Pacesetter : Intake , Short Shifter , Header , Cat Back Exhaust , High Flow Cat

**Hash_man_Se_i** · 08-10-2003, 12:17 PM

the 90 dollar Dynomax is a very nice muffler... and who ever buys your muffler is a bone head

Yes I know, thats their problem, not mine.

And subs have been sold .

**modu03** · 08-10-2003, 02:12 PM

yah know... I have the pacesetter exhaust, and i noticed a pretty good increase in power, especially in the higher rpm range... the pacesetter may not be the best design... but it is a hell of a lot better than the stock exhaust...

you spent $250 on the pacesetter system??? I only paid $160... you got ripped man!

**Hash_man_Se_i** · 08-10-2003, 03:31 PM

you spent $250 on the pacesetter system??? I only paid $160... you got ripped man!

Yes, and I paid $250. in Canadian dollars, and the exhaust retails for around #320 here, before tax, and my 250 is with tax.

But I really want to know, what can I do, to make it so it doesnt rust fast.

**4DoorAccordDX** · 08-11-2003, 07:45 AM

I'm not sure if the exhaust would need painting or not, but if you want to just in case and for your own peace of mind, get some high-temp BBQ paint. 1200* or higher. I bought a Pacesetter header about 2 months ago, had it sanblasted and put 1200* BBQ paint on there and so far have seen no signs of flaking or rust. Regular Rustoleum (spelling?) won't work because it is not designed for the extreme temperatures. The BBQ paint is good because it is specifically designed to withstand the temperature that your exhaust will reach, and it has a rust inhibitor (spelling?). Just go to a local home improvement store and they should have a few cans there. I put on about 4-5 coats. That may or may not be overkill, but so far it has done its job well. Hope that helps.

2-Knee

**Justin86** · 08-11-2003, 10:12 AM

I would do it just to be safe.

**Hash_man_Se_i** · 08-11-2003, 03:46 PM

Thanks.

**lightbulblxi** · 09-09-2003, 08:43 AM

about 2 weeks ago i got the pacesetter cat back on my car i bought it for about $180 an it took me about 3 hors to put on( mainly becase my stock nuts/bolts were so rusted) It sounds a little deeper than my sock exhaust at low rpm. Any suggestins what to do to make it sound more like a racing muffler
right now i am considering changing mufflers

**86AccordLxi** · 09-09-2003, 08:47 AM

That's your best bet...plus (esp where you live) the rust will eat up at least the tip of the pacesetter muffler within the next year or so (at least that's what happened to me). It seems like the majority of members here had the pacesetter muffler cut off and then had a new muffler of their choice welded back on the the pacesetter piping. That's what I did, and i'm very pleased with the sound (although keep in mind that a loud muffler can get annoying on long trips/drives).

Alex

**NXRacer** · 09-09-2003, 08:54 AM

I've riden in Alex's car and i agree that his sounds really good.

***Vinny*** · 09-09-2003, 08:55 AM

I agree with the changing muffler idea, from what I hear alot of people who buy pacesetters do that. I went the cheap route and just had a local shop do a cat back w/ 2 1/4" pipe and a turbo for a whopping 150. I know the whole mandrel bend vs reg bend theory but just can't see the total cost (180 for a pacesetter then add to that to change the muffler) as a good option

**86AccordLxi** · 09-09-2003, 08:57 AM

Doing it over again, I would have a shop run the piping rather than buying the pacesetter, but at the time, I didn't know any better. I also only paid 150 for my pacesetter so that was good.

NX: I'm glad you like it !

Alex

***Vinny*** · 09-09-2003, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by 86AccordLxi
NX: I'm glad you like it !

Alex

Well said, thats whats important. As long as you like it who cares what we think :lol :lol

**86AccordLxi** · 09-09-2003, 09:12 AM

I was nervous putting it on though, wasn't sure how it was going to sound. Considering bought it online (from NOPI) I had never heard the exhaust before. I got lucky

Alex

**Justin86** · 09-09-2003, 09:13 AM

Try cutting off the muffler for a while and see how you like it. Then put on another muffler if you want.

**NXRacer** · 09-09-2003, 09:13 AM

my exhaust is 2 1/4 cat back straight pipe to the back with a resonator. Sounds like it would sound terrible, but it sounds pretty good. A lot of people have told me its one of the best sounding exhausts they've heard (and they weren't ricers either). I guess i got lucky. I'm sure that if i were to punch out my cat it would be WAY too loud.

**86AccordLxi** · 09-09-2003, 09:17 AM

I want to take my cat out but really don't want it to be super-loud (it's loud enough right now). Could I just put a resonator or something in place of the cat to keep the same noise level?

Alex

**Justin86** · 09-09-2003, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by NXRacer
my exhaust is 2 1/4 cat back straight pipe to the back with a resonator. Sounds like it would sound terrible, but it sounds pretty good. A lot of people have told me its one of the best sounding exhausts they've heard (and they weren't ricers either). I guess i got lucky. I'm sure that if i were to punch out my cat it would be WAY too loud.

Yea I got 2.25" from the header back with a flomaster 40 series and 3.5" tip. It is not as deep as with no muffler but is louder they how I had it before I got full exhaust.

**Bloodlust** · 09-09-2003, 09:27 AM

I was going to get myself a Pacesetter Cat-back Exhaust but I was told that they suck sweaty goat nipples (I believe those were the exact words.) Has this changed or what? I really want to get one but I dont feel like paying like 650 for a DC Sports system. Any input?

**86AccordLxi** · 09-09-2003, 09:28 AM

As mentioned many other times on this board, it's better to find a muffler you like and then take it to a muffler shop and have them weld you up 2.25 inch piping from the cat back. Pacesetter quality is still not great.

Alex

**NXRacer** · 09-09-2003, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by 86AccordLxi
I want to take my cat out but really don't want it to be super-loud (it's loud enough right now). Could I just put a resonator or something in place of the cat to keep the same noise level?

Alex

I think a good quality glass pack (resonator) would help curb the noise. When i put in my new motor, i'm gonna punch out the cat so i'll know for sure how loud it is with a true straight pipe.

***Vinny*** · 09-09-2003, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Justin86
Yea I got 2.25" from the header back with a flomaster 40 series and 3.5" tip. It is not as deep as with no muffler but is louder they how I had it before I got full exhaust.

maybe I'm confised but an exhaust system without a muffler is just ass out loud(I know mine was rusted off when I bought the car) but its not deep. The way a muffler resonates is what determines the sound. Turbos are louder than a stock muffler and deeper because of the way they are designed. Thats why the straight mufflers like gibson superflows and such are so much louder, they work like a megaphone, exhaust noise goes straight in and straight out(the bumblebee in a tin can sound), as opposed to a conventionl design where it resonates throught chambers inside the muffler. Hers some useful info about muffler from a truck site but they did test on quite a few. let me know if this helps anyone http://members.tripod.com/~racetruck/muffler.html

**Justin86** · 09-09-2003, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by My Cousin Vinny
maybe I'm confised but an exhaust system without a muffler is just ass out loud(I know mine was rusted off when I bought the car) but its not deep. The way a muffler resonates is what determines the sound. Turbos are louder than a stock muffler and deeper because of the way they are designed. Thats why the straight mufflers like gibson superflows and such are so much louder, they work like a megaphone, exhaust noise goes straight in and straight out(the bumblebee in a tin can sound), as opposed to a conventionl design where it resonates throught chambers inside the muffler. Hers some useful info about muffler from a truck site but they did test on quite a few. let me know if this helps anyone http://members.tripod.com/~racetruck/muffler.html

When I still had stock piping I had no muffler and a gutted cat with headers. It wasen't extremely loud like some of those high pitched fart can. It had a loud deap tone to it. I got more respect with that then what I currently have. Mostly cause there is a rattle and it sounds like shit.

**86AccordLxi** · 09-10-2003, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by 86AccordLxi
I want to take my cat out but really don't want it to be super-loud (it's loud enough right now). Could I just put a resonator or something in place of the cat to keep the same noise level?

Alex

Bump so someone will answer my question.

Alex

**NXRacer** · 09-10-2003, 08:39 AM

hey alex, i did already.

**86AccordLxi** · 09-10-2003, 08:49 AM

Hahah..i'm blind...thanks!

Alex

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