*edit* for my last post. Added more stuff. I hope you are not in the path of hurricane RITA bro. That could screw up plans for sure. Stay safe out there and God bless.
*edit* for my last post. Added more stuff. I hope you are not in the path of hurricane RITA bro. That could screw up plans for sure. Stay safe out there and God bless.
Why don't you just buy polyurethance inserts from Hasport instead of pouring them?
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Originally Posted by ICEMAN707
no I am to far north for that to hit me all we will get is a little cooler weather and hopefully some rain.
I honestly would sonsider buying those engine mounts... not for my Accord but maybe for another Accord
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Hey legend totally switching topics but, Rita was brought up. I hope you stay safe. I'm not to terribly worried about it but, as it get's closer to saturday. I live in Houston so it's a little more worriesom then for you. But good job on the mounts, way to take initative!
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Hey legend totally switching topics but, Rita was brought up. I hope you stay safe. I'm not to terribly worried about it but, as it get's closer to saturday. I live in Houston so it's a little more worriesom then for you. But good job on the mounts, way to take initative!
yea thanks man, you guys stay safe down there. Make sure to leave if the town gets evacuated and if you dont, stock up on lots of water and canned food to get you through at least a week.
well I sat down and talk with the CAD guy today and he told me that the plans could come out to be $100.00 to $200.00 they woudl all be computer generated and hard copies. He also told me the price to make the mounts would depend on how many sets we would need made. I will keep looking around for someone to do the scematics and see if there is a cheaper method. If not, I am sure we can work something out.
good job legendmaster. also, see if there are other rare parts you can make schematics off of like the dc sports strut bar. the other stuff like short shifter, fully adjustable front upper control arms, rear strut bar, big brake kit brackets, etc. have to be custom made. but once the schematics are made from those, all it takes is taking it to a CNC machine shop to have it done.
it would be so cool to have a little handbook of custom 3gee parts schematics we could buy and have so we could just pick from the book which part you want made at the CNC shop as we please. it would be like a 3gee bible.
i'm attempting to make a CAD design of my dc sports strut bar right now in the program to see how it works. i will post pics later.
Once we get the mounts worked out we can work on the other stuff. Basically we can have anything made that is made out of metal. Well I have a freind willing to invest in this motor mount design, but he wants to keep the blueprints to us and have the mounts made and sold to other people. I am not sure what is going to happen, but I and my friend will need alteast 3-5 confermed people wanting mounts, before I will invest in makeing the mount blueprints. Let me know what you guys think and Iceman and steve pm me I want to talk to you guys about this.
Off topic, but here is my CAD design for the rear strut bar:
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Last edited by ICEMAN707; 09-29-2005 at 08:54 PM.
No I have not put axles in yet...I believe that the Integra axles will fit in my lude...only cuz its the same width as the integra...and if they don't fit in the hub assemblies then I have my old lude ends so I will just switch them...
just curious. what are the weights of the a20a3, b18a/b/c, h22a/h23? thanks for those who replied. all i know is the H weighs 85 lbs more than the B, weighing around 370-400lbs depending on tranny. but how much does the a20 weigh?
also, any one got any updates on their swaps??
this is the cheapest and cleanest b18c GSR engine i've seen by far, too bad shipping will be a raping since it's located in japan and it takes a month or 2 to receive. but $1200 + +$600 shipping is still cheap for a GSR with super low miles:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
here's a 400hp built turbo b16a motor, yummmmmmmm:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Last edited by ICEMAN707; 10-03-2005 at 06:16 AM.
SORRY for going off topic and into H-series swaps, but here's the "big boy" h22a in a CRX/EF chassis:
....but i would be going for the bigger boy, the h23a in the Accord type R's in japan:
Last edited by ICEMAN707; 10-05-2005 at 01:54 AM.
now this is one fast honda! - just imagine that same exact setup (minus mounts and axles), but in a 3gee shell....
these red mounts are something i would need to make as well (custom tranny mount and weld in bracket for the tranny, and bracket for clutch cable - hydro tranny):
more pics here: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=613077
i also noticed something else, the front black bracket shown here can be replaced with a custom one that allows the h22a to sit on our stock a20 mount:
probably have to relocate the mount more towards the passenger side and tap holes into the front crossmember to bolt the mount back up. if not, you can modify the custom bracket instead, rather than move the mount. but i'm hoping the stock location of that mount is dead on for the h22a. cus from the looks of it, that bracket's location is the center of gravity for the h22a engine + tranny and our front a20 mount is exactly in the middle. as for the rear mount, the same can be done. the point is, keeping our existing mounts.
the driver's side mount? custom made. unless you wanna cut up the unibody bracket and weld in a wider piece to fit a stock h22a mount. whichever is easier for you.
axles? 4gee intermediate shaft and axles with 4gee inners/3gee outers (might have to take to a machine shop to cut and balance, but hopefully you dont have to). i would try stock 4gee axles first and go from there. hopefully the outers, its splines, match up with the 3gee hubs and the lengths are dead on. BUT on the other hand, i've read in honda-tech.com that some are making adapter plates to fit the shorter geared b-series trannies to the H22/23's. THEN you would have to use 2nd gen teg axles and repeat the same process. just imagine the torque of the h-series with a b-series type r gearbox
ok moving on...
wiring? complete lude or 4gee harness with p28 ecu chipped hondata or uberdata.
shift linkage? since h22's/h23's use cables instead of rods, all you need is a lude or 4gee shifter custom fitted in place of the 3gee's shifter.
anything else i forgot, you figure it out. but i think the only problem i see is the speedo since ours is cable run. but since i would redo my dash in fiberglass anyways, i can custom mold in a prelude or 4gee cluster to fix that problem.
Last edited by ICEMAN707; 10-05-2005 at 02:46 AM.
Iceman you got a link for that rex?? Is that a boosted H22?
yep, one mean biatch!
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=711900&page=15
here's another one:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=613077
and the best part is, these guys did it themselves. no h22a mount kit is yet out for sale for the crx. there are a couple in development by hasport and enjo, but those are still under development.
Last edited by ICEMAN707; 10-05-2005 at 02:35 AM.
i always wanted to put an h22 into my 3g i just never thought it past that, but ever since seeing a 3g with a b series i've been sold on the idea of having a b16a1, i'd pay more than 500 bucks for some mounts, has anyone found out more or is this idea pretty much gone? i'd really like to know.
oh the idea is there, lots of them in fact. and it can be done. it just takes a combination of time, skills, patience, and money. me, i got the skills, i can make the time, i have lots of patience, but i dont have the money (for now at least). that's all that's holding me back. i believe i've done alot of research into h22 crx swaps to feel confident enough to do the same thing to the 3gee. just gotta compensate for the mounts and axles. everything else involved in the crx h22 swap can be copied over to the 3gee.
i believe the a20 and h22 are about the same weight so we don't have that much of a weight distribution problem like the crx's. besides, the whole back of my car is gonna be filled with audio/video system components. that's gonna add alot of weight to the back and my weight distribution should be about even. hopefully not too much, but we'll see. if the swap does succeed, i would probably do it over again but this time in a hatch or coupe. now that one would have all the performance goodies....making it my street racer/weekend warrior and the sedan my show car/weekend cruiser...my 2 dream 3geez...best of both worlds.
Last edited by ICEMAN707; 10-05-2005 at 05:29 PM.
this whole thread is based on the idea that someone is taking the time and money to do some r&d and make a blueprint for 3g b-series mounts since hasport no longer makes them and won't share/sell theirs. so keep checking back and see what comes up.
i understand the idea is there, i've read this thread over and over, but the main people that were talking about haven't seemed to respond about it in like 2 weeks or so, i guess i'm just impatient
care to donate to the iceman jdm h23a swap fund??? i'd gladly finish this swap in time for christmas if everybody chips in....hehe
Last edited by ICEMAN707; 10-05-2005 at 09:45 PM.
i know you are kidding cus that's more than enough room for a forced induction setup....LOLas for that guy, not much hope in him cus he never finished it. where the hell did he go anyways?
Hey legend...wanna do me a favor and measure how long that linkage is???
Fuck that!
Like I said before though, if I had the time and a couple more bucks, I'd totally take the 3SGTE route.go BUY a 4th gen celi and its a direct swap, why spend all that money to put that ina honda?
3sgte in a 3g
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