PROJECT , TURBO ( RobT5580 )

[RobT5580]

I still have the 550's hopefully that will do with my hi-boost setting. If not i will swap them out later.

[Vanilla Sky]

what size is that TB?

[RobT5580]

A 65mm I could have gone larger but believe you need a spacer for the larger edelbrock's and I figured this one is fine for what i want out of this car.

[Hash_man_Se_i]

Looks good rob, those edelbrock manifolds are pretty beastly... Can't wait to see what this spring and summer will bring for your accord.

[RobT5580]

Thanks, I really wanted the BBK manifold but the GSR wont fit so i went with what my tuner recommended. Hopefully it goes well im worried about axles and my head gasket holding up but only time will tell and i have a resolution for both if they come up.

[YK86]

I haven't been on here for a while but damn, nice to see your almost there. Sweet looking set up! Can't wait to see how it turns out after everything is done. Your hard work is definetly paying off.

[carotman]

Coooool

I can't wait to put mine on too!

As for the "high Rpms" I thing it's a misconception to think this manifold will not be good to our car.

Let's compare this with a B16A

A B16A is a 1.6L engine. Each turn a piston will suck air in. So let's say it sucks .4L each turn. At 9000 PRM, this engine will suck 3600 cc of air (if everything is ideal) The B20A will do the same at 7200.

This means that both stock engines will do the same at their peak PRM (the B20A with the Pk2 ecu cuts à 7200).

This manifold is intended to be ABLE to go at those amounts of revs. it doesn't mean it sucks before this.

[Coroncho80]

I still have the 550's hopefully that will do with my hi-boost setting. If not i will swap them out later.

550's will be maxed out by 350 whp. You will need bigger injectors to safetly reach your goal of 400 whp and have more room for upgrades.

[RobT5580]

Damn, Yasu its been a long time! Hope everything is well with you and hows your b20a coming. Mine should have been running in october but a few issues came up. And maurice i didnt know what to get when i was shopping for injectors and thought this was plenty but its not a big deal mine are still basically brand new. If i knew what i was doing i would have gotten the 1000cc's since you can scale it down with the AEM. And for the intake manifold the b20a head is not really comparible to other heads since our intake valves are the size of the H22 valves which no b-series has. So it will certainly flow more air in than a typical b givin the rpm range is similar.

[guaynabo89]

Im bored and procrastinating so I figured i would post some pictures of my b20a progress. Im working on the Edelbrock Victor X B16 manfiold, Edelbrock ITR throttle body, and shortly a 90-93 Integra Fluidyne aluminum radiator.

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Now (in progress)





Don't mind the mess i was test fitting stuff and pulling the engine in and out so its a mess. Im going to fire the car with the accord ecu and new IM/TB to make sure everything is ok then i will put the turbo stuff back on. Im also re routing wires and removing stuff i dont need like the black box so hopefully in the end you wont see much wire and garbage on the fire wall area and fender wells. My tuner is coming back in march so hopefully it goes well then i can hit the dyno for you guys.

Good job. Cant wait till I put mine on. Seeing yours makes me wish I had gotten the polished version.

Hey I got the teg rad in and it looks like the dimensions are almost exact as the Accord except its like an inch shorter width wise. Next thin Is findin a fan to mount on the rad. I've been ooking at the black Magic ones from flexalite since they come with a shroud and then usint the stock ac fan on the teg one.

Anyway glad to see your getting time to work on your projects. Wish I could be doing the same.

[Mike's89AccordLX]

Man I really hope your car works out for you. I think everyone on this site is praying for it to work out for you man! You have put so much time and $$$ into that thing and I just have to say that your car deserves to be one of the best 3G accords on this earth. Maybe you can come down here and race Johnny O's 3G to see who has the fastest one Get some racing slicks too!

[NXRacer]

hey rob, i just noticed you had the stock exhaust manifold in the picture with the new IM. going NA now?????

[RobT5580]

Guaynabo, Thanks for the info im still waiting on my radiator as it was on back order. If it comes by thursday i will fit it on friday and let you know what needs to be done.

Mike, I think Jonny has me beat and im sure his reaction times alone will kill me. Perhaps i should let him run my car so i can see how well it will really do in the 1/4(LOL). I dont think it will feel complete until the paint comes. The body is killing me but with the fab work it needs to be last and it should be nice if i do everything i plan to do.

NX, I decided to break it N/A so when my tuner comes back I dont have any worries. To my surprise i didnt have any problems (leaks, etc) so if i didnt have the problem the car would have gone well. I want to test the TB/IM with the stock stuff just in case I cant start it with the EMS to be sure thats ok before my tuner comes. So hopefully this time things are different but if all else fails I will have it tuned by someone local but I think it will be fine. Im gonna do a compression check and stuff before i put the turbo on just to be sure everything is fine but it ran well N/A for the 750 miles i put on it in dec/jan.

With my fingers crossed you might see a dyno sheet late march if all goes well.

[AccordEpicenter]

youre gonna need some sticky tires man

[guaynabo89]

Guaynabo, Thanks for the info im still waiting on my radiator as it was on back order. If it comes by thursday i will fit it on friday and let you know what needs to be done.

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Looks like just the top and lower mounting studs need to be repositioned. Bottom ones spaced farther apart and top spaced colser together. It will be a snug fit from top to bottom and you might need to bend the lip back flat on the upper raiator support piece to be able to fit it. The teg has a raised hump almost all the way Across the top compared to the Accords which is only raised in the middle.

And of course the overflow tank hose barb points in the opposite direction but thats not a big deal.

The lower rad hose outlet is almost in the exact place as the Accord and the top sits a little closer to the pass side compared to the Accord but thats no big deal either.

Imight have to weld some nuts on it to be able to mount the ac condensor fan and find the teg main fan rather than makin the Accord main fan fit the teg rad.

Overall its pretty much cake to make fit compared to other things ive done

Oh and this is for the 90-93 teg rad

[RobT5580]

Sounds good cant wait to get mine. I was going to cut the lower support ears off and reweld those but if the top posts are off maybe i will just move the posts instead.

Oh i have the spal 12" slim fan and i believe someone on honda-tech is selling them pretty cheap. They do make a dual fan setup with shroud but its like $300 or so. Im just going to use the slim fan and if i ever put the ac back i will get a 2nd fan.

[guaynabo89]

Sounds good cant wait to get mine. I was going to cut the lower support ears off and reweld those but if the top posts are off maybe i will just move the posts instead.

Oh i have the spal 12" slim fan and i believe someone on honda-tech is selling them pretty cheap. They do make a dual fan setup with shroud but its like $300 or so. Im just going to use the slim fan and if i ever put the ac back i will get a 2nd fan.

Yeah I think its alot easier to pay someone to weld em were you need em rather than having to take your car somewhere to get those tabs welded. Besides the posts are already welded on.

Oh I got a good deal on a Griffin radiator so thats what I got. Quality seems to be top notch. http://griffinrad.com/index.php
Those fans are rather pricey. If I cant find one for a good price I might just get the stock teg fan.

How cheap is cheap for the ones over on honda-tech ?

[RobT5580]

I want to say $59 for a 12"spal but i cant find it since I saw it in someone's sig and someone mentioned it in a thread. As for the welding part iv been learning on a mig at my friends shop and those would be easy to do. He has a tig but its not working so if i do the posts i can bring it to another friends shop. I want to learn to mig/tig so when ever i get the chance i use the mig but it takes a lot of practice when your teaching yourself.

I got my honda parts today so i can finish up the engine this weekend and if the radiator comes i will be set.

[Coroncho80]

i Paid $90 for my 12" at a local speed shop.

[RobT5580]

I definatly paid around that too maurice. If i find the link i will post it up for you guys that might be interested.

[w00tw00t111]

OMG that is beatiful.

[carotman]

Well, I dunno how good is the fluidyne radiator is but I just got myself a nice aluminium Rad specificaly made for the 3G accord.... I dunno if you guys would want one.

[guaynabo89]

What kind of fans you guys running? brand part# etc.

[thegreatdane]

Well, I dunno how good is the fluidyne radiator is but I just got myself a nice aluminium Rad specificaly made for the 3G accord.... I dunno if you guys would want one.

Let's hear about it.

[YK86]

Damn, Yasu its been a long time! Hope everything is well with you and hows your b20a coming. Mine should have been running in october but a few issues came up.

Yeah, it's been a VERY long time LOL Mine's still sitting in the garage. I'm finding less and less time to work on cars as I get older. Oh well, that's life. I still need to find another 86 or 87 to redo everything on. Anyways, don't want to go off topic. I'll have to pm or email you sometime.