hi guys, can someone take a look at this pic and possibly tell me why im getting bad vibration when idling and just in general? it definitely feels like an engine mount, and the engine is clearly tilted in the pic, anyone know which mount is bad so i know ahead of time so i can get the right one? my 88 never idled bad at all and it was an lx-i like this, both 5-spds too. this ones an 87. thanks!
-Ryan
-'87 light blue lx-i 5-spd
220,000 miles and still goin...
holy crap thats one hell of a dirty bay.
Do you really need 2 alarm sirens?
from the slope I'd say its one of the tranny mounts.... if you had pics of each mount that would help.
So far I haven't done any 3G mounts, but they usually break out around the center of the rubber
maybe all of that dirt was too heavy for the mounts!
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first off it seems ur engine is about to fall off and get runned over second u need 2 clean the engine to see what u working wit. the vibration could b either an engine mount or just poor maintnence for example = bad plugs,bad cap&rotor, bad fuel mixture, but form da pic it might b your engine mount. thats my opinion. but i aint no mechanic..
looks like your front motor mount by the radiator is broke and your driver side mount is boke or braking.
Nothin' 2 Old Racing
looks like your bottom mount and front and or rear tranny mount are either not there or fuxored...
429whp 362wtq A20 TURBO. A20T>*
i'm thinking the bottom mount, too. if it's been like that for a while the rear mount will be tearing and maybe the side as well.
Originally Posted by Justanothermike
my A20 is not SLOW. ur A20 is slow.
lol yea i know its a bit dirty i just got the car yesterday and havent cleaned it up yetbut i definitely know its the mounts, you think its multiple mounts and not just one? also, anyone have a pic or diagram of where all the mounts are located so it would beasier to find and diagnose the bad mount? thanks for all the quick replies!
Last edited by hootymo; 01-25-2005 at 11:07 PM.
-Ryan
-'87 light blue lx-i 5-spd
220,000 miles and still goin...
do you have Pauls manual yet? Download it here: http://www.pauldesign.ru/honda/shopmanual.html
get the PDF one....(86) and look at pgs 5-8/5-9
The zipped pictures are the same
here is a part diagram from majestic:
you'll probably need to replace one or all of #3,#8,& #2
You can attempt to fix #3 and #8 using this idea:
https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=40574
But #2 I'd buy new.. I beleive that one is oil filled
Last edited by BlueBead; 01-26-2005 at 12:04 AM.
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And the stupid people are breeding......
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Dang I just checked my front mount by the radiator and the nut was loose.
- llia
yea i have pauls manual, but couldnt find much of anything about the engine mounts. this looks good though, now being such a compact engine bay like we have in our cars, how easy are these to get to? cuz i have very limited tools and definitely dont have an engine hoist or anything, so i can imagine this might be a bit of a challenge for me. also its pretty cold out there so i dont want to be outside longer than i have to. thanks!
Last edited by hootymo; 01-26-2005 at 12:31 AM.
-Ryan
-'87 light blue lx-i 5-spd
220,000 miles and still goin...
looks funky, never seen a mount brake before, i have seen them cracked and the rubber braking in your hands after doing a motor swap but never with the motor still in the bay. i bet that motor bounces all over the place when you try to drive it, every shift a big culunk.
actually shifts fairly well, a little rough but not bad. ive never seen anything like that before either... should i be worried its something worse?
-Ryan
-'87 light blue lx-i 5-spd
220,000 miles and still goin...
You'd need a jack and jack stands... the more the merrier.
basicly you lift the engine so it's no longer putting weight on the mount you're replacing then replace the mount one at a time... you probably only have one broken mount but the others might not be in good shape if you've been drivng around like that for a while...
I actually like the car ramps that you drive up onto so you can change the oil... I'd use tose then lift up the motor and place the jack stand under the motor in a few places to hold it steady...
the car ramps are usually about $30 jack stands are fairly cheap too.
When I replaced my motor I had to use jack strands cause I needed to remove the axles. so I couldn't use the tires to support the car any more.
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Last edited by A20A1; 01-26-2005 at 01:02 AM.
- llia
Just don't go under the car with a jack as the only thing supporting the weight... jacks can slide or tilt and then whatever it is supporting may fall on you. So you need stands.
- llia
Originally Posted by A20A1
You'd need a jack and jack stands... the more the merrier.
basicly you lift the engine so it's no longer putting weight on the mount you're replacing then replace the mount one at a time... you probably only have one broken mount but the others might not be in good shape if you've been drivng around like that for a while...
I actually like the car ramps that you drive up onto so you can change the oil... I'd use tose then lift up the motor and place the jack stand under the motor in a few places to hold it steady...
the car ramps are usually about $30 jack stands are fairly cheap too.
When I replaced my motor I had to use jack strands cause I needed to remove the axles. so I couldn't use the tires to support the car any more.
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dude that pick looks like a widowmaker!
i would try to use jackstands on the frame and rent or barow a cherry picker
Widowmaker?
- llia
killer.. ie gonna fall on yo head
The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard;
And the stupid people are breeding......
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the car looks a little slanted and looks like it might fall, smashing the person under it. It just don't look safe to me.
Widow, A woman whose husband has died.---widower
so you have a widowmaker
damit, you beat me to it!
cool i have a set of ramps and jackstands, that sounds like a good idea. i will have to be careful too when jacking up the engine that i dont dent the oil pan, ill put a piece of wood in there to protect it. thanks for all the help guys! now i just have to un-bury my parts car out of the snow to take the mount off that one and go to it.
-Ryan
-'87 light blue lx-i 5-spd
220,000 miles and still goin...
lol, no way I'm so clostraphopic under cars.... I jumped around and pushed on the car just to make sure it wouldn't fall... it just looks odd cause the whole driveway is slanted... which is why my engine rolled down the driveway when I put it on the cherrypicker. Someone has a quote I made of that incident in theri sig.
- llia
i have to agree. your front mount is shot.
replace the front mount and rear mount at the same time to make sure that this problem won't happen again.
Alex.
hey if you replace more than one mount it might be worth it to re-torque all of the mounts. honda has a very specific sequence for tightening the mounts to give the best overall bushing alignment and vibration damping.
there is a diagram in the shop manual that shows the order. it's in the, uhhhhhh...'89 supplement i think.
Originally Posted by Justanothermike
my A20 is not SLOW. ur A20 is slow.
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