecor ones or just go back to the stock coil.

Need more info on the whole ignition upgrade theory please.

Thanks,

-Mike

I have never seen wires fry due to Coil upgrades. Infact, upgrading the coil is a good upgrade that will not only burn fuel more efficiently but it will create power (hp) and torque. The amount of "power" increase is not significant but it will increase the overall percentage.

My recomendation is to purchase a set of 8.5 wires (my personal preference is Magnecor) to further transport the spark to its full capacity. Having stock wires or cheap wires will not help to transport high performance spark, hence reducing power potentials.
Its like having a 10 sec car run on spare tires on the track, feel me? On all wheels that is

Anyhow, any more questions?

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by guaynabo89
Hey oldschool.

Whats up with that 25 cent banner thing. Is their suppose to be a picture there?

Welcome to shitty as clubphoto.com BASTARDS!!!

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by Mike's89AccordLX
The Accel coil won't hurt my plug wire will it?

Nope!

[OldSchoolSwap]

Well, here's a thread i started a while back ago and came up again.... https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4032

[OldSchoolSwap]

Ahhhhh! The beauty of Magnecor

[87accordlxph]

Originally posted by OldSchoolSwap

I have never seen wires fry due to Coil upgrades. Infact, upgrading the coil is a good upgrade that will not only burn fuel more efficiently but it will create power (hp) and torque. The amount of "power" increase is not significant but it will increase the overall percentage.

My recomendation is to purchase a set of 8.5 wires (my personal preference is Magnecor) to further transport the spark to its full capacity. Having stock wires or cheap wires will not help to transport high performance spark, hence reducing power potentials.
Its like having a 10 sec car run on spare tires on the track, feel me? On all wheels that is

Anyhow, any more questions?

Thanks man!

-Mike

[OldSchoolSwap]

Originally posted by 87accordlxph


Thanks man!

-Mike

Ju got et meng!

[Greg]

Hey everyone,

I just did some tests on my girlfriend's ignition coil from her 86 LXI. The book on Paul's site says the resistance values should be as follows:

A to D (primary winding resistance) 1,215 - 1,485

B to D (some resistor in the thing) 2,200

A to secondary -- 11,074 - 11,526

Continuity between A & C

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My values @ 72 degrees:

A to D -- 190 ohms (too low by 1,000 ohms!!!)

B to D -- 2,200 ohms (right on)

A to secondary -- 11,470 (within specified range)

A to C -- 50 ohms resistance...


So is my coil bad because the value on the primary is too low? I'm getting an occasional stutter/miss that I'm trying to diagnose. This could be caused by the improper primary winding resistance, right?

Also, is 50 ohms too much since there is supposed to be continuity between A & C (I'm guessing that it's OK)

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So I think I need a new coil. I've been thinking about getting an Accell if they're not too expensive. What's a good place to get one and how much $$$. Can I get them at local places like NAPA, pep boys, autozone or Murray's or do I have to get them online?

Does anyone know the correct part # for the coil for this car?

What is your advice?

[A20A1]

well the stock coils have 4 posts, and the accel has 2 posts...

You would have to use the measures of a 84-85 accord perhaps?
from + to - resistance: 1.06 - 1.24 ohms
from Secondary to + resistance: 7,400 - 11,000 ohms.
but yeah thats for an older accord, I have no Idea about the Accel.

[A20A1]

oops I didn't read the bottom part... I thought that was your sig.

the accel coil is $30 - $40.

I can send you my Accel coil... I have an MSD blaster 2 now... the coil is used though.

[A20A1]

hmm, the coil is sealed... if i ship it by air it may explode... anyone have info on such things?

[Greg]

Hey Mike,

As I think you figured out, those readings were from my stock coil. Rather than buy one from Honda or get a worn-down one from a boneyard, I thought about getting the accell.

Do think your accell is in decent shape still? Did you run it for like 150,000 miles @ 5,000RPM all the time or was it on there for just a little while? I've read your carb mod posts as I've been fixing my carb, and I know you drive hard at times. :pimp:

Used is cool with me as long as you think the thing is still working fine. My girlfriend doesn't drive hard AT ALL. I don't need a hot rod coil. I just need something that will give enough spark to run the car efficiently.

I'd appreciate it a lot if you could give me a deal on your used coil if it's still OK. Email me @ [email protected] if you think it's still working fine and if you think it won't explode on its way from Hawaii to Chicago. Let me know how much you want to cover S&H and your trouble. Regular UPS would be cool w/me.

(sorry for putting in those lines & confusing everyone into thinking it was my sig)

[A20A1]

nah it was 2,000 - 7,000 miles @ 7,500 rpm

I need to head to the post office anyways... I guess I cold wrap it and see how much shipping would be.