Full-Race-style turboheader for A20 is born!!!

**Elijah** · 08-22-2004, 07:49 PM

I have swaped to 330cc injectors.Well as of thursday the injectors and msd and boost controller will be in.As well as the turbo timer.If we cant tune it right at 12 psi then I will keep it a 10

**silly sohc** · 08-22-2004, 08:23 PM

I made the a20 mani for a customer here in town... it inparticular is made for a .48 trim t-3. And allows the keeping of ps and full rad. At the moment I 'm making a mani for an audi engine in a VW (pretty cool, I post for those who are interested) . I usually make honda manis all the time D-B series mostly. As far as my civ goes I"m running 14-15 psi daily for about a yr now.
390 cc injectors
apexi for fuel control
vc2 split second box.
8.4:1 compression.
shot peened stock rods
255 pump walbro
ported head
2.5 dp...

**Not like a rock** · 08-22-2004, 10:18 PM

Your up in Canada right? That's another A20A-T then? Man, we almost have as many turbo 3Gs as we have olympic medals.

**Elijah** · 08-22-2004, 11:05 PM

So much for me being the only turbo a20 in Canada.Well I am for a moment atleast.

**Bobb** · 08-23-2004, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Elijah

So much for me being the only turbo a20 in Canada.Well I am for a moment atleast.

HA ! Im lookin at doing that myself..... Was told a DSM Setup would work with a few mods..... Any Ideas ?

Bob

**Hash_man_Se_i** · 08-23-2004, 08:09 PM

Wow, that looks awesome.... I would you consider making another manifold like that? and if so, how much would you want for it? I'm in Calgary, and may be able to find someone here to do it, but that looks damn good.

**silly sohc** · 08-23-2004, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bobb

HA ! Im lookin at doing that myself..... Was told a DSM Setup would work with a few mods..... Any Ideas ?

Bob

All pm's replied.
As for the DSM turbo idea I would say the stock turbo is too small.... just my .02.

**bodym1** · 08-24-2004, 06:03 PM

The manifold pictured at beginning of thread MAY be coming up on e-bay shortly.It will also include a T3 turbo from a 85 benz 300 DL. No time to finish project

Wanna buy a Project? Go Here

**Robs89LXi** · 08-24-2004, 07:12 PM

Hey, Bodym1, real nice work on the "Project". Show/tell us more about the front bumper; I really like the way it looks. What kind is that?

**jonrichert** · 08-24-2004, 07:16 PM

not a bad lookin skyline you've got there bodym... diggin the tails

***A20A1*** · 08-24-2004, 07:42 PM

Skyline those are vette lights...

I like it though... but that spoiler is a little tiny up there when compared to the bumper... visual weight wise I mean... something like oldschool has would look good cause it sticks out over the back. IMO

Glad to see pics finally, I checked back in on that old thread but never saw any updates...

**smufguy** · 08-25-2004, 07:44 AM

i have emailed and talked to him for a while and he is quite responsive to his emails and very helpful too. I cant wait to get enough money and give my final specs and design to him to get the manifold made. His prices are just right to fit our budget too. I can see him making a steady aftermarket turbo support for our cars with stock motor. Thanks for coming aboard Thornton.

**NXRacer** · 08-25-2004, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by bodym1

Wanna buy a Project? Go Here

OMG the triple headlight beast is aliiiiive. I remember seeing that AGES ago and never hearing anything after. too bad its not completely finished.

**Robs89LXi** · 08-25-2004, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by smufguy

i have emailed and talked to him for a while and he is quite responsive to his emails and very helpful too. I cant wait to get enough money and give my final specs and design to him to get the manifold made. His prices are just right to fit our budget too. I can see him making a steady aftermarket turbo support for our cars with stock motor. Thanks for coming aboard Thornton.

Hey man, so you've been talking to that dude about building a header? Great! I hope it works out and ends up being a good product. I'm still a few months away from buying one, but it will be nice to know that this might be a good option for me. Keep us informed on how it works out.
By the way, just how much stock stuff are you hoping to keep on your car? I mean radiator, cooling fans, A/C? These are the usual problem areas for fitment, and that is the big thing I keep runing into with mine. Being down here in Texas, I can't give up on any of that.

**bodym1** · 08-25-2004, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Robs89LXi

Hey, Bodym1, real nice work on the "Project". Show/tell us more about the front bumper; I really like the way it looks. What kind is that?

I strongly advise NOT to do this body kit,extensive reworking is required

2" out of center of bumper
4" extension of bumperends (rear)
reworked sideskirts (back half extended....front half shortened
Front bumper fits but needs minor trimming

ive got pics somewhere of process

But.....if u want to give a shot,

89-91 Prelude ED Type Demon Front Bumper,ED Type Xtreme Rear Bumper,
ED Type Demon Side Skirts all from extreme dimensions

P.S. Thornton Knows his Shit, He is well known here for his turbo work

**silly sohc** · 08-25-2004, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Robs89LXi

Hey man, so you've been talking to that dude about building a header? Great! I hope it works out and ends up being a good product. I'm still a few months away from buying one, but it will be nice to know that this might be a good option for me. Keep us informed on how it works out.
By the way, just how much stock stuff are you hoping to keep on your car? I mean radiator, cooling fans, A/C? These are the usual problem areas for fitment, and that is the big thing I keep runing into with mine. Being down here in Texas, I can't give up on any of that.

Thanks for the compliment(s) folks....
As for keeping A/C... well hmmmm. that's a whole separate challenge. for those you who may have surfed my cardomain in my sig you've seen some tight fits I"ve come across with that particular style of mani . I can tighten the radius of bends or use schedule material to make up a mani to fit but its more money....(more time). it also may depend if you are comfortable with modding surrounding items in the engine bay to the extent that I do sometimes.

**smufguy** · 08-25-2004, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Robs89LXi

Hey man, so you've been talking to that dude about building a header? Great! I hope it works out and ends up being a good product. I'm still a few months away from buying one, but it will be nice to know that this might be a good option for me. Keep us informed on how it works out.
By the way, just how much stock stuff are you hoping to keep on your car? I mean radiator, cooling fans, A/C? These are the usual problem areas for fitment, and that is the big thing I keep runing into with mine. Being down here in Texas, I can't give up on any of that.

hey rob, Well im keeping the power steering. The ac is already gone. but i might have to get the slim fans. But im keeping the stock radiator for sure. Im also getting a manifold made of my design, and this is after i find out where exactly i want my turbo to be. Im positive if the turbo sits low enough, it will be no problem cause it will tuck in the AC compressor space. But the only issue would be the oil drain from the turbo. If any, i might just put a sump pump to it and pull it out to circulate it. I dont know, i have to see, But still, im in the process of finding a good spot for the turbo to tuck in. i want it as close to the block as possible.

**Robs89LXi** · 08-26-2004, 06:12 AM

The power steering I could live without, I suppose, but the A/C is a must have, as well as good engine cooling, so radiator and fans are also big. I've seen where some guys have gone to a smaller Civic radiator, but I don't know it that would be enough for a 2.0L engine, especially turbocharged.
Does anyone know of, or done, an A/C relocation? This might be my only option, otherwise it's back to the sidewinder type manifold.

**smufguy** · 08-26-2004, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Robs89LXi

The power steering I could live without, I suppose, but the A/C is a must have, as well as good engine cooling, so radiator and fans are also big. I've seen where some guys have gone to a smaller Civic radiator, but I don't know it that would be enough for a 2.0L engine, especially turbocharged.
Does anyone know of, or done, an A/C relocation? This might be my only option, otherwise it's back to the sidewinder type manifold.

get a manifold made that looks like Sean's or looks like a log. Since u are concerened about heat, which i am glad that you do, dont worry about the sidewinder type. It will generate too much heat. Also, keep the full radiator, u need it. THe civic type radiator is either for race only or for civics, not a good idea for daily driving. BUt if u can find a radiator that is thick enough and is a single, i will be shocked. I was thinking of doing it so that i could have little more room for the turbo to sit and also will be easier for it to cool.

For me, since the compressor and the condensor and all the lines gone, there is a lot of air flow for it. The other add on that is a must, is locking hoodpins. The stock hook lock mechanism would interfear with the FMIC, if u plan to run one. Also, dont forget to run an external oil cooler. And me, im gonna rum oil and pwr steering cooler.

PS: I have heard of people running electric power steering pumps (like the new SI). I would like to do that if possible. That would clear up a lot more room too.

**AccordEpicenter** · 08-26-2004, 01:24 PM

The power steering I could live without, I suppose, but the A/C is a must have

you pussy

The other add on that is a must, is locking hoodpins. The stock hook lock mechanism would interfear with the FMIC, if u plan to run one.

not nessescerily, my fmic fits with the stock hood latch unmodified.

**smufguy** · 08-26-2004, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter

not nessescerily, my fmic fits with the stock hood latch unmodified.

how big is your FMIC? Im taking my latch out cause im having problems with my latch release. Its zip-tied to get the tension right, but its still a problem. Besides, here in nj where i live and around, we have buncha cars broken into and engines withi their oil cap taken out and valvetrain filled with sugar. Thats some sick shit, but i have had two guys who run a turbo VW and a civic loose their motor because of this.

**Robs89LXi** · 08-26-2004, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter

you pussy

Ha! Easy for you to say, living up there in NY. A/C is a must down here, and I'm gonna have to find a way to work around it, or relocate it.

**smufguy** · 08-26-2004, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Robs89LXi

Ha! Easy for you to say, living up there in NY. A/C is a must down here, and I'm gonna have to find a way to work around it, or relocate it.

wish they made electric compressors.

time to invent one ain?

**Robs89LXi** · 08-26-2004, 06:57 PM

Maybe I ought to get one of them little oscillating fans that sit on the dash, huh?

Naw, I've always believed, "where there's a will, there's a way". Even if it means having to use a huge hood scoop to make more room for a top mount turbo manifold!

**AccordEpicenter** · 08-26-2004, 07:10 PM

Ha! Easy for you to say, living up there in NY. A/C is a must down here, and I'm gonna have to find a way to work around it, or relocate it.

LOL yeah im just messin about that... If its in the 80s its warm here... so bye bye a/c

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